Current Civ and Leader Abilities Elimination Thread.

[Felis Renidens]

America 10
Arabia 19
Australia 20
Aztec 22
Brazil 5
China 18
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Persia 2 = 5-3 - Another step in ridding the list of DLCs. Also I don't see myself using the surprise war bonus well (some think that wanting the top civs to be ones that I can play without throwing extra $$$ is not good enough reason).
Rome 12 = 11+1 - I see that's where the main battle is going and I'm team SPQR - free monuments and baths for all!
Russia 21
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Kimiimaro]

Poland 3-3=0=kaput: One of my favorites in Civ V. The religion game bores me. Die, Poland!

*Sigh* Well, I can do three things...
1, Strongly disagree.
2, Start worrying about Russia, Arabia, Germany and other great civs getting undeserved hate.
3, Keep killing the horrible Rome!

America 10
Arabia 19
Australia 20
Aztec 22
Brazil 5
China 18
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Persia 2
Rome 12-3=9 - Rome is worst here. Ximica- I mean Mori!
Russia 21+1=22 - Saving it before people start downvoting it as a "religious civ with situational bonuses".
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Orange1861]

America 10
Arabia 20 (19 + 1) Arabia is top tier as a civ, being able to balance everything well, should atleast be at 20.
Australia 20
Aztec 22
Brazil 2 (5 - 3) Weakest of the remaining civs, pretty weak other than it is easier to get great people.
China 18
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Persia 2
Rome 9
Russia 22
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Guandao]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 20
Aztec 22
Brazil (2-3)=0 and Brazil is eliminated! I don't get the Civ ability (why are rainforest providing more housing?) and it tells me little about Brazil other than they have rainforest. Pedro's Ability is fine but not a game changer.
China 18
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Persia 2
Rome (9+1)=10 While they might not be more powerful than many others civs left, I understand where they was going with both abilities. They reflect the infrastructure of Rome (the road systems, monuments). Sure, a more militaristic ability wouldn't hurt, but I feel like many Civs will have abilities relating to war (Scythia, Macedon, Persia, Gorgo's Greece partially, Sumeria, and likely the Mongols/Ottomans/Zulus etc)
Russia 22
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[gcareaga]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 20+1=21: outback stations, getting DoW'd production bonuses, terrain bonuses. Fun civ.
Aztec 22
China 18
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Persia 2-3=0 and eliminated. Really annoying leader.
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 21
Aztec 22
China 18 - 3 = 15 (No thanks - The extra 10% Eureka bonus is the only decent ability here but this pales in comparison to Macedon's freebies)
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 15
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Rome 10 + 1 = 1 (Early advantages for fast conquest with roads and Legions and built in border expansion and culture research with free monuments which I usually have to waste time building. Perfect expansion civ and the UD only adds to the power of your already well developed cities. Rome is a monster)
Russia 22
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Manifold]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 21
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 22
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 12 (15-3) loveless and week LUA
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Rome 12 (11+1) I guess we will get Scipio this time
Russia 22
Scythia 17
Sumeria 21

 

[Amrunril]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 21
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19 (22 - 3) The production bonus is potent (if bland) but Egypt's other uniques are fairly underwhelming.
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 12
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Rome 12
Russia 22
Scythia 18 (17 + 1) Doubling military production in the early game would be huge even if itdidn't apply to a unique unit with a free healing bonus.
Sumeria 21

 

[LethalLeigh]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 22 (21+1) because people are down voting, not based on their Abilities.
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 12
Kongo 11
Macedon 19
Rome 9 (12-3) nice Abilities but they are boring.
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Felis Renidens]

America 10
Arabia 20
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 12
Kongo 8 (11-3) - the most annoying of the remaining and have part of the game (and a victory condition) disabled from them.
Macedon 19
Rome 10 (9+1) - well, I stated the reasons before. Yesterday I managed to build Stonehenge with them which I don't usually bother to try. The free monuments gave me the ability to pick a government that will enable the feat (I had some other things in my favor). But that's just an example, the reasons are same as before.
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Siptah]

America 10
Arabia 21 (20+1) The abilities make this civ different to play from the rest and also very fun. And its strong, too. What do you want more?
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 6
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 9 (12-3) I'm a peaceful player in most games and the culture from killing units doesn't seem that strong for me. The wildcard slot is great of course.
Kongo 8
Macedon 19
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Guandao]

America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England (6-3)=3 Abilities only reflect the cultural and militaristic side of England/Britain. I just feel like they are a mid-tier civ
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 9
Kongo 8
Macedon (19+1)=20 I'm not a big warmonger, but the leader ability is kind of OP. And the Civ ability helps those who don't prioritize on science and culture while aiming for a domination victory
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Forster]

America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 3 + 1 = 4 On any world with water, England is a powerhouse.
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16
Greece - Sparta 9
Kongo 8 - 3 = 5 Not impressed.
Macedon 20
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Morningcalm]

America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 16 - 3 = 13 (Poor abilities, except for the ones shared with Sparta)
Greece - Sparta 9 + 1 = 10 (Sparta generates far more culture in the early-game, where culture matters most, IMO)
Kongo 5
Macedon 20
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15
Egypt 19
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 10 - 3 = 7 (I like Athens better and we need to get rid of one of these)
Kongo 5
Macedon 20
Rome 10 + 1 = 11 (I've given my reasons. Rome is top tier IMO)
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Kimiimaro]

America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 15+1=16 - Chinese early game wonder spam is increddible! One bonus charge for Builders can save you a lot of money and cogs. 60% Eurekas and Inspirations can help you through whole game. Little bonus, but take all those policies and techs you can boost with Eureka and Inspirations... If there is any top tier civ, it's China.
Egypt 19
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 5
Macedon 20
Rome 11-3=8 - Low tier civ. Mori!
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Amrunril]

Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 10 - 3 = 7 (I like Athens better and we need to get rid of one of these)

If the goal is to create a ranking, I'd argue that trying to get rid of one doesn't make much sense. They share 3/4 of their abilities, so they should probably end up ranking fairly close to one another.


America 10
Arabia 21
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16 (19 - 3) The production bonus is Egypt's only particularly strong ability, and it's is weaker than the production bonuses Germany and Australia get, as well as the Aztec district rushing ability.
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 5
Macedon 20
Rome 9 (8 + 1) Civ games are largely won through the foundation you're able to build in the early game, and Rome is better at this than anyone else.
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Orange1861]

America 10
Arabia 22 (21 + 1) Said in a previous post.
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 5
Macedon 17 (20 - 3) As I said in a previous post, too much "win more"
Rome 9
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Felis Renidens]

America 10
Arabia 22
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 2 - Well, that most annoying civ is nearly gone now. A little more effort and we will be rid of the civ that is denied a part of the game.
Macedon 17
Rome 10 - Again I come to the defense of Rome. Every city they plant increases their culture output and immediately starts gaining land.
Russia 22
Scythia 18
Sumeria 21

 

[Siptah]

America 7 (10-3) certainly not weak, but it feels too vanilla and too passive. I like the NP thing though and that they chose the film studio.
Arabia 22
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 2
Macedon 17
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 19 (18+1) the healing makes it the best civ for a religious victory. Of course, the horse ability is quite strong, but not as fun.
Sumeria 21