Civs that should be in an expansion

[mitsho]

So what would the EU capital be?

Are you serious? I am not at all for an EU-civ (that just wouldn't make sense and I think it also wasn't meant really serious, just the last option that came to his or her mind).
But the capital of the EU is Bruxelles/Brüssel or whatever you may call it. That would be the easiest question to answer...

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[AnsarWarrior]

My votes goes to Ottomans, Babylon and The Dutch, and yes its shame not to see the US in the game.

 

[XGustaX]

Yeah i am sorry but EU wouldnt make sense to me either. Europe has traditionally been very divived and each country likes doesnt share the notion of "LETS ALL JOIN TOGETHER AND BECOME ONE BIG COUNTRY!" no

 

[Billy Rubin]

Israel would be a nice addition, given its impact on world history (in one form or another).

I allready modded my game so Israel is in.
Well - not really modded it too much - mainly I changed the US to become Israel, since I don't regard the US is a civilization of it's own - same goes for Argentinia, Australia, Brasil etc..., so I personally don't need them in the game.

I'd love to see Korea, Polynesians, Ethiopia and the Zulu for instance, but new civs are not what what I'm too interested in regarding the expansion.
Given how easy it is to add new civs, that's something modders can do faster - I hope firaxis focusses on different aspects, like more options in diplomacy and the likes...

 

[XGustaX]

thats fair if u dont see them as them i could see ur point cuz all of them were just colonies lol. Yeah Israel would be a great addtion ! It is imporant to world history.

 

[slothman]

Erik the Red, Leif, would be obvious leaders.

They are even father and son.
At least Gengis and Kubalai were only uncle and nephew.
At least I think.

 

[Xineoph]

Israel of course.

Even though they were only a civilization in the Ancient and Modern eras, they have still brought so many things....i cannot think of another culture that has endured so much, yet contributed so much as well.

The closest thing i can think of is the Kurds actually...

Still Israel is a civ that should definitely be put in the expansion.

 

[Reiner]

Still Israel is a civ that should definitely be put in the expansion.

only one jewish civilization is enough, usa is already in

 

[BorgeoisBuffoon]

Reiner's just a silly troll guys, ignore him.

 

[Fredric Drum]

I think there's a difference between a nation and a civ. What has Mexico done for the world? They haven't been doing very well. Are tacos reason enough to include them in Civilization? The Aztecs on the other hand, are civ-worthy, but they are not Mexicans.

 

[Venger]

They are even father and son.
At least Gengis and Kubalai were only uncle and nephew.
At least I think.

Really? Leif is Erik's Son

Venger
P.S. I NEVER use those little faces, but didn't want there to be any confusion as to the point...
P.S.2. Aw, busted by the man for trolling on the Argentina thread...I thought it was good sardonic humor...

 

[Roland Ehnström]

Yeah, but everyone recognizes them as the Vikings.

So you mean all scandinavians are vikings, or what? I'm confused!

They have a football team and everything!

The Mighty Ducks have a hockey team, but that doesn't mean we should rename America to The Mighty Ducks.

Erik the Red, Leif, would be obvious leaders. I bet they are in...

If you call the civ Scandinavia instead, there could be one leader from the Viking age and one more modern leader, like King Gustav II Adolf (Gustavus Adolphus).

The point I'm trying to make is that the age of the Vikings only lasted for a couple hundred years, while there has been a Scandinavian "civ" for at least 10,000 years.

-- Roland

 

[Roland Ehnström]

I'd like these civs in an expansion:

Polynesia
Korea
Maya
Scandinavia
Babylon
Ottomans
Ethiopia
Zulu

And second leaders for all civs. Pericles, Ramesses II, Caesar Augustus, Xerxes, Abu Bakr, etc.

-- Roland

 

[ComradeDavo]

From the poll I vote....

Babylon
Byzantines
Carthaginians
Celts
Dutch
Korea
Maya
Ottomans
Portugese
Sumerians
Vikings
Zulu

I also think Poland and Austria should be in as well.

Basically, the more the better

 

[Bluetooth]

I missed that it was a multiple choice poll so I only voted for the Vikings. I would love to see Babylon and Ottomans as well and why not Carthage.

 

[Dowser]

About as much logic as having an "American" civilization that covers all peoples in north and south America as having the Celts or even the EU.

The EU is a political concept and isn't even a cultural grouping (European would be that) but even allowing for that what has Iceland and Greece got in common - to take but two examples.

In the case of the Celts, they stopped being a unified civilization over a thousand years ago and instead split into the likes of the Welsh (mixing in with the native Britonic peoples), the Irish (mixing in with the natives of Ireland), the Scots (mixing in with the native Pictish peoples) as well as the Cornish, the Bretons and even according to some historians Sardinians!

Personally I'd like to see the Scots as a seperate civilization as despite being a small country and (sadly) for the moment not independent their contribution to the history of the developed world is far in excess of their size.

Indeed were it not for Alexander Graham Bell inventing the telephone, John Logie Baird the television and Sir Thomas Glover introducing modern industrial practises into Japan at the start of the 20th century - none of this thread would have probably been written!

More famous Scots can be found at: http://www.rampantscotland.com/famous/famous.htm

Slaintè

Ewan

 

[Gr3yL3gion]

Babylon
Carthage
Dutch
Portuguese
Korean
Mayan
Ottimans
Sumerians
Vikings
Zulu
Ethopia
Other:Khmer, Siam, Native Americans, Polynesians, Malaccans

 

[mitsho]

Well, ok, let's get at it logically:
1) We have to look at new leaders, not civs, because
2) atm, we have 8 traits = 28 combinations, 2 unused. 1 new trait would open up the possibilities for 8 new combinations. A second new trait would open up 9 new possibilities. So, we'll have somewhere between 8 and 19 new leaders.
3) I doubt that they will double traits and that they give us 19 new combinations (which would essentially double the combos!). Also, it's quite difficult to find two new DIFFERENT and BALANCED traits (suggestions welcome!). That said, I wouldn't bet on any more than 12 new combos.
4)There are some civs who definately need a second leader: Rome, Egypt and Greece. There might also be thoughts of giving Japan, etc. a new leader and also to some new civs. Let's therefore assume that 5 civs get a second leader. 12 - 5 = 7 new civs (with unique units, etc. ... )
5)Most of you have given much more than 7 civ suggestion, so we need to see first the absolute essential:
Korea: Simply put, there are just too many Koreans playing computer games to ignore this civ!
Ottomans[/b]: A bit less wanted than Korea, but still a must.
Mesopotamia/Babylon/Assyria: Just look at the many threads that popped up in this forum
Other strong contenders are: Carthage/Phoenicia (first civ-mod for civIV!), the Hebrews (popular, judaism!), Khmer/Siam/... (South Asia), Scandinavia (Vikings if you wish) and all the others listed in that thread.
6)Got it. After the Vikings, we've already reached our limit! But here still are my personal favourites: Poland, Shapur II (for Persia), ...

mitsho

 

[CVDon]

Since the current American culture is an outgrowth of England, I would like to see "American" modified, not eliminated. The American leader should be Powhattan.

Start with hunting, fishing (like the Greeks).
Leader traits: Spiritual, aggressive (like Montezuma).
NO HORSES anywhere near their starting location.
Favored civic would be representation.
UU would be woodland scout (as scout but 1 hammer to build).

(Note: I am an American living in Virginia. This is not an anti-American sentiment.)

 

[Saad]

The last major empire completely ignored are the Mughals. They dominated India from 1500 till the arrival of the British. Civ IV finally acknoledges their cultural contribution with the Taj Mahal, but they forget that Muslim India needs to be represented. The easy mod would be to add a third leader to India, but this makes little of there contribution to the world and the big differences between them and the Hindu leaders represented in Civ IVs India civilization. There unique unit should be a very mobile canon, reminiscent of how they out manouvered the huge standing armies in India.