Xevious
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@al thor: I'd assume he means in his game the Netherlands are in third.
COTM 02 First Spoiler: End Of Ancient age
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SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
al_thor said:
On the bottom right of the screen there are little letters to the right of the year. If you click on the V then it shows all the ranking and histograpgh scores
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
Xevious said:
Yes that is what i meant... sry for the mistake i meant that im in 3rd in my game. hehe
I have a guestion for the guys who moved settler far west into the middle of the island..
Don't you think it was kind of risky if you use common sense to do that??
At the beggining we didn't know we were on the island. It could have been as well a situation where you move your settler right next to the existing AI civilization. Wouldn't it be hard to expand in such a case?
So many turns would be lost already and with no units and with AI that probably already has 2 or 3 cities and military units it would be a big danger to lose the game at the very beggining.
For me it was hard to justify such a move without knowing i don't have dangerous opponent in close proximity.
Don't you think it was kind of risky if you use common sense to do that??
At the beggining we didn't know we were on the island. It could have been as well a situation where you move your settler right next to the existing AI civilization. Wouldn't it be hard to expand in such a case?
So many turns would be lost already and with no units and with AI that probably already has 2 or 3 cities and military units it would be a big danger to lose the game at the very beggining.
For me it was hard to justify such a move without knowing i don't have dangerous opponent in close proximity.
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
yes. that is the reason why after i moved worker W and saw mountains i settled SE and built settlers as quick as possible. it worked out fine for me. i thought it was too risky to keep goin west with the settler
al_thor
Prince
Hey dudes:
How do I paste an image to a message so it is visible (not an attachment)?
Sniperdevil:
Oh. I thought you were talking about overall score.
I'm having a blast with this game! I'm almost done with it, whcih makes me sad. Now I have to wait for GOTM33.
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Sniperdevil:
Oh. I thought you were talking about overall score.
I'm having a blast with this game! I'm almost done with it, whcih makes me sad. Now I have to wait for GOTM33.
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
al_thor said:
al_thor
Prince
dmanakho:
It will be interesting to see how the people that moved the settler all the way to the Dyes did in Score. That's a LONG way to move the initial Settler. What was it - like 5 or 6 tiles?!!! Not for me.
It will be interesting to see how the people that moved the settler all the way to the Dyes did in Score. That's a LONG way to move the initial Settler. What was it - like 5 or 6 tiles?!!! Not for me.
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
I know we are getting off topic but how do you take a screenshot to post in the forums
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
i meant how do u take a screenshot in the game so that you can post it in the forums
Xevious
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1.22f
Cities
I made a variety of mistakes in this game. I moved the worker west, and like Offa, thought the blue flecks beyond the mountains were coast. I thought we were on a very small island with nothing much good over the mountains. So I settled the BG, roaded and mined the grass and then joined the worker (yes, even after noting in the pregame that I thought there was never a good time to join the worker. I guess I was swayed by some of the arguments for joining.) Things kind of went downhill from there for quite a while. I built curragh, curragh, warrior, warrior, settler, settler. I didn't move the warriors so I could keep my science at max, only moving them when the first settler popped.
I settled Rotterdam on the grass by the river, between the two BG. The second settler founded The Hague just S of the cow. I got a worker out of The Hague and 2 workers out of Rotterdam, to get it behind The Hague in growth. I managed Amsterdam to get a settler exactly at growth 3 and just in time to allow the Hague to get ahead of Rotterdam in pop. I abandoned Amsterdam in 1625, jumping the palace to the Hague, just S of cow. By 1000 BC I only have 6 cities, but I'm planning to start packing them in. I want as many on the river as I can get for the food bonus.
Technology
My tech choices were bad too. I did Writing at speed, but then I traded it for other techs and went for Philosophy. I need to learn to not trade for techs so soon. I have some kind of stigma where I hate to be behind in tech, even though I know in the back of my mind that I can catch it all up quickly later. So I did Philosophy next, and took COL for free, knowing I could get Map Making later when I needed it. Then I did a 50 turn Republic, another mistake that I made last COTM. You'd think I'd learn. I plan on writing all this down and bashing it into my skull before the next COTM. I didn't finish Republic until 590BC, and got 4 turns of anarchy. I had traded for everything but Currency by this time and decided it was very likely someone else would get it long before me, so I turned off research. Barb uprisings hit in 470BC, only a few turns after becoming Republic, so it looks like I made the right decision. I traded Monarchy for Currency from a nearby neighbor and entered the Middle Ages.
Exploration
My first two curraghs, and later a third did quite a lot of exploring, and were lucky enough to survive a few dangerous water stops. By 1000BC I knew all but one of the other civs, and met the last in 710BC. I may be behind in every way, but my techs are on par with the best of them.
Foreigners
I had one of the other civs settle on the north end of the river in 1075BC. It was only defended by a warrior, so I decided to take it out. It took 2 vet warriors to do so, but I really didn't want them there. I made the mistake of not resettling Amsterdam with the last settler and hence lost that Peninsula to another civ that settled on a hill there later on. I'll deal with them later.
Ancient Age Summary
When I entered the Middle Ages, I had 12 cities, including one each by the horses and iron, and a settler heading to the tundra to start finishing off our island. I've got 36 citizens, 6 workers (way too few, I'm working on that), 2 galleys, 1 curragh, and 15 warriors. I've got a treasury over 1200g, from the 50 turn Republic research, and tech trades, and a plan to start upgrades soon to go after the nearest neighbor. I'm dead last on the scoreboard, just over half of the score of the next lowest civ, but score is improving and my power ranking is about third, and steadily growing against the others. I think I've got a chance to pull out a decent game, so I'm not giving up on this. I definately think the palace jump will be a big help.
1.22fCities
I made a variety of mistakes in this game. I moved the worker west, and like Offa, thought the blue flecks beyond the mountains were coast. I thought we were on a very small island with nothing much good over the mountains. So I settled the BG, roaded and mined the grass and then joined the worker (yes, even after noting in the pregame that I thought there was never a good time to join the worker. I guess I was swayed by some of the arguments for joining.) Things kind of went downhill from there for quite a while. I built curragh, curragh, warrior, warrior, settler, settler. I didn't move the warriors so I could keep my science at max, only moving them when the first settler popped.
I settled Rotterdam on the grass by the river, between the two BG. The second settler founded The Hague just S of the cow. I got a worker out of The Hague and 2 workers out of Rotterdam, to get it behind The Hague in growth. I managed Amsterdam to get a settler exactly at growth 3 and just in time to allow the Hague to get ahead of Rotterdam in pop. I abandoned Amsterdam in 1625, jumping the palace to the Hague, just S of cow. By 1000 BC I only have 6 cities, but I'm planning to start packing them in. I want as many on the river as I can get for the food bonus.
Technology
My tech choices were bad too. I did Writing at speed, but then I traded it for other techs and went for Philosophy. I need to learn to not trade for techs so soon. I have some kind of stigma where I hate to be behind in tech, even though I know in the back of my mind that I can catch it all up quickly later. So I did Philosophy next, and took COL for free, knowing I could get Map Making later when I needed it. Then I did a 50 turn Republic, another mistake that I made last COTM. You'd think I'd learn. I plan on writing all this down and bashing it into my skull before the next COTM. I didn't finish Republic until 590BC, and got 4 turns of anarchy. I had traded for everything but Currency by this time and decided it was very likely someone else would get it long before me, so I turned off research. Barb uprisings hit in 470BC, only a few turns after becoming Republic, so it looks like I made the right decision. I traded Monarchy for Currency from a nearby neighbor and entered the Middle Ages.
Exploration
My first two curraghs, and later a third did quite a lot of exploring, and were lucky enough to survive a few dangerous water stops. By 1000BC I knew all but one of the other civs, and met the last in 710BC. I may be behind in every way, but my techs are on par with the best of them.
Foreigners
I had one of the other civs settle on the north end of the river in 1075BC. It was only defended by a warrior, so I decided to take it out. It took 2 vet warriors to do so, but I really didn't want them there. I made the mistake of not resettling Amsterdam with the last settler and hence lost that Peninsula to another civ that settled on a hill there later on. I'll deal with them later.
Ancient Age Summary
When I entered the Middle Ages, I had 12 cities, including one each by the horses and iron, and a settler heading to the tundra to start finishing off our island. I've got 36 citizens, 6 workers (way too few, I'm working on that), 2 galleys, 1 curragh, and 15 warriors. I've got a treasury over 1200g, from the 50 turn Republic research, and tech trades, and a plan to start upgrades soon to go after the nearest neighbor. I'm dead last on the scoreboard, just over half of the score of the next lowest civ, but score is improving and my power ranking is about third, and steadily growing against the others. I think I've got a chance to pull out a decent game, so I'm not giving up on this. I definately think the palace jump will be a big help.
SniperDevil
Skipper of Barnegat Bay
thank you for the info
baboon
Warlord
I usually play emperor, but i reload until I get a nice start, so I'm not really an emperor player. This game is really hard for me, also because I never play archipelago or something with a lot of boats involved.
What do you guys do after the island is full? I got the horses and iron, but then? Expand? Don't know where. So war it will be I guess?
What do you guys do after the island is full? I got the horses and iron, but then? Expand? Don't know where. So war it will be I guess?
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
For those of you who settled the BG (like me) I don't think you made a mistake. The Dutch are a seafaring civ. If you used the location to start building curraghs and start exploring, I think the trade off is quite equal. Figure by settling the BG you:
1. Started research faster (can anyone say Republic slingshot)
2. Started real exploration faster (3 move curraghs rock!)
3. Met other civs faster
4. Still could make use of the agricultural trait with your second cities.
Remember, there is no one way to play this game. It will be interesting to compare the results of those who settled the BG v. those who marched to the cow and settled in 10 AD. (ok, a little exaggeration
)
1. Started research faster (can anyone say Republic slingshot)
2. Started real exploration faster (3 move curraghs rock!)
3. Met other civs faster
4. Still could make use of the agricultural trait with your second cities.
Remember, there is no one way to play this game. It will be interesting to compare the results of those who settled the BG v. those who marched to the cow and settled in 10 AD. (ok, a little exaggeration
)
grs
nameless one
baboon said:
You could do a nice peacefull diplomatic win for instance.
al_thor
Prince
Here is my continent at the end of the AA:
Moderator Action: covered minimap showing excessive map info - AlanH
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al_thor
Prince
damn. what am i doing wrong?
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