COTM56 - Final Spoiler

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  1. Andronicus

    Andronicus Emperor

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    I believe that equals Lord Hamster's best date for a 20k COTM victory :goodjob:
     
  2. ignas

    ignas kunigaikstis

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    Complete list of builds in 20K town:

    3950 Palace
    3200 Granary
    3050 Jaguar Warrior
    2750 Settler
    2550 Settler
    1525 The Pyramids
    1375 Temple
    1075 The Oracle
    1050 Library
    800 The Great Library
    775 Colosseum
    670 Mausoleum of Mausollos
    630 Cathedral
    410 The Hanging Gardens
    270 University
    50 AD Shake's Theatre
    170 AD The Statue of Zeus
    270 AD Heroic Epic
    380 AD Copernicus Observatory
    490 AD Newton's University
    530 AD Factory
    540 AD Coal Plant
    590 AD Sistine Chapel
    600 AD Wall Street
    650 AD JS Bach's Cathedral
    720 AD Universal Suffrage
    730 AD The Pentagon
    790 AD Theory of Evolution
    840 AD Leonardo's Workshop
    910 AD Hoover Dam
    930 AD Forbidden Palace (in 920 AD Palace went to other town so I could use 1000 shield Palace prebuild for MA wonder)
    1070 AD Seti program
    1080 AD Research Lab
    1090 AD Palace
    1100 AD Military Academy
    1190 AD The United Nations
    1200 AD Apollo Program
    1210 AD Nuclear Plant
    1250 AD Smith's Trading Company
    1285 AD The Internet
    1290 AD Battlefield Medicine
    1325 AD Cure for Cancer
    1355 AD The Manhattan Project
    1360 AD Manufacturing Plant
    1390 AD Longevity
    1405 AD Intelligence AGency
     
  3. Lanzelot

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    ignas, that's simply impressive! Still grasping for words... (the BC and early AD dominations and conquests are quite nice as well, but a 20K is always something special, and when have we ever seen one scoring 12000?!)

    After this masterpiece I almost feel ashamed to report about my own attempt... But anyway, I also went for 20K (what else....). I tried a completely different strategy, not trying for a fast 20K date, but for a high score. So I outlined this game as a fast domination game + milking phase + 20K finish, and consequently used the first two towns for rexing and only the third town (founded next to the iron mountain east of the capital) as my 20K city.
    Well, we'll never know, whether this was a valid strategy or just a stupid idea, because I ran out of time during the milking phase in 1255AD... The score at that point looked quite ok (3200 Fireaxis & Jason), but ignas probably even beat me in that regard, despite dedicating the capital to the 20K task... The 20K finish date is currently predicted at 1772, but there are quite a few wonders still to be build, so I think it would end up somewhere in the low 1700s.

    Noteworthy is perhaps the unexpected usefulness of the Jaguars. First of all, thanks to TheOverseer's tip I used them as scouts and got very early contacts with our ten neighbors: in 1700BC I had ten contacts, the fastest scouting in any of my games, so far...
    Next it proved very useful for the Jaguar -> Swordsman upgrade that I used in the beginning, before I had horses. Some of my towns were producing 7/8 spt, so were capable of spitting out Jaguars at the same rate as they would have produced ordinary warriors, but the upgrade is 20 gold less.
    And finally even at later stages it should always be possible to find a red-lined Archer/Longbow somewhere to trigger a well-timed GA. In my game I did so in 320AD.
    (And once an elite Jaguar even produced a leader for me... :goodjob: )

    Lanzelot
     
  4. eldar

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    Aeson managed a very high scoring 20K in a Demi-God COTM early on - COTM7? With Sumeria. That was a very impressive game.
     
  5. PaperBeetle

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    ++ perhaps? Not a combination we see very often!
     
  6. Spoonwood

    Spoonwood Grand Philosopher

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    Mighty impressive for not having any SGLs Ignas.
     
  7. eldar

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    Here ya go - COTM08, Aeson not only grabbed + + , he got the for lowest-scoring 20K as well :crazyeye:
     
  8. Spoonwood

    Spoonwood Grand Philosopher

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    Interesting how early the university came and how the religious wonders came after the factory and coal plant. It looks like optimal lower level 20k strategy differs from upper level 20k strategy quite a bit.

    Ignas,

    Did you have a slew of workers and do tricks like mine till you drop, then irrigate on the last turn like Andronicus did?
     
  9. ignas

    ignas kunigaikstis

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    Sure, I did this. This allowed to build few wonders a turn earlier.

    High score came from fast expansion. Pyramids helped greatly. Although domination limit was reached just in around 500AD fast growth compensated this: in 10AD i had 200 citizens, 300 pop in 250AD, 500 pop in 400AD, 1000 pop in 750AD. And most of the citizens were happy or scientists all the time (hooked up all 8 luxuries fast, had few sources of War Happiness and used lux slider). Score peaked at 50 per turn at some point.
     
  10. ignas

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    Double post
     

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