Civilization Leader Pass: New DLC most likely coming!

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Interestingly enough, 7 out of those 13 Leaders:
  • Abraham Lincoln (United States)
  • Ramses II (Egypt)
  • Elizabeth I (England)
  • Leyasu Tokugawa (Japan)
  • Wu Zetian (China)
  • Julius Caesar (Rome)
  • Theodora (Byzantium)
Are all Civ staple Leaders that were at least in 1 of the previous Titles. So, perhaps the "30th Civ Anniversary" Surprise is a Leader Pass that contains 50% of old Leaders and 50% new ones (something new is always necessary).
 
I broke it in a different manner. That list contains:

9 Leaders from Vanilla Civ
1 Leader from First DLC Season
1 Leader from Gods and Kings
1 Leader from Gathering Storm
1 Leader from NFP

I actually think this breakdown makes it look like a sensible list. There's one leader from each Expansion/DLC Pass. They'd be able to measure how well the packs which are dependent on previous DLC do.
 
Interestingly enough, 7 out of those 13 Leaders:
  • Abraham Lincoln (United States)
  • Ramses II (Egypt)
  • Elizabeth I (England)
  • Leyasu Tokugawa (Japan)
  • Wu Zetian (China)
  • Julius Caesar (Rome)
  • Theodora (Byzantium)
Are all Civ staple Leaders that were at least in 1 of the previous Titles. So, perhaps the "30th Civ Anniversary" Surprise is a Leader Pass that contains 50% of old Leaders and 50% new ones (something new is always necessary).
Yi Do has been in previously as Sejong.
 
That would make the ratio 60/40%. 🤔
 
The "prediction" in #124 of this thread is the content of the leak. Link: https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...ost-likely-coming.680355/page-7#post-16363571

The first four leaders of that leak are exactly the same as the leaders in the preview figure this time.

Except that Nader Shah was not clearly revealed. The original leak only points to a Persian leader entitled "Shah of Shah" and was born as a slave
Interesting, I feel like if this is accurate then each leader might address some complaint that many had about that particular civilization:
Nader Shah for a non Achaemenid Persia is a no-brainer as well as a second leader for Rome and Japan.
Lincoln and Elizabeth are popular enough as is Ana Nzinga as a newcomer for Kongo.
Ludwig II would make Germany more cultural and not so heavily focused on military as it has all the previous iterations, including this one.
Mali getting Sundiata Keita is strange, but I guess for some it might make them more like Songhai was in Civ 5?
Sejong returning is popular, but not sure how different he'll play from Seondeock.
Maybe they'll rework Byzantium because right now it solely plays like a crusader civ and not as appropriate for Theodora.
China getting two leaders is funny, but people loved Wu Zetian and we've yet to see one from the Ming Dynasty? :dunno:
 
I broke it in a different manner. That list contains:

9 Leaders from Vanilla Civ
1 Leader from First DLC Season
1 Leader from Gods and Kings
1 Leader from Gathering Storm
1 Leader from NFP

I actually think this breakdown makes it look like a sensible list. There's one leader from each Expansion/DLC Pass. They'd be able to measure how well the packs which are dependent on previous DLC do.
RIse and Fall, Gods and Kings was from Civ 5 :P
 
China getting two leaders is funny, but people loved Wu Zetian and we've yet to see one from the Ming Dynasty?

Well, I can't complain about Yongle, I've always wanted a Ming Dynasty Emperor in the game. I'd be happy if he were confirmed.
 
Well, I can't complain about Yongle, I've always wanted a Ming Dynasty Emperor in the game. I'd be happy if he were confirmed.
Curious as to what they would do with him considering Qin has the wonder building and early canals. I mean faster construction of Medieval and Renaissance wonders is already taken by France. Or maybe he'll become the exploration leader we've been waiting for? :lol:
 
Curious as to what they would do with him considering Qin has the wonder building and early canals. I mean faster construction of Medieval and Renaissance wonders is already taken by France. Or maybe he'll become the exploration leader we've been waiting for? :lol:
He could be a science-oriented leader, based on the legendary encyclopedia he commissioned.
 
Curious as to what they would do with him considering Qin has the wonder building and early canals. I mean faster construction of Medieval and Renaissance wonders is already taken by France. Or maybe he'll become the exploration leader we've been waiting for? :lol:

I'm surprised they just don't give us Isabella redux if they are going exploration as she was pretty popular.
 
A second consideration which I think makes that list feasible: All the leaders are peculiar looking. The designers have gone to great lengths to make every leader pretty unique-looking so far. The only one in that list which may be too similar to something already in existence is Julius Caesar. Caesar's facial features are not too dissimilar to Trajan in most portrayals. So if we get Caesar, there's a big chance he won't be wearing armour (but probably will be wearing laurels because fancy headwear is fancy).

Anyway, here's all of them (excluding Keita because couldn't find much):
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As you can see, there's a lot of fancy headwear and hairstyles, making them distinct looking.
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A side consideration: I think the chances of Wu Zetian are really high, even if the list isn't true. But since we got a young Victoria in Civ 6 (vs old in Civ 4), we may get an old Wu Zetian in Civ 6 (vs young in Civ 5). Atm there's no representation in Civ 6 for that demographic.

Even if the leak is real, I hope it is dated and we get Isabella or somebody else rather than two Chinese leaders, just for the sake of variety. Zhu Di has the yellow robes of Kublai Khan and the headwear/facial hair is pretty similar to Sejong.
 
A second consideration which I think makes that list feasible: All the leaders are peculiar looking. The designers have gone to great lengths to make every leader pretty unique-looking so far. The only one in that list which may be too similar to something already in existence is Julius Caesar. Caesar's facial features are not too dissimilar to Trajan in most portrayals. So if we get Caesar, there's a big chance he won't be wearing armour (but probably will be wearing laurels because fancy headwear is fancy).
I imagine him wearing a toga, with the laurels on his head, and being depicted in the Roman Senate chamber for the background.
 
Getting a king of Bavaria as a new leader for Germany... feels like a whole new angle of the disaster of Dirndl, Lederhosen and Oktoberfest representing the whole of Germany. :p



Though I guess a fitting pick for the whole "great personalities"-spiel... :D
 
Some more details from this link: https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv19525209?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0

Note that the source was published in 2022-11-03, a week earlier than today.

1. Late Oct. was the planned release day (probably release the preview, not the DLC itself). But it changed to mid Nov. now due to unfinished work.

2. Contain not only new leaders, but also new content and new game mode.

3. Will last for ~6 month. Probably 2 DLCs each time, 6 DLCs in total.

4. Zhu Di is a leader for a new game mode (or scenario?). Wu Zetian is the new Chinese leader for regular game mode. (Makes much more sense)

xxhe
 
Getting a king of Bavaria as a new leader for Germany... feels like a whole new angle of the disaster of Dirndl, Lederhosen and Oktoberfest representing the whole of Germany. :p



Though I guess a fitting pick for the whole "great personalities"-spiel... :D
I think Ludwig would be amazing. The dude was a bit nuts and lavishly spent money on castles and palaces all over Bavaria. Spend money to complete wonders?
 
I think Ludwig would be amazing. The dude was a bit nuts and lavishly spent money on castles and palaces all over Bavaria. Spend money to complete wonders?
I was thinking a more culture-oriented Germany. This feels like it would be a way of giving me Austria, without giving me Austria. :crazyeye:
But wonder building would go hand in hand with culture Germany too considering the production bonuses from the Hansa would already be in place.
 
I wonder if this "leak" isn't just a "wish list" someone posted after getting an early look at the same 4-leader image we all saw yesterday?

Hard to say without context of the actual post, but the content of the leak itself seems dubious to me.
 
I wonder if this "leak" isn't just a "wish list" someone posted after getting an early look at the same 4-leader image we all saw yesterday?

Hard to say without context of the actual post, but the content of the leak itself seems dubious to me.
@xxhe posted a link to the Chinese site a few posts ago. It dates from a week ago

Edit: According to that source, there are 2 DLCs and the pass will last for six months. I suppose that means (2) six packs with scenarios, modes, and whatever, six months apart.
 
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Predict:
Abraham Lincoln (United States)
Ramses II (Egypt)
Nzinga Mbande (Kongo)
Elizabeth I (England)
Ieyasu Tokugawa (Japan)
Ludwig II (Germany)
Nader Shah (Persia)
Wu Zetian (China)
Zhu Di (China)
Julius Caesar (Rome)
Sundiata Keita (Mali)
Theodora (Byzantium)
Yi Do (Korea)
so LPJ really stands for Leader Pass Japan, so whats LPGN Leader Pass Germany? But what would the N be?
 
Nader Shah and Ludwig II are left-field but interesting choices. Everyone else is either a returning leader or a fairly obvious choice. I’m surprised there will be so many leaders, but as long as they’re interestingly different from the current roster, I’m excited!
 
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