Civilizations

[joelwest]

We definitely don't have to. What's a good number? Do we need multiple leaders/civ?

this question cannot be answered until the number of civ traits and charters is finalized. that in turn will depend on the number of eras and the final tech tree.

it would be my own preference that each combo of the above be available for use in the game.

vanilla civ has the luxury of projecting a fit of civ traits onto the historical's figure personality. in our case all the leaders are fictional so we would only rule a set of civ traits with a charter that was too powerful.

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what follows is a calc regarding max number of civs given total number of civ traits
and number of civ traits each civ posseses -

Spoiler :

assume each civ is given two civ traits.

with 4 civ traits this would mean (4 x 3) / 2 (civ trait order is not unique) or 6 different possible civs.

with 5 civ traits this would mean (5 x 4) / 2 or 10 different possible civs.

with 6 civ traits this would mean (6 x 5) / 2 or 15 different possible civs.

6 civ traits would yield 15 x 3 or 60 civs if the current three charters are kept. this is a very good argument that we ned to make the charters (first column of civics screen) user selectable to avoid having to create so many unique civs.

it we decided to give each civ three traits

with 4 civ traits this would mean (4 x 3 x 2) / (3 x 2) (civ trait order is not unique) or 4 different possible civs.

with 5 civ traits this would mean (5 x 4 x 3) / (3 x 2) or 10 different possible civs.

with 6 civ traits this would mean (6 x 5 x 4) / (3 x 2) or 20 different possible civs.

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so if we know how many civs we want, this would imply total number of
civ traits and how many traits each civ gets.

do we want 4, 6, 10 (two different ways), 15, or 20 total possible civs?

according to the chart of civs you gave in a previous post we currently have 11
leaders. if we only want 10 leaders, do we have 5 total civ traits and give each
civ two of them or three of them (the choice is symmetric as it turns out)?

 

[woodelf]

For this finished version of 0.23A I was thinking about 10 civs max.

 

[GeoModder]

Sounds enough.
Since the emergency civics seems to be the most broken, I supposed this column has to go?

 

[frenchman]

Sounds enough.
Since the emergency civics seems to be the most broken, I supposed this column has to go?

I have added an asian (japanese ?) businesswoman ...

 

[woodelf]

Thanks frenchman!

Geo - I hope those emergency civics aren't imbedded in python. Belizan added those at the end as well.

 

[woodelf]

I have added an asian (japanese ?) businesswoman ...

She's smokin hot! Super work.

 

[GeoModder]

I have added an asian (japanese ?) businesswoman ...

Oh yeah, more of those and we'll have heaps of SotM groupies on our doorstep!

Geo - I hope those emergency civics aren't imbedded in python. Belizan added those at the end as well.

Well, if that is the case we will simply have to weed it out.
Don't worry, we'll get there.

 

[woodelf]

Can we agree on 10 corporations or civs to be included in the fixed 0.23A version? One Leader per civ is fine and more than 10 civs is overkill IMO.

 

[GeoModder]

Of course.

 

[woodelf]

What sort of breakdown? Four space agencies and then three each of businesses and other? That seems good to me.

 

[GeoModder]

Yeah, in this scenario the so-called independent moon civs are redundant, save for a single one perhaps.

 

[woodelf]

I've pared it down to five space agencies, four business, and three others. Now I'm going to attach some of frenchman's LHs to them.

 

[woodelf]

LHs still needed:

For space agencies: A Japanese, French, Middle Eastern, and Indian.

For a businessman: an African.

For other: A German and a Russian.

Thanks frenchman. The others look terrific and help the game a ton!

 

[darkedone02]

The Leaderheads need to be an artwork since we don't have any access points where we can change the animations of our leaders without burrowing a leaderhead movement. We need advance decorations so that we have a leaders that don't look so bulky and low-ended.

 

[woodelf]

Check out frenchman's library darkedone02. I like his style and they look cool in game.

 

[frenchman]

Check out frenchman's library darkedone02. I like his style and they look cool in game.

Hello Woodelf,

One new leader (african businessman) added.

Could we make a status of the civilizations and the current leaders you have choosen in order I have a clear vision of the remaining ones...

 

[woodelf]

Thanks frenchman!

Updated list:

For space agencies: A Japanese, French, Middle Eastern, and Indian.

For other: A German and a Russian.

Thanks frenchman. The others look terrific and help the game a ton!

 

[frenchman]

Thanks frenchman!

Updated list:

For space agencies: A Japanese, French, Middle Eastern, and Indian.

For other: A German and a Russian.

Thanks frenchman. The others look terrific and help the game a ton!

One Space agency added : I called Her Valérie Dupré for French ?...

 

[woodelf]

Awesome. Five to go!

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Are any of the civs religious idealists, looking for a fresh start on the moon, away from the corruptions of the baser world?