COTM 18 Pre-game discussion

[ionimplant]

Ok, ok... Flood Plains are not going to cause disease in this game.

Happy now?

all the discussion and strategy of how to cope with desease is in vain

just kidding.

 

[Smirk]

Twonky: Its food, shields then commerce, so yes you would get the gold if its chosen upon growth (I assumed thats what you were getting at).

 

[DaveMcW]

Actually it's commerce, food, shields.

 

[DJMGator13]

Another deity tip is to not fight alone. Try to bring other Civs into a war on your side, or you may need to join an existing war. If a war is being fought close to you see if you can cherry-pick some free city sites as the 2 AI's capture each others cities.

 

[al_thor]

Thanks for the mod Karasu!
Now the guys that are really good will kick a$$, and the bottom-feeders (like me) may just survive until the MA.

If I actually do make it to Military Tradition AND I have Horse AND I have Salt, I'll probably be going up against Tanks or even Mech's with my Sipahi.

Still ,the lack of disease gives me a ray of hope at least.

So............When can we play?

 

[King Of America]

Karasu--could you please post the Conquest bonuses when you have them?

 

[Karasu]

Done -sorry so late, folks.
I added them to the first post (also added the minimap).

In any case:

Conquest Bonuses
- One extra settler
- 2 Scouts
- 150 gold

Predator equalisers
- AI unit support increased to Sid
- Start with no techs

 

[Twonky]

Predator equalisers
- AI unit support increased to Sid
- Start with no techs

... yeah, right! Anyone in for a sid-game?

I replaned my start, I think I´ll rather settle on the gold too. Build-order W-War-Gr-4 turn settlers. This one focusses early growth aiming for the size 5/6 4-turner. For those interested:

Spoiler :

EDIT: changed the template after KoA made me think it over...

 

[King Of America]

@Twonky -- to check the number of beakers, use CivAssist on any C3C Deity/standard size/pan. game (might as play as Ottomans ) -- the technology tab lists all techs and their beakers.

If I remmember correctly, Pottery is 80 and Alpha is 200 (I'm at work so I have to use my native CPU)

 

[Twonky]

If I remmember correctly, Pottery is 80 and Alpha is 200

I just checked, and you are correct. On max research, Pottery should be in around turn 11 or so then.

 

[al_thor]

@Twonky:
What will you research after Pottery? I suppose this depends on whether we are alone or not.
What are the starting techs for the Ottoman's again? They are Scientific/Industrious, right?

 

[Twonky]

Yes, Ottomans are SCI and IND. We start with BW and Masonry.
I really didn´t think a lot about what to research after Pottery. It might be worth to take the gold if profitable tech-trading is possible. We will surely not be isolated, that would be too cruel.
I´m by no means a deity-level player, but I hope to trade for Alphabet early (should be possible with Masonry and BW or Pottery) and research Writing, then go for Philosophy if there is a slight chance to get the free tech. This might then be Literature, which should allow for nice trading. But all this will really depend on what our contacts will be like.

 

[Vegasgustan]

Well,

I know I can't win a Deity game yet, so I am just going to have some fun and be a bit stupid....NO WAR GAME FOR ME. I will not declare on anyone. I will not violate borders. I will try and get peace every turn if war is declared on me. I am going to see how long my pathetic Civ can last...

Hell, maybe I'll get a DEPO VIC...if I last that long.:suicide:

 

[ionimplant]

Well,

I know I can't win a Deity game yet, so I am just going to have some fun and be a bit stupid....NO WAR GAME FOR ME. I will not declare on anyone. I will not violate borders. I will try and get peace every turn if war is declared on me. I am going to see how long my pathetic Civ can last...

Hell, maybe I'll get a DEPO VIC...if I last that long.:suicide:

well, without taking advantage of some wars (and get AI to fight each others) and sueing for peace as soon as you can will make your game really difficult...

 

[Own]

Who says you have to fight early?

I don't know what to go for, whatever comes with highest scoriing is for me.

 

[ionimplant]

the game is out and the conquest class's bonus this time is really generous! 1 settler and 2 scouts!!!

 

[AlanH]

the game is out and the conquest class's bonus this time is really generous! 1 settler and 2 scouts!!!

In the cold light of day, I've checked the Conquest class save. It's only ONE extra scout. Apologies for that, I misread Karasu's briefing.

Please do NOT post here after you have loaded the start save.

 

[Jove]

Yes, Ottomans are SCI and IND. We start with BW and Masonry.

So it takes 2 turns to irrigate, 3 to mine. I think the worker moves are off in the table. Now I'm stuck having to figure it out. I like how it doesn't waste food...

I just did 2 culture games, domination will be the way to go this time, even though I have about .025% chance of winning the award.

Definitely settle in place, research pottery, and try not to blow it

 

[azzaman333]

So it takes 2 turns to irrigate, 3 to mine.

I;m pretty sure its 3 to irrigate and 4 to mine for industrious civs

 

[Karasu]

In the cold light of day, I've checked the Conquest class save. It's only ONE extra scout. Apologies for that, I misread Karasu's briefing.

Please do NOT post here after you have loaded the start save.

Now who is stealing the other's apologies?
You read it perfectly -I typed it wrong (corrected the first post)

Luckily, the extra settler is ok...
...anyone going predator btw?