Convert to Jesus or Die!

[Eran of Arcadia]

Great, no one is saying that we should lose our free will, but on the other hand it is perfectly normal, and perfectly acceptable, to try to show others why yuor way is the true one.

 

[Katheryn]

There is widespread human sacrifice going on in India?

No, but it shows you didn't read the links!

Part of the anger of the Christian missionaries is that they have a book which condemns giving children to alligators. It is one of Aneeshm's links.

 

[Katheryn]

FYI, we've got many, many Hindu temples in our neck of the woods.

http://tamilelibrary.org/teli/templeus1.html


And I'm sure they think they have more truth than Christians.

So, it seems a little one sided to refuse to allow Christian evangelism in India. We are contributing quite a bit there, and we allow unfettered worship in the U.S. to Hindus.

 

[aneeshm]

No, but it shows you didn't read the links!

Part of the anger of the Christian missionaries is that they have a book which condemns giving children to alligators. It is one of Aneeshm's links.

That's because we don't give children to alligators! And you failed to read the wikipedia part which said that Christian missionaries sometimes removed idols of Hindu gods and replaced them with Mary and Christ, without anybody's consent and illegally.

 

[shortguy]

Why do people seem to think Christians (or any religious people for that matter) are going to put them to the sword if they don't convert? What do they fear us?

Because according to mainstream doctrine God is going to "put us to the sword," so to speak, if we don't convert. It's a significant psychological gulf to breach sometimes, to have normal relations with a person who thinks you're doomed to hellfire.

 

[CaptainF]

Christianity's holier than thou attitude towards people like myself is kind of a buzz killer.

 

[Katheryn]

That's because we don't give children to alligators! And you failed to read the wikipedia part which said that Christian missionaries sometimes removed idols of Hindu gods and replaced them with Mary and Christ, without anybody's consent and illegally.

What I read is that they put up PICTURES of Mary and Jesus instead of pictures of Hindu Gods.

So what.

We don't demand that Hindus put up pictures of Jesus!

Look, Aneeshm, I don't want to argue with you, but look, if they don't want a Christian influence, then they have to better the lives of the lower castes. In today's global village, there is just no place for the concept of "untouchables". Of course, they will flock to Christianity, where they are taught that we are all equal in God's eyes, that He loves all the same.

It really comes down to a cultural issue.

Besides, they appointed a Christian to the college as Vice Chancellor. Does that person have no rights? It's the way of the world to share one's faith.

 

[CaptainF]

Look, Aneeshm, I don't want to argue with you, but look, if they don't want a Christian influence, then they have to better the lives of the lower castes. In today's global village, there is just no place for the concept of "untouchables". Of course, they will flock to Christianity, where they are taught that we are all equal in God's eyes, that He loves all the same.

It really comes down to a cultural issue.

Besides, they appointed a Christian to the college as Vice Chancellor. Does that person have no rights? It's the way of the world to share one's faith.

See what I mean...

 

[Katheryn]

See what I mean...

And you think it normal for there to be a group of people, who are called 'untouchables' that because of who their parents were (ie racism) they are forced to live their entire lives in the shadows... are forced to carry brooms to brush away the evidence of their footprints?

How amazing that you think that "holier than thou". I call it normal. We fought a Civil War over this type of attitude.

At some point, India is going to have to do something about this cultural problem. The U.N. and World Trade Organization, not Christians, will demand it.

 

[unscratchedfoot]

And you think it normal for there to be a group of people, who are called 'untouchables' that because of who their parents were (ie racism) they are forced to live their entire lives in the shadows... are forced to carry brooms to brush away the evidence of their footprints?

How amazing that you think that "holier than thou". I call it normal. We fought a Civil War over this type of attitude.

At some point, India is going to have to do something about this cultural problem. The U.N. and World Trade Organization, not Christians, will demand it.

What do you in-laws have to say about this? Their bad treatment in Paris could have something to do with them putting up pictures of Hindu gods in a christian nation. Tact has to be considered when mixing religions.

 

[aneeshm]

You know, I read a couple of those articles, and I also read the description of one of those books.

Pretty much, all that is happening is that the missionaries are saying that the caste system is evil (ie the untouchables) not the will of God, as is human sacrifice.

Have you been reading Chick? Because this "human sacrifice" thing is his doing.

They are saying, "Christianity is better than Hinduism".

And we have a problem with that. We don't run around saying that we are superior, and in return we expect the same courtesy.

There is a new law that evangelists cannot try to convert on Vishnus's Seven Hills in Tirumala, because it defiles Vishnu. Since Christians do not see it as "Vishnus body" I see nothing wrong with that in a Christian's eyes.

Can you hear yourself? You have just admitted that Christians lack common decency and respect towards other people's religious sentiments.

 

[aneeshm]

#5: Intention distribution of BIBLES!!! Shame on these missionaries!

#4: Removal of photographs and Idols of Lord Venkateshwara and Goddess Padmavathi from the university premises and replacing them with Christ's and Mary's paintings.

Shame.

 

[aneeshm]

And you think it normal for there to be a group of people, who are called 'untouchables' that because of who their parents were (ie racism) they are forced to live their entire lives in the shadows... are forced to carry brooms to brush away the evidence of their footprints?

How amazing that you think that "holier than thou". I call it normal. We fought a Civil War over this type of attitude.

At some point, India is going to have to do something about this cultural problem. The U.N. and World Trade Organization, not Christians, will demand it.

Ignorance is a pernicious disease.

Maybe you are not aware that the caste system stands banned in India since 1947, and that somebody discriminating on the basis of caste is liable to be punished? That there is, in fact, reverse discrimination, and are reservations for lower caste people in universities and governmental jobs? That is is many times more difficult for me, a Brahmin, to get into a good university than it is for even a meritless lower caste person?

Before assuming a holier-than-thou attitude, perhaps it would be wiser to actually study the situation on the ground so that we do not fall flat on our faces?

 

[aneeshm]

And when I talk of inducements, I'm not talking about the usual missionary selling techniques. I'm talking about a group of missionaries getting together and touring tsunami-hit areas just after the disaster, and telling people that they have to convert if they want relief supplies.

 

[HannibalBarka]

And you think it normal for there to be a group of people, who are called 'untouchables' that because of who their parents were (ie racism) they are forced to live their entire lives in the shadows... are forced to carry brooms to brush away the evidence of their footprints?

Are you talking about gays here?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Actually, it is my understanding (from what I have read in reliable sources) that law or not, untouchables still actually have it pretty bad. Worse than, say, homosexuals in the US.

 

[nc-1701]

The reason I am enraged with christianity is because they refuse science, logic, reality, empericism, and instead fill their world with make-believe gods and miracles. GROW UP!!!

Why should I respect someone who doesn't respect themselves?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

None of what you said makes any sense. I respect myself, I accept science, logic, reality, and empiricism, and I believe in God because I feel that He has revealed Himself to me.

But that goes without saying. I am not enraged with atheism, but the continued stereotyping of the religious by some atheists displays their ignorance.

 

[nc-1701]

None of what you said makes any sense. I respect myself, I accept science, logic, reality, and empiricism, and I believe in God because I feel that He has revealed Himself to me.

But that goes without saying. I am not enraged with atheism, but the continued stereotyping of the religious by some atheists displays their ignorance.

MY ignorance!? I'm not the one that insists on believing in fairy tales because you cannot accept the fact that your'e not the special chosen people! If you cannot accept and respect yourselves for who you are. Then there is no reason I should until you pull your head out of you're ass, and start paying attention to reality as opposed to you're fairy tales.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

MY ignorance!? I'm not the one that insists on believing in fairy tales because you cannot accept the fact that your'e not the special chosen people! If you cannot accept and respect yourselves for who you are. Then there is no reason I should until you pull your head out of you're ass, and start paying attention to reality as opposed to you're fairy tales.

See, there you go displaying your ignorance. The fact is, you are criticizing a strawman. Okay, not quite, there are Christians such as you describe, but you appear to know little about what motivates religious people in general, and Christians in particular.

The fact is, I am religious because I really, genuinely, sincerely believe it to be true, not because I cannot handle the psychological consequences of being wrong. I am as comfortable with the prospect of nonexistence after death as any atheist, for example; I believe in an afterlife not because I have to but because I believe it to be the truth.