Continents Map

[djjeffmaddox]

Basically, the way I decided to get better in Civ is to pick a scenario and keep replaying it until I win a game. So far I have been able to win standard size, pangea map game as Alexander by conquering 5 opponents and making the Ottomans my vassals. I have been trying to win a game on the continents map, but I am having difficulty. The victory I go for usually depends on what civilization I am. The typical scenario is that I usually am kicking the other 2 civilizations on my continent's behind and then Mansa Musa or Hathesput or some builder civ will pop out of nowhere with a caravel and be like "sup?" with a nice 2-8 tech lead. I usually quit at that point.

In my last game, I was the Ottomans, I started on a continent with Frederick and Kublai, I very quickly conquered some of Kublai's land and razed the Mongolians remaining cities into history. I was going for a domination (not conquest) win because I was expansive and organized, but when the other continent discovered me I decided to go for a space race. I was doing pretty decent, and I was able to barely keep up in tech race by just b-lining for Liberalism (nailed the slingshot) and then Physics. I didn't have any magnificent production cities so I was getting beaten to every single wonder I tried, except for a few early ones. However, I did conquer the Great Wall when I took out Kublai.

When Hatchesput (who was on the other continent) began running away with a 2000 point lead, I decided the Ottomans have had too much and declared war on her. I sent over 4 Galleons (before declaring) to her continent (took me forever to build) complete with about 5 cannons, 2 trebs, 4 Janisseries, and a Rifleman. I had 3 more Riflemen coming, but lagging behind my glorious Ottoman fleet. Anyway, I touch down in egypt and I am greeted by 3 uberstacksofwtfdoom and my forces are destroyed in 3 turns, despite putting up a great defense.

How can I compete with civilizations who I don't meet until they develop optics?

 

[svv]

Don't wait for them. On continents maps, it's important to develop optics early. Build a Carvelle and develop alphabet, and go and seek everybody else out so you can trade techs with them.

 

[Khalid]

How can I compete with civilizations who I don't meet until they develop optics?

Develop optics yourself sooner perhaps? Build 2 caravels and send them in oposite directions to discover new lands. When you discover the other continent sooner, you won't fall behind in techs so much and could catch up with tech trading. Also if you don't destroy all your neighbors that soon, your economy will be better in teching and you can get some trades with your partners also.

 

[djjeffmaddox]

ok I will try again and b-line for optics after I get Iron and Mathematics.

 

[Tatran]

"If you can't beat them join them."

I only play continental maps, it's much harder.
Turn on permanent alliances and try to ally with
one of the biggest civs on the other continent.
So you have control over both continents.