denyd
Emperor
I think the complaint occurs when you're fighting a war that starts your GA. Once the GA starts you can't build anymore GS, which slows getting any new attackers to the front by 50%.
COTM 17 - Pre-game Discussion
- Thread starter Karasu
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Markus5
Code Monkey
Well, it wasn't a problem building more GSwords. M Infantry weren't available yet. And the upgrade to M Infantry later was what I wanted. I wanted the extra hit point for attacking invaders. I was already building knights.
It is very possible at emperor, especially when you have a river and some wines which give a nice commerce bonus. Becoming republic earlier means more gold in the long run (of course i will stop research after learning Republic). The slingshot should be enough to buy Map Making and Iron Working and that should be enough to win the game unless the continents are very far apart (In this case i would need to research Currency, Theology, Astronomy and Navigation). I won't bother researching chivalry and feudalsim because GS is the best unit before cavalry.
HeadBlend
Chieftain
Wow - Celts!
Some early action with GS and I might end up on top of this one!
Some early action with GS and I might end up on top of this one!
ionimplant
Prince
wow, i'm really surprised there's so much discussion going on here without even a picture. i personally am not very good at envisioning things based on only description... will waiti till karasu gets time to put up a picture. 
pindicator
Emperor
Okay, I don't think it's been said yet, but...
We all remember Kuningas' 100k win on COTM15, right? Well Celts have to be the best possible civ for beating that time. Agricultural, religious, and a killer UU -- I don't think I'm the person to try for it, but Feudalism whipping for an 100k win (or for just plain production, really) seems a very powerful strategy.
We all remember Kuningas' 100k win on COTM15, right? Well Celts have to be the best possible civ for beating that time. Agricultural, religious, and a killer UU -- I don't think I'm the person to try for it, but Feudalism whipping for an 100k win (or for just plain production, really) seems a very powerful strategy.
azzaman333
meh
Karasu said:So I thought -well, why not- the Celts! mind you, I might still change it at the very last minute...
And what will everyone do if Karasu changes the civ last minute???
Redbad
should have shaved
azzaman333 said:
We'll cut the wheatlands and all that's on it
Più Freddo
From space, earth is blue
azzaman333 said:
Well, that last minute is getting closer and closer! Prego, Karasu, a picture and a commitment! On the double!
IronKnight
Master of Disaster
pindicator said:
That's an interesting idea. I have a question for those who go for 100K. Is the Temple of Artemis a must build wonder for 100K? At first it seems like it might as you would get instant temples in all conquered lands. The instant culture would be incredible! However, it is fairly expensive at 500 gold, and becomes obsolete with the discovery of Education. Is it worth it to build? I've never built this wonder. What happens after Education, do you lose all of the free temples? Or does it just stop producing new ones?
azzaman333
meh
IronKnight said:
IIRC, you lose every temple you hadnt built beforehand.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
One idea for 100k is to do some early conquering with Gallics and secure your continent. Next, start feudalism and subsequent poprushing on your own continent. At the same time, send your Gallics across to the other continent to grab the ToA and then start poprushing over there.
This assumes there are 2 main continents which is normal...but this map design probably isn't very normal.
This assumes there are 2 main continents which is normal...but this map design probably isn't very normal.
7Losses
Chieftain
IronKnight said:
Yeah, it gives a free temple in every city on the continent, but they all disappear with Education. IIRC, Kunnigas never bothered to get Education, so it wasn't a problem. For the price, most players seem to go with capturing it, though I recall a great date Ronald got building it himself.
As to beating Kunnigas' awesome date, a good civ might not be enough. The map for cotm15 was the biggest meatball I've ever seen!
pindicator
Emperor
Jove said:
Oh, definitely. Not only was it the biggest meatball, it also had a fantastic starting spot for pumping out settlers (two 4-turn settler factories post-despotism!) My observation is that if its going to be done, the Celts seem the ideal civ to do it with; even if the time is not beaten, they still should lend to some strong win dates.
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
We will form an angry mob, Simpsons-style, and burn down the GOTM Towers.azzaman333 said:
pindicator
Emperor
Jove said:
Oh boy... I could, but I'm not so sure I'd do well. In fact, why not! I really need to improve on my early-game warmongering tho
pindicator said:
I think I'll do the same. It'd be fun to compare results, as long as we don't take it too seriously, although my most abyssmal performances happen when I have these pregame head-to-head arrangements
So, let's not go head-to-head! I'll just play, and leave open the option of changing my mind. Early war is one of my weaknesses too. My crystal ball shows a great temptation to go for a full-bore farmer's gambit, which falls apart when we're sneak attacked by a snarly emporer-level neighbor... I'm going to be on my guard against some kind of 2000BC disaster.
