GhostWriter16
Deity
OK, this thread is to do two things, to be a poll to see who supports death as punishment under what circumstances and to debate the topic.
Alright, I do understand the opinions for and against death in general for punishment. I also am pointing out there's a lot of scripture in favor of the death penalty. As most of you don't recognize the Bible as valid I will keep those out of my argument. If you do believe the Bible or am willing to accept the Bible as evidence I will add them.
First, I ask this: To the generally opposing or always opposing:
I understand people make mistakes. I mean both the cold-blooded killer might not have premeditated the crime and it might have been a decent person who got angry at the wrong time. While I do not support withholding justice, which demands murders should die IMO, I understand the opinion that they are decent people that made a bad decision, and I understand why society might not want to kill them. As for premeditated murder, in general, I understand even still you might preach rehabilitation or not be willing to kill on "Reasonable doubt."
However, what should be done to cold-blooded killers like Hitler and Stalin, had we captured them, or someone like Osama Bin Laden. We know not beyond reasonable doubt, but beyond all doubt that they were guilty of heinous crimes. If God can save them (He can but part of me kinda hopes he won't, even though its wrong) he can save them on their way to death. Do you support letting them rot behind bars for the rest of their lives, and making the families millions they made suffer pay taxes so that they can live, even if uncomfortably?
As for other murderers, while I sort of understand the anti-death crowds views, I'd like to see some of them so I can see if I can refute them. I'd also like reinforcement for the pro-death position if you do support it.
EDIT: I'm more or less #7, except I think assault and armed robbery can mandate it depending on circumstances, and mass treachery such as the CSA shouldn't get death (If you call it treachery, but don't debate that.)
Alright, I do understand the opinions for and against death in general for punishment. I also am pointing out there's a lot of scripture in favor of the death penalty. As most of you don't recognize the Bible as valid I will keep those out of my argument. If you do believe the Bible or am willing to accept the Bible as evidence I will add them.
First, I ask this: To the generally opposing or always opposing:
I understand people make mistakes. I mean both the cold-blooded killer might not have premeditated the crime and it might have been a decent person who got angry at the wrong time. While I do not support withholding justice, which demands murders should die IMO, I understand the opinion that they are decent people that made a bad decision, and I understand why society might not want to kill them. As for premeditated murder, in general, I understand even still you might preach rehabilitation or not be willing to kill on "Reasonable doubt."
However, what should be done to cold-blooded killers like Hitler and Stalin, had we captured them, or someone like Osama Bin Laden. We know not beyond reasonable doubt, but beyond all doubt that they were guilty of heinous crimes. If God can save them (He can but part of me kinda hopes he won't, even though its wrong) he can save them on their way to death. Do you support letting them rot behind bars for the rest of their lives, and making the families millions they made suffer pay taxes so that they can live, even if uncomfortably?
As for other murderers, while I sort of understand the anti-death crowds views, I'd like to see some of them so I can see if I can refute them. I'd also like reinforcement for the pro-death position if you do support it.
EDIT: I'm more or less #7, except I think assault and armed robbery can mandate it depending on circumstances, and mass treachery such as the CSA shouldn't get death (If you call it treachery, but don't debate that.)
