What AZ says, as soon as you have a unit that is superior on open field to what the AI has, you are in no danger at all. That is basically the whole secret behind winning a Deity game, you can abuse the city hugging (and splitting their defenses to cities miles away..).
Deity please! #3
- Thread starter GKey
- Start date
AbsoluteZero
Deity
If I hit sleep then usually I don't want to be bothered with that unit for a while. If I hit heal then I want to use the unit as soon as it's finished healing. These two buttons do mostly the same thing and so I sometimes just hit rest when I mean heal and vice-versa.
ABigCivFan
Emperor
updates to ~1100AD
not sure why i could not upload a save (says upload failed)
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not sure why i could not upload a save (says upload failed)
@ABigCivFan Looks good.
You guys love farming matured villages/towns, do you?
In my game Uruk was good fin city as it was (it had Academy though).
There is a problem with uploading saves right now. You can use some 3rd party files host service and put link in your post.
You guys love farming matured villages/towns, do you?
In my game Uruk was good fin city as it was (it had Academy though).There is a problem with uploading saves right now. You can use some 3rd party files host service and put link in your post.
Fun map and good thread; dont give in too quickly GKey!
More players may be playing and following, but not posting due to whatever reason, than you realise the starting save has some 50 views by now.
Part 1: Barbarism and music
Part 2: Horses with boom-sticks
More players may be playing and following, but not posting due to whatever reason, than you realise the starting save has some 50 views by now.
Part 1: Barbarism and music
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Part 2: Horses with boom-sticks
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AbsoluteZero
Deity
@turncoat
Good attempt, Better to attack earlier with cuirs that way you have a lot of time till you meet enemy rifles I've found. Sometimes on these 1 continent type maps Diplo can screw you too.
@Gkey
Willem is one of my favorite civs, and that looks like a nice start
Good attempt, Better to attack earlier with cuirs that way you have a lot of time till you meet enemy rifles I've found. Sometimes on these 1 continent type maps Diplo can screw you too.
@Gkey
Willem is one of my favorite civs, and that looks like a nice start
whats a navy
Prince
I'd loved to play that next start. I was going to give this a go put multiplayer is so addicting.
Deity please! #4 is up!
Dirk1302
Deity
Played until 1130 AD
What's with the save upload functionality, it doesn't work anymore?
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What's with the save upload functionality, it doesn't work anymore?
ABigCivFan
Emperor
Updates to 1260AD
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Dirk1302
Deity
^Convincing
I see Civfanatics is aware of the problems with file upload, hope they fix it soon. Imageshack is great for pictures but you can't host saves there.
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I see Civfanatics is aware of the problems with file upload, hope they fix it soon. Imageshack is great for pictures but you can't host saves there.
vranasm
Deity
have a question. If you make elepult warfare do you use cats as suicide or is the ele strength so high that you can attack without collateral?
I saw in the ABigCivfan stack something like 8 cats. From my experience after 2 cities i wouldn't have enough siege with suicide
I saw in the ABigCivfan stack something like 8 cats. From my experience after 2 cities i wouldn't have enough siege with suicide
Dirk1302
Deity
i usually use 2 cats first, second sometimes survives. Then phants have usually >70% and i'm beginning to take out top defenders with them. Sometimes after phants i use cats again but now they're winning, then other units mop up.
Sacking cats when phants are > 70% is a bit of a waste imo. Phant is only 10H more than a cat so losing one is not that much worse than losing a cat. And it was my stack btw
. ABCF shot for lib and went with curis.
8 cats is reasonable for initial assault but you have to keep making reinforcements as i did. I really had 0% trouble this war.
Sacking cats when phants are > 70% is a bit of a waste imo. Phant is only 10H more than a cat so losing one is not that much worse than losing a cat. And it was my stack btw
. ABCF shot for lib and went with curis. 8 cats is reasonable for initial assault but you have to keep making reinforcements as i did. I really had 0% trouble this war.
vranasm
Deity
Phants vs archers are fine, but vs longbows you usually need siege. Watch how "AbsoluteWhipping" handles this - there is no such a thing not enough siege.
well different people have different techniques. I think I overuse the siege a bit based on the description from Dirk and then happen to have "not enough".
That's probably why I suck with siege warfare and get better results with mobile cavs/tanks warfare
It comes to luck at some point.
Suicide 2 cats - My main force got 60% chance to get these longbows. Question - suicide 1 more or attack? Mathematically you should attack, but to me 60% chance = I will sure lose. So it comes to amount of redundant forces - can you afford lose some? How many?
And here Absolutewhipping's tactic can't fail you.
On the other hand I just can't stand sometimes keep whipping cities working decent tiles.
Would be nice to see less cruel but not less efficient techniques.
Suicide 2 cats - My main force got 60% chance to get these longbows. Question - suicide 1 more or attack? Mathematically you should attack, but to me 60% chance = I will sure lose. So it comes to amount of redundant forces - can you afford lose some? How many?
And here Absolutewhipping's tactic can't fail you.
On the other hand I just can't stand sometimes keep whipping cities working decent tiles.
Would be nice to see less cruel but not less efficient techniques.
Dirk1302
Deity
@vranasm, vs longbows you need significantly more siege. Also you have to monitor the defenders closely. There's often one or 2 heavily promoted longbows. This can cost you loads of cats without them seriously making a dent. Better to sack one or 2 c2 phants against these to soften them up, then return to cat collateral. Fighting against protective lb's on hill is definitely no fun party.
@GKey, i haven't seen AZ's video's yet. I whip a lot myself but i tend to plan in advance that i have grown cities so big that they keep on working key tiles at all times. In this game i whipped that cow/corn/horse/double phant city several times but never below size 5. Most of the whipping was done in the south western cities that only had 2-3 good tiles at first as i didn't have time to get mines up early there .
I think if you plan a cat phant war well you should generally succeed because the window of opportunity is so large.The strain on the economy is very big though, it usually takes some time to recover, more than after a war chariot rush for instance.Consequently a stalemate where you have to sue for peace should absolutely be avoided, your new cities will be worthless due to cultural pressure and you will have to build new units to take the rest of the cities, the deity ai will have new units as well and it'll all end in tears. So i think you should attack with overwhelming force in these sort of wars.
@GKey, i haven't seen AZ's video's yet. I whip a lot myself but i tend to plan in advance that i have grown cities so big that they keep on working key tiles at all times. In this game i whipped that cow/corn/horse/double phant city several times but never below size 5. Most of the whipping was done in the south western cities that only had 2-3 good tiles at first as i didn't have time to get mines up early there .
I think if you plan a cat phant war well you should generally succeed because the window of opportunity is so large.The strain on the economy is very big though, it usually takes some time to recover, more than after a war chariot rush for instance.Consequently a stalemate where you have to sue for peace should absolutely be avoided, your new cities will be worthless due to cultural pressure and you will have to build new units to take the rest of the cities, the deity ai will have new units as well and it'll all end in tears. So i think you should attack with overwhelming force in these sort of wars.
