Darths and Droids Mafia- Game Thread

[Backwards Logic]

They're mafia, that's all I know.

And you still didn't answer why you're the best choice for the Orb.

I'm the best choice because it's the only way you'll conclusively not get it until you are proven to not be a third-party scum team, which I'm starting to have severe doubts you're not.

As for your claims on who's who (ie, Xenoneb and Gone 3 the Celt are conclusively mafia), there's some issues. Specifically, you start with this:

Xenoneb and Gone 3 the Celt are the last two scumbags on their team.

Immediately implying they are Trade Federation. Therefore, one of them has to be Grievous.

Moving further, Jarrema was targeted by Grievous. You're saying TBK was targeted by a mafia team. Putting these things together, you're concluding that the Trade Federation team has two night kills (one Grievous, one of either TBK or Celt).

Except when I asked you point-blank on whether Grievous is one or the other, you state:

They're mafia, that's all I know.

So you make this case, but you're not willing to back it up with one of them being Grievous, despite everything you've stated basically saying one of them is. As I see things this appears like a power-play of sorts, designed to buy time while you convert mech to your side, earn more townie points, while getting your hands on the Orb.

And you have a scanner that gives conclusive 'yes he's mafia' or 'no he's not,' yet won't tell you the role? Seems overpowered and far-fetched. Maybe I'm wrong a choxorn did put in a 'true' detective, but I'm finding that hard to believe.

 

[Mergle]

unvote I am no longer sure whether Mechaerik is the best lynch choice, and I am going to think some more before I decide, so abstain until further notice.

Not the first time you've abstained. You did the same when Darth Caesar (who claimed, and indeed was, vengeful) was up for the lynch, removing your vote from his nearest rival, thus increasing the likelihood he'd be lynched while ensuring you couldn't be hit by the vengeful strike. Not ultra-townie.

And if you were a vig, targetting the Black Knigh (who doesn't seem to be giving off clear vibes either way) while mechaerik was screamingly the obvious target... nope, not buying it. I agree with Zack that you and your fake-scan friend Xenoneb are probably mafia.

However, I'm most concerned about mechaerik. Zack has been obviously Palpatine for quite a while, so mech's claims (which had to be drawn out of him) seem just as handy a concoction as Xenoneb's. Anakin is the clearest baddie in the comic, and I don't buy the "he's a good guy now palpatine's inserted a control chip". I give you:
http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0773.html
and
http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0774.html

The guy blew up Naboo! (comic posted last august, so available when choxorn wrote this game).

So, no, not buying town-friendliness post-Palpatine. And if he hasn't been killing, what else has he been up to? Darkside corruption? Hence my cult suspicion. We need to know now. So I'm keeping my vote on mechaerik.

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

And if you were a vig, targetting the Black Knigh (who doesn't seem to be giving off clear vibes either way) while mechaerik was screamingly the obvious target... nope, not buying it. I agree with Zack that you and your fake-scan friend Xenoneb are probably

Fine, then vote for me.

Also, Zack told me to target TBK, and I followed his order, but did not change it when he gave me an alternative. While Mech does appear mafia, NinjaCow was also acting strange, and NinjaCow turned innocent. TBK, on the other hand, is possibly one of the last lurkers in this game. Seeing as I thought we would lynch Mech tonight, I tried to off another scum and get his partner in the day phase.

 

[Zack]

Backwards Logic, that's not what I asked. You keep saying why I shouldn't get it; I'm asking why YOU should.

EDIT: Gone 3 the Celt, almost exactly 48 hours ago I sent you a PM with subject title "kill" and body text "mechaerik". I don't know how that could have been any clearer.

EDIT2: Xenoneb is a better lynch today than mechaerik, although that by no means clears mecha.

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

While Mech does appear mafia, NinjaCow was also acting strange, and NinjaCow turned innocent. TBK, on the other hand, is possibly one of the last lurkers in this game. Seeing as I thought we would lynch Mech tonight, I tried to off another scum and get his partner in the day phase.

My reasoning. Just as clear as your PM title.

 

[Zack]

Why do you assume they're partners?

 

[Backwards Logic]

Backwards Logic, that's not what I asked. You keep saying why I shouldn't get it; I'm asking why YOU should.

Apparently, 'so you won't get it' isn't enough. Considering I don't see any other canonical uses for it outside of powering the Peace Moon, it's fairly obvious I can't use it for anything. It'll be like CivGeneral has it all over again, except this time the guy holding it is active.

mechaerik. If Xenoneb is such a threat to you, roleblock him, Peace Moon him, I don't care. If I'm right, I'd prefer you not have a convert.

 

[Zack]

I can't Peace Moon him without the Orb, silly.

 

[Backwards Logic]

I can't Peace Moon him without the Orb, silly.

So, one and done without the Orb, huh?

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

[COLOR="Blue]Unvote;vote:Backwards Logic[/COLOR]

Seeing as no one will give it to me, I'll vote for BL.

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

unvote;vote:Backwards Logic

 

[Backwards Logic]

So, now Zack is threatening me with death behind the scenes. Yesterday, he asked me if I had a beard. I told him I'm not really sure how to answer it given my faint 5 'o clock shadow. I expected him to follow up and push for more info as my response was deliberately vague - I wanted to see how he'd push. Nothing for the remainder of the day.

Fast forward to today, I post my suspicions against him, and now he comes at me with threats. Basically as he put it, unknown entities are being killed off and I'm one of the few remaining. I naturally stonewall him and he counters with an 'are you useful, or are you dead' line. Basically, I tell him to scan me - after all, he said he has one of those, right? He continues to deflect. I ask him why it took so long to follow up on his question from yesterday. More deflection.

So for my reveal, before he concocts some story of how I'm not helping and am scum. My role is Captain Antilles. Go ahead and look him up, you'll see a faint shadow of a beard. My ability is nothing glamorous, but very useful. Basically once I'm dead, I can continue voting as if I'm alive. Sounds tacky, but considering once I'm dead my town alignment will be revealed - there will be no doubts to who I am.

So the rest of the town has a choice. Vote along with Zack, give him the Orb and watch him kill everyone one of you under the guise 'you're an unknown.' Vote along with me, and we can find out specifically what Zack is up to, because everything I've seen today points to him not being town. It's not definitive (hence why the vote stays on mech), but he's certainly looking that way.

 

[Zack]

My role is Captain Antilles. Go ahead and look him up, you'll see a faint shadow of a beard. My ability is nothing glamorous, but very useful. Basically once I'm dead, I can continue voting as if I'm alive.

What a convenient cover role.

Why the witch hunt against me, Backwards? You keep trying to lump me in with mechaerik, while conveniently forgetting that I tried to blast him into dust with the Peace Moon. You say I shouldn't have the Orb because I'm in cahoots with mecha (blatantly false) and untrustworthy; meanwhile, you claim you should have the Orb because you're not me. What reason is there to trust you?

The town network is very large and expansive in this game. I am the only person who knows all of the cogs and communicates directly with them. Think long and hard before you try and lead a wagon against me, if you're town -- if I die, the town network could very well collapse.

Additionally, the only reason I even know the scanner's identity is because he/she scanned me as town and contacted me.

 

[Backwards Logic]

No, I say you shouldn't have the Orb because you could be the third scum team that most people (myself included) think exists. Assuming you are third-party, I think when you blasted mech with the moon and forced his reveal, it revealed a convert to your side - after all, mech was looking for you. You even said yourself you didn't think mech was town. You may have wanted to kill him before you knew that info, but now I think you want to keep him around. Now, I see the Xenoneb wagon, while having merit, as a way to finalize mechs conversion. He's been roleblocked, so he'd need time to do his thing. Lynching Xenoneb instead of him buys that time.

I never said anything about leading a wagon against you. I want to know what your deal is beforehand. Maybe I'm 100% wrong and you are town, and mech will flip town if he converts himself to your side. Until I see proof of this third team existing, and that you have a direct hand in exposing and removing one of them, I will continue to be extremely hesitant on giving you super powers in the form of a fully-operation peace moon and a wildcard convert in mech. It sounds to me you have the means to do just this without gaining a peace moon kill. Yet you want it so bad as to threaten me behind the scenes when I voice opposition to it.

 

[Buddhafish]

Zack for the Orb

Abstain on the vote.

 

[Zack]

Yet you want it so bad as to threaten me behind the scenes when I voice opposition to it.

Nah, you're just one of like four people not involved in the town network in some way.

 

[SamSniped]

By the way, I scanned Vote: Mechaerik's PG. It is to convert Palpatine to his side.

Also, Azzaman.

 

[Ravus_Sol]

Wow, I go to sleep and the whole town starts pointing fingers, even one at me for my apparant support of Zack. I'm pretty sure i've always stated that Palpatine is neutral and thus has a higher chance of being pro-town then a lot of others. But I've never been slavish.

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So lets start with the obvious. Why the hell is there dispute over the orb? I never said Zack should get it, I always assumed the Peace Moon had a one shot or a recharge time before it could be used and the orb will solve that. We have three choices from how it has shaped up, Zack, Backwards Logic, or Azzaman.

HOW CAN WE NOT VOTE FOR AZZAMAN?! Seriously people. Even if you distrust Zack why would you give it to Backwards Logic when Azzaman is there? His entire shtick this game is that he is town. No powers, just Mason trustworthiness. I don't understand how this is even a thing.

Nope.
I am the one, who inherited breathing device (among other things) from my mother

Jaremma claimed Adam Lars / Luke Starkiller AGES ago. He was also posting as though his player was a computer geek. Luke is a crazy survivalist and can survive in desert, swamp, forest and ice lands. He inherited his mothers breathing apparatus. Ergo I can totally believe he gets a "survive once" ability.

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As for G3G, he has obviously been Yoda and the Vig for AGES. I questioned his comment on "who killed my friend Chewie" after HE killed him. He hasn't exactly been subtle. If that wasn't enough the killer of Chewie was a guy half his size wielding a lightsaber. Seriously did no one else get this but me?

Yoda is a obvious town character, which is why I have always assumed he was town. Yoda is a tad crazy from his blood transfusion in the comic so I did suspect that he had some kind of Crazy-Vig thing and would sometimes attack someone random. But still a townie.

So, no, not buying town-friendliness post-Palpatine. And if he hasn't been killing, what else has he been up to? Darkside corruption? Hence my cult suspicion. We need to know now. So I'm keeping my vote on mechaerik.

So you are saying that Mech is a Cult who converts Jedi into Sith? That is a disturbing supposition. Especially as G3G is Jedi Yoda and I've been assuming backwards logic was Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn for awhile.

So for my reveal, before he concocts some story of how I'm not helping and am scum. My role is Captain Antilles. Go ahead and look him up, you'll see a faint shadow of a beard. My ability is nothing glamorous, but very useful. Basically once I'm dead, I can continue voting as if I'm alive. Sounds tacky, but considering once I'm dead my town alignment will be revealed - there will be no doubts to who I am.

I don't think your claim for Antilles is good if you have a beard.

He has a "slight" moustache.

Meanwhile, I told the scanner to take a look at Xenoneb. Turns out, he's mafia.

You havn't been wrong yet and If I'm right about who the scanner is then I trust them too.

Vote: Xenoneb

 

[Gone 3 the Celt]

Azzaman Basically I just don't want Zack to have the orb, and Azzaman has the most votes besides Zack himself.

 

[Backwards Logic]

Jango got lynched because of a five 'o clock shadow. Honestly, I had/have no idea how to answer if I have a beard or not. And look by the chin and helmet straps - there's stubble there.

And there's nothing stopping Azzaman from giving it to Zack which I honestly see happening. Thus the vote for me.