If we have Britan, then why not add Germany (just as strong)? If we have Germany, why not Italy, France, and Spain. If we divide Western Europe, then there are going to be too many civs. I don't think that NATO should be a civ, its just an organization.
Because Germany and France and the rest of Western Europe, act as one a lot of the time, however Britain can on key issues, differ in its approach and attiude to the situation.
However an alternative to Britain being seperate, would be to have Britain join up with the Aussies and New Zealand as we still share many strong ties, plus our foregin policy has been quite similar and our miltary has always worked together in training and in combat and in the event of a major war it would be likely that British, Austrailan and New Zealand troops would be under a combined commonwealth command structure.
We also have similar in culture to them, arguably more than any country other than the USA. So if Britain had to be within another state, then it could be part of the commonwealth. It would still have a alliance with Europe, through NATO, just it wouldn't be a central part of the EU, which let's be honest we are not really. We don't have the euro and we have several opt outs in the various treaties. So out of all the nations in the EU, certainly the major ones, Britain is the most different, from culture to money policy and basically everything else.
Then lets reach a compromise. Lets not have more than 30 civs to make the game not too slow. We have 28 no. Since people want to add both koreas and Taiwan, lets decide what civ we want to take away so we have exactly 30. My list is in post 46.Korea and Taiwan both are sizzling volcanoes. If one day we have a direct conflict between the two superpowers USA and China then it will be most probably because of one of these hot spots. North Korea is a nuclear power, member of the "Axis of Evil" and thus claimed to be one of the major threats to USA. Erasing Korea and Taiwan would mean to erase two of the three hot spots that could trigger a major war.
I neither want to have a single "European" civ and I am not happy at all about that NATO civ. I would prefer to have Europe divided into EU (with all actual members), Russia (including Belarus, Ukraine and Serbia), Turkey and a neutral civ (Switzerland, Iceland, Norway...). But since none of the suggested compromises was widely accepted (my one included) I still am with the first list.
I neither want to have a single "European" civ and I am not happy at all about that NATO civ. I would prefer to have Europe divided into EU (with all actual members), Russia (including Belarus, Ukraine and Serbia), Turkey and a neutral civ (Switzerland, Iceland, Norway...). But since none of the suggested compromises was widely accepted (my one included) I still am with the first list.
I don't think we've done the "combined commonwealth structure" thing since the disasters of World War 1.
The problem would be that the EU would be too strong. Russia should still control its own territory and no more or it will be too strong. How about we take all of the Balkans and make it a civ, since most of the Balkans are not EU. Also many people want the UK be a separate civ. The EU would still be too strong. Then we would have the EU (without the Balkans and UK), Balkans, UK, and Russia in Europe. Instead of Western Europe, Eastern Europe, UK, Balkans, and Russia. Then we could add the 2 koreas and Taiwan to make exactly 30.
Does everyone agree on everything except Europe:
United States of America
Canada
Mexico
Colombia
Venezuela
Brazil
Argentina
Egypt
Nigeria
Democratic republic of the Congo
South Africa
Ethiopia
Russia
Turkey
Israel
Saudi Arabia
Kazakhstan
Iran
Pakistan
India
Indonesia
China
Japan
Australia
Taiwan
North Korea
South Korea
That makes 27 civs.
Does everyone agree on everything except Europe:
United States of America
Canada
Mexico
Colombia
Venezuela
Brazil
Argentina
Egypt
Nigeria
Democratic republic of the Congo
South Africa
Ethiopia
Russia
Turkey
Israel
Saudi Arabia
Kazakhstan
Iran
Pakistan
India
Indonesia
China
Japan
Australia
Taiwan
North Korea
South Korea
That makes 27 civs.
To divide that huge African continent between 5 civs would probably make some of them too powerful.