Adler17
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And who said, who can´t beat me? 
5 pts. is too much to capture now. So I wait another time for revanche .
Adler
5 pts. is too much to capture now. So I wait another time for revanche .Adler
Cumulative PM-based History Quiz II
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Ciceronian
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Times up, submissions have closed. We have one more entrant, our friend the theologian and scenario creator Plotinus, who did a great job and scored 27.5 points, tieing for 5th place with Jeriko one. So our final leaderboard reads as follows:
Luceafarul...38.5 points
Adler17.......34 points
Loulong.......33 points
Sydhe.........29.5 points
Plotinus ..27.5 points
Jeriko one....27.5 points
Till.............19 points
Shortguy.....18 points
Rambuchan..8 points
Greekguy.....6 points
Therefore our grand winner of the day is as always the wise and learned historian Luceafarul, who beat Adler thanks to the experience of his senior years. I very much look forward to the quiz he will present us with, the last one is too long back for my taste!
I was very pleased about the large number of submissions which indicates revived interest in the PM-based quiz. Hopefully the next one will generate an equal amount of submissions!
Luceafarul...38.5 points
Adler17.......34 points
Loulong.......33 points
Sydhe.........29.5 points
Plotinus ..27.5 points
Jeriko one....27.5 points
Till.............19 points
Shortguy.....18 points
Rambuchan..8 points
Greekguy.....6 points
Therefore our grand winner of the day is as always the wise and learned historian Luceafarul, who beat Adler thanks to the experience of his senior years. I very much look forward to the quiz he will present us with, the last one is too long back for my taste!
I was very pleased about the large number of submissions which indicates revived interest in the PM-based quiz. Hopefully the next one will generate an equal amount of submissions!
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
But now to the answers:
1. The first picture shows some Leibniz cookies. These are named after Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz (1646 1716), who, to quote our winner luceafarul, was an intellectual superman; excelled in philosophy, mathematics, law, diplomacy etc, etc. The second picture shows Sir Isaac Newton, who developed differential calculus independantly of Leibniz, and who had an argument with him over mathematics. The town pictured, is Hannover, where the Cebit (extra picture clue) takes place every year. Leibniz spent his later life there and died there. The last picture shows the French philosopher Voltaire, whose satire Candide is a brilliant mockery on Leibniz' thesis about the best of all worlds, to quote luceafarul again.
2. Edward Gibbon is describing the possible effects of a Saracen victory at the Battle of Tours in 732. Here Charles Martel (the Hammer) lead a coalition force of Christian Europeans against the Saracens and halted the Muslim advance through Spain into France, pushing them back beyond the Pyrenees. Also called the Battle of Poitiers, it is not be confused (eh, luceafarul?) with the Battle of Poitiers which took place in 1356 between the British and the French and was one of the major British victories.
3. Halldór Laxness (1902 1998) won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1955, being the only Icelandic winner until today.
4. These two passages were written by John Locke (1632 1704), a British Empiricist. Empiricism is about gaining knowledge through experience, as opposed to Rationalism, (e.g. Descartes) which argued that all knowledge came from the mind. The first passage is from An Essay concerning Human Understanding. The second is from Two Treatises on Government and is an example of his political philosophy, which displays democratic tendencies and had influences on later generations, most notably the independence of the United States.
5. The correct answer is the Greek general and writer Xenophon (427 355 BC). The first picture shows the tomb of Cyrus the Great of Persia. Xenophon wrote about him in his Cyropaedia or The Education of Cyrus. The second picture shows a horse, because Xenophon is often cited as being the original horse whisperer and advocating sympathetic horsemanship in his On Horsemanship. The third picture shows Socrates, since Xenophons writings include Socratic dialogues. Xenophon is one of our main sources on Socrates besides Plato. The fourth clue, 10 000, probably tipped most people off, and is a reference to the March of the Ten Thousand, also known as the Anabasis, an expedition of Greek mercenaries which fought its way through Persian territory, which Xenophon was part of himself.
6. The colours can be assigned as follows:
Yellow = Belgium
Dark orange = France
Bright orange = Britain
Red = Germany
Green = Italy
Blue = Portugal
Purple = Spain
The eastern grey country is Ethiopia, remaining independent throughout the colonization period except for a brief occupation by Italy. The western one is Liberia, which was recolonized by African-Americans and gained its independence in 1847, one hundred years before the other African countries.
7. After Hitlers suicide when the Allies stood before Berlin the office of Chancellor passed on to Joseph Goebbels, who also comitted suicide one day later and so was German Chancellor for only one day.
8. A satrap was the name given to the governor of provinces (satrapies) in the ancient Median and Persian Achaemnid empires as well as successors as the Sassanides. Satraps were often quite independt of the central Persian king and were frequently merely local kings who could continue governing under the Persians. Sometimes there were even intrigues between two neighbouring satraps, such as in Asia Minor where one satrap payed the Spartans to attack his neighbour instead.
9. The person in the back represents the Chinese Qing dynasty, to the left we have Queen Victoria of the British Empire, next Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, Tzar Nicholas II of Russia, standing behind him is Marianne as the national emblem of France, and rightmost is the Japanese samurai. The major powers at the table are negotiating spheres of interest in China where they hold exclusive trading rights, hence dividing up the Chinese cake between them.
10. Austria sat out the second division of Poland in 1793.
11. Cunctator means "delayer" and refers to Fabius stategy which consisted in avoiding any open confrontation with Hannibal's army, which was rampaging through Italy, seeking to exhaust him in a war of attrition instead. He was heavily critized and branded a coward, and was replaced by two consuls the following year. They ran headlong into disaster by meeting Hannibal in a pitched battle, resulting in one of the traumas of Rome: the Battle of Cannae in 216 BC. After that Rome reverted to the tactics of Fabius and put him back into command, and no more major engagements with Hannibal occurred until he left the Italian peninsula in 203 BC.
12. The pictures show the following men:
John Wycliffe, 14th century critic of the Catholic Church who was only condemned posthumously and escaped punishment in his lifetime.
Jan Hus, Bohemian priest who preached against the degeneracy of the Catholic Church and eventually got burnt at the stake for his preaching.
Martin Luther, the famous German reformator, who ultimately succeeded not in reforming the Church but forming the Protestant Church.
John Calvin, who set up a Protestant theocracy in Geneva where he ruled over his Puritan state.
All of the above where religious reformers who attacked the teachings of the Catholic Church and the power of the Pope.
The odd one out in my opinion is Jan Hus, because he was the only one to be executed and not to meet a natural death. The problem with the odd one out questions is that there are more than one possible answer, so I accepted any other logical argument.
1. The first picture shows some Leibniz cookies. These are named after Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz (1646 1716), who, to quote our winner luceafarul, was an intellectual superman; excelled in philosophy, mathematics, law, diplomacy etc, etc. The second picture shows Sir Isaac Newton, who developed differential calculus independantly of Leibniz, and who had an argument with him over mathematics. The town pictured, is Hannover, where the Cebit (extra picture clue) takes place every year. Leibniz spent his later life there and died there. The last picture shows the French philosopher Voltaire, whose satire Candide is a brilliant mockery on Leibniz' thesis about the best of all worlds, to quote luceafarul again.
2. Edward Gibbon is describing the possible effects of a Saracen victory at the Battle of Tours in 732. Here Charles Martel (the Hammer) lead a coalition force of Christian Europeans against the Saracens and halted the Muslim advance through Spain into France, pushing them back beyond the Pyrenees. Also called the Battle of Poitiers, it is not be confused (eh, luceafarul?) with the Battle of Poitiers which took place in 1356 between the British and the French and was one of the major British victories.
3. Halldór Laxness (1902 1998) won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1955, being the only Icelandic winner until today.
4. These two passages were written by John Locke (1632 1704), a British Empiricist. Empiricism is about gaining knowledge through experience, as opposed to Rationalism, (e.g. Descartes) which argued that all knowledge came from the mind. The first passage is from An Essay concerning Human Understanding. The second is from Two Treatises on Government and is an example of his political philosophy, which displays democratic tendencies and had influences on later generations, most notably the independence of the United States.
5. The correct answer is the Greek general and writer Xenophon (427 355 BC). The first picture shows the tomb of Cyrus the Great of Persia. Xenophon wrote about him in his Cyropaedia or The Education of Cyrus. The second picture shows a horse, because Xenophon is often cited as being the original horse whisperer and advocating sympathetic horsemanship in his On Horsemanship. The third picture shows Socrates, since Xenophons writings include Socratic dialogues. Xenophon is one of our main sources on Socrates besides Plato. The fourth clue, 10 000, probably tipped most people off, and is a reference to the March of the Ten Thousand, also known as the Anabasis, an expedition of Greek mercenaries which fought its way through Persian territory, which Xenophon was part of himself.
6. The colours can be assigned as follows:
Yellow = Belgium
Dark orange = France
Bright orange = Britain
Red = Germany
Green = Italy
Blue = Portugal
Purple = Spain
The eastern grey country is Ethiopia, remaining independent throughout the colonization period except for a brief occupation by Italy. The western one is Liberia, which was recolonized by African-Americans and gained its independence in 1847, one hundred years before the other African countries.
7. After Hitlers suicide when the Allies stood before Berlin the office of Chancellor passed on to Joseph Goebbels, who also comitted suicide one day later and so was German Chancellor for only one day.
8. A satrap was the name given to the governor of provinces (satrapies) in the ancient Median and Persian Achaemnid empires as well as successors as the Sassanides. Satraps were often quite independt of the central Persian king and were frequently merely local kings who could continue governing under the Persians. Sometimes there were even intrigues between two neighbouring satraps, such as in Asia Minor where one satrap payed the Spartans to attack his neighbour instead.
9. The person in the back represents the Chinese Qing dynasty, to the left we have Queen Victoria of the British Empire, next Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, Tzar Nicholas II of Russia, standing behind him is Marianne as the national emblem of France, and rightmost is the Japanese samurai. The major powers at the table are negotiating spheres of interest in China where they hold exclusive trading rights, hence dividing up the Chinese cake between them.
10. Austria sat out the second division of Poland in 1793.
11. Cunctator means "delayer" and refers to Fabius stategy which consisted in avoiding any open confrontation with Hannibal's army, which was rampaging through Italy, seeking to exhaust him in a war of attrition instead. He was heavily critized and branded a coward, and was replaced by two consuls the following year. They ran headlong into disaster by meeting Hannibal in a pitched battle, resulting in one of the traumas of Rome: the Battle of Cannae in 216 BC. After that Rome reverted to the tactics of Fabius and put him back into command, and no more major engagements with Hannibal occurred until he left the Italian peninsula in 203 BC.
12. The pictures show the following men:
John Wycliffe, 14th century critic of the Catholic Church who was only condemned posthumously and escaped punishment in his lifetime.
Jan Hus, Bohemian priest who preached against the degeneracy of the Catholic Church and eventually got burnt at the stake for his preaching.
Martin Luther, the famous German reformator, who ultimately succeeded not in reforming the Church but forming the Protestant Church.
John Calvin, who set up a Protestant theocracy in Geneva where he ruled over his Puritan state.
All of the above where religious reformers who attacked the teachings of the Catholic Church and the power of the Pope.
The odd one out in my opinion is Jan Hus, because he was the only one to be executed and not to meet a natural death. The problem with the odd one out questions is that there are more than one possible answer, so I accepted any other logical argument.
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
Now I would warmly welcome a discussion of the quiz and my answers. I would like to know which questions you thought were particularly fun, difficult or original, and how you worked out some of the questions, especially the picture questions. What were the deciding clues and how did you arrive at your answer? Until luceafarul sets up his new quiz feel free to discuss and post your comments.
Richard Cribb
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Well, I suppose I would not be completely objective if I praised your quiz, but I will do it anyway.
Very nice association questions and use of illustrations.
The only problem I see with it is that it is a tough act to follow.
I also hope so, especially since I have failed to generate any great interest on earlier quizes.
I will hopefully have mine up on Tuesday, and Ram; I am sorry, but this unfortunately means that my other project
viking: ) must be put on ice for the moment.
Very nice association questions and use of illustrations.
The only problem I see with it is that it is a tough act to follow.Ciceronian said:
I also hope so, especially since I have failed to generate any great interest on earlier quizes.
I will hopefully have mine up on Tuesday, and Ram; I am sorry, but this unfortunately means that my other project
viking: ) must be put on ice for the moment.sydhe
King of Kongs
I had a lot of fun with it, and I'm mad at myself for not getting #1, since I'm a fan of Leibniz. For some reason Newton didn't look like Newton to me.
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
Thankyou! I'm sure you'll follow it up with a good quiz too. If you spend 3 to 4 hours making it, it should be good quality.luceafarul said:Very nice association questions and use of illustrations.
I think this question was clearly biased towards Germans, since Leibniz biscuits are very popular in Germany and are quite a giveaway for most Germans. And I agree Newton looked a bit odd, but the apple gave it away. "Gravity was notioned by the fall of an apple."sydhe said:
jeriko one
Exalted Fleetlord
It was a great quiz. I got the PM thing wrong at first but it finished well after all. I think the 1st and 4th questions were out of my league so no need to cry. I am looking forward to the next quiz.
I am looking forward to the next quiz.
Are Leibniz biscuits *really* named after Leibniz? I always assumed it was a coincidence. How did this come about? By the way, I'd certainly disagree with the assessment of Voltaire's "Candide" as a "brilliant" mockery of Leibniz' views - on the contrary, I'd say it's a good indicator of how little Voltaire understood Leibniz. Leibniz is probably the most consistently misinterpreted philosopher of all time, which is saying something.
As for the Reformers, I think it's worth pointing out that Luther, at least, never intended to attack the Pope - of the four, Calvin was the only one who chose to leave the Catholic Church. It's also far from clear whether Calvin's Geneva was literally a "theocracy" - it remained ruled by the council, not by Calvin, and it certainly wasn't Puritan, at least, since Puritanism was an English-speaking movement. Poor old Calvin gets blamed for rather a lot of stuff that wasn't really his fault too.
I was annoyed not to notice that we were meant to name the grey countries on the African map, since I was more sure about them than about any of the others!
As for the Reformers, I think it's worth pointing out that Luther, at least, never intended to attack the Pope - of the four, Calvin was the only one who chose to leave the Catholic Church. It's also far from clear whether Calvin's Geneva was literally a "theocracy" - it remained ruled by the council, not by Calvin, and it certainly wasn't Puritan, at least, since Puritanism was an English-speaking movement. Poor old Calvin gets blamed for rather a lot of stuff that wasn't really his fault too.
I was annoyed not to notice that we were meant to name the grey countries on the African map, since I was more sure about them than about any of the others!
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Outstanding quiz. But if you spent 4 hours it will ever be great, Ciceronian.
Adler
Adler
Till
Adventurer
Thank you for your efforts Ciceronian! It was a lot of fun.
(And i am such a blockhead for not recognizing Calvin and Hus. D'oh -_- )
Can't wait for the next one!
(And i am such a blockhead for not recognizing Calvin and Hus. D'oh -_- )
Can't wait for the next one!
Ciceronian
Latin Scholar
I read somewhere (not sure where) that Leibniz biscuits are named after Wilhelm Gottfried. Mozartkugeln came to be just the same way: the creator of the sweet thought his creations would sell better if he called them after Mozart, who was famous in Salzburg. Similarly I would imagine a confectionist in Leipzig say named his biscuits after one of the most famous sons of the city.Plotinus said:
I'm sceptical of Voltaire too, and would agree that his criticism of Leibniz was not fully justified. However, I still find his Monadology slightly pointless and ungrounded.Plotinus said:
As far as I know Luther and Melanchton attacked the concept of the infallibilty of the Pope and his luxurious lifestyle, since they also claimed that the money the Church made from forgiving peoples' sins went into letting the Pope live in splendour.Plotinus said:
I'd still say Calvin's state was a theocracy, since it was ruled by a council of priests and the underlying feature of the state was that it based itself first and foremost on God. Mind you, I'm not saying this was at all negative - the word theocracy has negatvie connotations today. And yes, I understand what Puritanism was about and that it originated in the English-speaking world... but Calvin's state was "puritanical" in the way the More's "Utopia" was.
Well, then hypothetically add 2 points to your score afterwards, or hit yourself on the head for being daft!Plotinus said:
Richard Cribb
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Who understands or understood whom or what demands a discussion about topics I rarely discuss on principle, which is why I just stated this in a PM written in a certain hurry.Plotinus said:
There is almost 20 years since I studied philosophy, but I remember enough to know that making any statement on who is the most misinterpreted philosopher is quite a pointless exercise. Not that I ever knew every philosopher anyway.
And regarding Voltaire, even he is certainly not my ideal either as a person or as a thinker, his intellectually renovative effort can hardly be underestimated.
Oh, I will probably have to spend more than that. Planning, searching for saucy images, posting the whole bloody thing - tempus fugit!Ciceronian said:
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Tempus fugit. Sed tempus cum habaemus tempum non multum. Eo ludes consilium dare meis non bunus qui leceafaruli et Cicernoani sunt.
Adler
English: I don´t have much time so that my quizzes are not as good as luceafarul´s or Ciceronian´s.
Adler
English: I don´t have much time so that my quizzes are not as good as luceafarul´s or Ciceronian´s.
[Ciceronian] Fair enough. I'd correct you on one thing, though - Luther and Melanchthon (and indeed all the Reformers) were not protesting against the doctrine of Papal infallibility. Such a doctrine did not exist at that time. Rather, they were insisting upon the rather novel doctrine that the authority of the Pope, like that of the church, is inferior to that of the Bible.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
luceafarul said:and Ram; I am sorry, but this unfortunately means that my other project
Richard Cribb
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First my apology for posting this quiz a late.
Without any more ado, here it is:
1.These four pictures hints at a person. Who is the person(2 p)?
And now try to answer this:
Which city is the first picture from (1 p)?
Who is the woman on the last picture (1 p)? Hint: She was called "The Swedish nightingale".
2. Which countries fought the "Football War"(1p) and why was it called so (1p)?
3. What was the miracle of Czestochowa(2p)?
4. What event is depicted here(2 p)?
A central person in this event was this man
Who is he(1 p) and what was he called(1 p)?
5.Which famous artefact is it claimed that the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum contains(2 p)?
6.Who were the redstockings and why did they use this name(2 p)?
7. Which infamous person was called Citizen X (2 p)?
8. What was the Mannheim rocket (2 p)?
Without any more ado, here it is:
1.These four pictures hints at a person. Who is the person(2 p)?
And now try to answer this:
Which city is the first picture from (1 p)?
Who is the woman on the last picture (1 p)? Hint: She was called "The Swedish nightingale".
2. Which countries fought the "Football War"(1p) and why was it called so (1p)?
3. What was the miracle of Czestochowa(2p)?
4. What event is depicted here(2 p)?
A central person in this event was this man
Who is he(1 p) and what was he called(1 p)?
5.Which famous artefact is it claimed that the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion in Axum contains(2 p)?
6.Who were the redstockings and why did they use this name(2 p)?
7. Which infamous person was called Citizen X (2 p)?
8. What was the Mannheim rocket (2 p)?
Richard Cribb
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9. Below are the remains of a couple of buildings from an ancient city that once were an important site in a great empire. Which empire (1 p)? And this city is today most well known by a name on another language. What was the name of the city in its own language (2 p)?
10. Do you happen to know anything about Norse mythology? Fine, here is a couple of opportunities for scoring points.
a. The highest deity is Odin. Odin has only one eye. Why (2 p)?
b. What was the purpose of the valkyries (2 p)?
c. In what realm did humans live (1 p)?
d. What was the name of the tree that connected all nine worlds(1 p)?
e. And finally, what was Ragnarok (1 p)?
11. What is the name of the maker of this illustration(3 p)
and what country did he come from(1 p)?
12.
The following to verses is from a poem named "The poor man's burden" by George E. MCNeill
This was one of many responses to a poem named "The White Man's Burden". Which famous writer wrote that poem(1 p)?And what was the event that caused him to write this poem(2 p)?
13.The man below is a national hero of his country.
What was his name(2 p) and what did he do to gain this status(2 p)?
14. And finally a bonus question, another person(3 p)
Deadline for submitting is 20.09 18.00 CET. Good luck!
10. Do you happen to know anything about Norse mythology? Fine, here is a couple of opportunities for scoring points.
a. The highest deity is Odin. Odin has only one eye. Why (2 p)?
b. What was the purpose of the valkyries (2 p)?
c. In what realm did humans live (1 p)?
d. What was the name of the tree that connected all nine worlds(1 p)?
e. And finally, what was Ragnarok (1 p)?
11. What is the name of the maker of this illustration(3 p)
and what country did he come from(1 p)?
12.
The following to verses is from a poem named "The poor man's burden" by George E. MCNeill
This was one of many responses to a poem named "The White Man's Burden". Which famous writer wrote that poem(1 p)?And what was the event that caused him to write this poem(2 p)?
13.The man below is a national hero of his country.
What was his name(2 p) and what did he do to gain this status(2 p)?
14. And finally a bonus question, another person(3 p)
Deadline for submitting is 20.09 18.00 CET. Good luck!
Rambuchan
The Funky President
This looks juicey! 
EDIT: I believe there is a typo in Q10d. 'Three' should be 'tree' right?
EDIT: I believe there is a typo in Q10d. 'Three' should be 'tree' right?
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