Dakota Fanning to be Raped.

[Bozo Erectus]

They can make a very powerful movie about the subject matter, without actually showing her naked and being raped. Its just more of our societys lurid and hypocritical fascination with the sexuality of children. Thanks to all the hype and controversy surrounding it, the theaters will be packed. The makers of the film might as well have put out ads saying "See a pretty little girl naked and being raped! The beauty of it is that after you leave the theater, you can tell everyone how offensive the movie was! Come one, come all!"

 

[C~G]

Exactly my thoughts Bozo, exactly.

In the future we'll be seeing this kind of movies more and more.
Because it's simple fact that the level of shock value must rise or people will get bored.
However the real issues behind the films will be very quickly forgotten.

 

[IglooDame]

The real issue behind the shocker in this movie being... Elvis saves?

 

[C~G]

Elvis saves?

Well, the music is known to be good way for relaxing and therapy so you could think that listening Elvis gives this young girl hope for the better and for the future. It gets you through of many things and able to get touch with your feelings, and possible handle difficult traumas.

Don't ever underestimate the power of music.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Exactly my thoughts Bozo, exactly.

In the future we'll be seeing this kind of movies more and more.
Because it's simple fact that the level of shock value must rise or people will get bored.
However the real issues behind the films will be very quickly forgotten.

I'll give you a perfect example. A recent newspaper article I read. It was about a guy who had been arrested for having sex with an underage girl. Instead of just saying "Mr. Soandso was arrested for engaging in sexual activity with a minor" this is what they said: "Mr. Soandso was arrested for engaging in sexual activity with a minor. The underage minor performed an oral sex act on him, and used her hand" or words to that effect. The line between news reporting and blatant titillation and voyeurism is virtually non existent in the media when it comes to this sort of thing.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

Wasn't there similar distaste when Jodie Foster was in Taxi Driver?

I think I'll give this movie a miss. Not enough Mutants blowing stuff up

 

[Kozmos]

"See a pretty little girl naked and being raped! The beauty of it is that after you leave the theater, you can tell everyone how offensive the movie was! Come one, come all!"

Ka-ching! I'm sold!

Also doesnt anyone remember the Elvis the Domestic Advisor in Civ 2, he was by far my favourite.

Elvis: Sir the people, they cant stop loving you. Ohhhh yeah!

 

[Masquerouge]

Cool. The movie is not out yet, and they have all the publicity they could wish for - and more.

 

[Elrohir]

And acting out being violently murdered is better?

Actually, yes. Even having her killed in a rather grousome way - say, having the guy cut her throat with a knife - wouldn't be terrible traumatizing, considering how they shoot these things. It'd probably be a plastic blade and it'd be up against her throat for all of two seconds, and then the whole scene is over - the rest is special affects. But stripping down in a room full of adults, and pretetending to be violated and raped is just plain disturbing, and would, I imagine, be a much more traumatizing experience than merely pretending to be "murdered".

This whole thing just strikes me as intensely repugnant and disgusting. And that people will go see this moving, knowing what they're going to see is at least as disgusting as what's actually being shown.

 

[mdwh]

Actually, yes. Even having her killed in a rather grousome way - say, having the guy cut her throat with a knife - wouldn't be terrible traumatizing, considering how they shoot these things.

And "considering how they shoot these things" applies to this case too.

Without seeing the film or a detailed description, it's hard to know whether it's going to involved "stripping down in a room full of adults, and pretetending to be violated and raped". All we know is she will "appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments".

 

[Elrohir]

So being "naked" or "clad only in underpants" doesn't count as "stripping down"? And I assume that those are human adults filming the cameras and directing, not robots or children?

We can quibble about the details if you wish, but it still sounds disgusting and repulsive to me.

 

[ChrTh]

Um, am I the only person who watched A Time to Kill? A *nine* year old gets raped at the start of the film.

On Leon: There was some controversy about the pedo overtones of Leon and Interview with the Vampire (both out about the same time), but only a couple news articles. No real concentrated outrage though.

On this movie: I'm more concerned that they're going to show the killing of animals.

 

[CaptainF]

So being "naked" or "clad only in underpants" doesn't count as "stripping down"? And I assume that those are human adults filming the cameras and directing, not robots or children?

We can quibble about the details if you wish, but it still sounds disgusting and repulsive to me.

I find it disgusting and repulsive that you wish for the government to crack down on the film industry, but thats me.

You are an anti-big government conservative are you not?

 

[Simon Darkshade]

It could be Elvis saving her in the same fashion that he defeated that mummy with the help of black JFK.

 

[El_Machinae]

There was a movie where Keifer Sutherland rapes a girl. It nearly made me puke. I don't even remember what was shown on screen, but it certainly traumatised me.

A Time to Kill nearly made me vomit the first time I saw it too. But when I saw it a second time, I realised how much was merely implied.

 

[Kozmos]

There was a movie where Keifer Sutherland rapes a girl. It nearly made me puke. I don't even remember what was shown on screen, but it certainly traumatised me.

A Time to Kill nearly made me vomit the first time I saw it too. But when I saw it a second time, I realised how much was merely implied.

Wow I dont think I've been ever made to puke by visual and audio stimulation. The smell of vomit however once almost got me. But I've grown accoustmed to it. (drinking parties = vomit everywhere )

 

[El_Machinae]

I've never actually puked, but the gorge was certainly there.

My brother puked during Ronin, but he was (I think) 11 at the time.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

My brother puked during Ronin, but he was (I think) 11 at the time.

During Ronin? That movie is not explicit at all.

 

[Elrohir]

I find it disgusting and repulsive that you wish for the government to crack down on the film industry, but thats me.

You are an anti-big government conservative are you not?

Where did I say that I wanted the government to "crack down" on the film industry? I'd like a quote on that, as I don't recall saying it. I believe what I said was, that social services should investigate the circumstances this girl lives in, and whether this was traumatizing. The film industry has a right to want to make this movie, and can make a movie about any subject matter it wants to - however, I believe they could do this, as Bozo said, by treating the matter delicately, without actually showing the rape.

As it is, this sounds like an absolutely repulsive movie. No matter how beautiful or good or interesting the rest of the movie is, the fact that such a disgusting scene is in it ruins it.

 

[tomsnowman123]

/shrug. I've seen A Clockwork Orange, and, while it may not have had an eleven year old being raped, it was pretty darn graphic.

Frankly, I don't find this quite as disturbing as others. Sure, I don't know how anyone could let their kid go through with this, and it seems a little...weird, but if everyone consents, I am not going to stop you. Free speech must prevail.

I can't say I would ever recommend this idea to any other pre-teen girls, and, on the one hand, I don't know how this can't have some effect on Fanning. Oh well, there are worse things in the world.

Oh, and puke during a movie? Never seen that before...