Congress isn't doing their job!

[LordRahl]

I wasn't playing to win. I was taking a playful swing at the OP and then noticed a follow-up punching bag.

But since you want to extend this silly exercise into objectivity (with silly being that Congress has anything to do with the airlines quarterly results), let's take a look at your pendulum effect. Since the Republicans controlled the House for 12 years (and the Senate for most of those 12 years) , for your pendulum effect to make sense (in your "objective" Democrats = socialists = airlines go bankrupt/Republicans = capitalists = airlines are profitable dichotamy), then we would have to believe that a Republican Congress had no influence on the pendulum for over a decade (thus absorbing the Delta bankruptcy on their watch), then suddenly had such an effect on the pendulum, that Delta's newfound profitability is attributable to them.

I can keep going and claim that it took 12 years to complete the swing from all the Socialist damage done before... Regardless - any thoughts on how did the 180 people that died in Brazil liked their government controlled airline? Slow acting bureaucracy has a curious way of killing people through inaction...

 

[JollyRoger]

I can keep going and claim that it took 12 years to complete the swing from all the Socialist damage done before...

You could keep going, but it just earns you more for continuing with your absurdity of claiming the Republicans struggled for over a decade to cure the ills of "socialism". Not many people will buy that. You are insulting people who think the Republicans are more competent than that and think capitalism is stronger than socialism and shouldn't need a decade to work.

Regardless - any thoughts on how did the 180 people that died in Brazil liked their government controlled airline? Slow acting bureaucracy has a curious way of killing people through inaction...

Mistakes were made. Same deal with the privately owned airlines on 9/11.

 

[LordRahl]

You are insulting people who think the Republicans are more competent than that and think capitalism is stronger than socialism and shouldn't need a decade to work.

I'm not a Republican. I'm a Libertarian. Republicans today are less and less Capitalism oriented. If anything, they need less Jesus Christ and more Ayn Rand.

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

The Congress generally tends to stand in the way of airlines making any sort of progress towards generating a profit.

Didn't the government help the airlines after 9/11? And what is this government-backed bankruptcy nonsense that allowed Delta to avoid paying their hard-working creditors?

 

[Masquerouge]

Regardless - any thoughts on how did the 180 people that died in Brazil liked their government controlled airline? Slow acting bureaucracy has a curious way of killing people through inaction...

This is one of the worst arguments I've read in a long time.

You're not seriously linking airplane crashes to private or public ownership of the company, are you?

 

[Elrohir]

Regardless - any thoughts on how did the 180 people that died in Brazil liked their government controlled airline? Slow acting bureaucracy has a curious way of killing people through inaction...

I'm not a fan of socialism either, but that is a pretty bad argument.

I'm not a Republican. I'm a Libertarian. Republicans today are less and less Capitalism oriented. If anything, they need less Jesus Christ and more Ayn Rand.

Yeah, Ayn Rand will save us all. Sure.


7,000th post!

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

This is one of the worst arguments I've read in a long time.

You're not seriously linking airplane crashes to private or public ownership of the company, are you?

Masquerouge, if Brazil had a private company performing weather control services, there would have been sunny skies for the landing. Those lazy bureaucratic government weather technicians were probably sleeping on the job.

 

[Masquerouge]

Masquerouge, if Brazil had a private company performing weather control services, there would have been sunny skies for the landing. Those lazy bureaucratic government weather technicians were probably sleeping on the job.

Yeah, bad weather is definitely communist.

 

[LordRahl]

This is one of the worst arguments I've read in a long time.

Not doing much reading then, are we?

You're not seriously linking airplane crashes to private or public ownership of the company, are you?

I'm not the only one. Pretty much every single article makes that link. Private companies have a much better reason for not killing their customers, than government bureaucracies...

President Luis Inacio da Silva has been unable to wrest control of the civil aviation system from the military, which oversees Brazil's air traffic controllers and has filled top positions at the national aviation agency with political appointees with little or no experience.

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/18/844399-brazil-plane-crash-may-haunt-government

 

[Masquerouge]

I'm not the only one. Pretty much every single article makes that link. Private companies have a much better reason for not killing their customers, than government bureaucracies...

please, show me this mass of articles proving that airline companies owned by the government are less safe than private airlines!

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/18/844399-brazil-plane-crash-may-haunt-government

President Luis Inacio da Silva has been unable to wrest control of the civil aviation system from the military, which oversees Brazil's air traffic controllers and has filled top positions at the national aviation agency with political appointees with little or no experience.

I will chalk this one up under the "fail" column, unless you're able to show me that these political appointees had a DIRECT involvement in the crash.
It would be very different if the sentence read:
"President Luis Inacio da Silva has been unable to wrest control of the civil aviation system from the military, which oversees Brazil's air traffic controllers and has filled pilot positions at the airline company with political appointees with little or no experience."

 

[LordRahl]

please, show me this mass of articles proving that airline companies owned by the government are less safe than private airlines!

If you read my posts you'd known I'm refering to the airplane crash in Brazil.
Go to Google news, and Google Brazil ariplane crash. You'll find plenty indicating that government is one of the main reasons for lack of safety.

I will chalk this one up under the "fail" column, unless you're able to show me that these political appointees had a DIRECT involvement in the crash.
It would be very different if the sentence read:
"President Luis Inacio da Silva has been unable to wrest control of the civil aviation system from the military, which oversees Brazil's air traffic controllers and has filled pilot positions at the airline company with political appointees with little or no experience."

I guess it would be even better, if I actually showed you an article showing the government actually shot the plane down?
If you think assigning people to key positions with no experience, just based on their political affiliation is fine, there's really no point in discussing this further. Here's some food for thought (instead of wacky smilies). Who do you think those inexperienced managers hired in turn?

 

[JollyRoger]

If you think assigning people to key positions with no experience, just based on their political affiliation is fine, there's really no point in discussing this further. Here's some food for thought (instead of wacky smilies). Who do you think those inexperienced managers hired in turn?

Want to take a close look at the Federal Aviation Administration? I bet it is packed with Heckuva Job Brownies.

 

[Phlegmak]

Ah, just ignore this.