Deity Warmongers

works for me.

Will they give us techs if we can't hurt them, though? I have run into problems with that in the past - taking the last city on a continent and having to sail to them to scare them again? maybe that was an isolated incident. ironically, that was as ottomans, against carthage, in a PTW deity game ;)
 
I think the courthouses were prebuilds for marketplaces as we should be getting currency next turn since republic will be done.
 
they were, cause I didnt' really think we needed more settlers or swords... but I think glen made a good choice, cause saldae getting wiped out.

and I agree that you can take down carthage in anarchy without a problem, with the forces you have.
 
Alright, I'm going back in. I'll get republic in and I'll trade for any other techs I can get. I'll see what I can do to finish off Carthage as well.
 
IBT
Republic In, Science to Poly for now
Sword defends against a Horsie (15-2)
Istanbul Settler->Settler
Mugla Library->Sword

30AD (4)
Karabuk Founded->Library
Everyone has Republic except India and Carthage
Trade Gandhi Republic for Construction and 2 gold
Trade Montezuma Furs, 50g, and 7GPT for Wines
Trade Temujin Furs for 8g and 6GPT

IBT
Nada

50AD (5)
Elite Horsie kills an Archer (16-2)
Our Galley is sunk by Carthage (16-3)

IBT
Our Horsie impales an Archer and we get another leader!!!! (17-3)

70AD (6)
The Battle for Utica
Elite Sword falls to a NM (17-4)
Elite Sword gets revenge (18-4)
Elite Horsie kills a NM (19-4)
Utica_Falls.JPG

Sword kills a NM near Konya (20-4)

IBT
Horsie defends against an Archer (21-4)

90AD (7)
Horsie Kills NM (22-4)
Cankiri Founded->Library

IBT
Izmit Sword->Sword
Arabs are building Knights Templar

110AD (8)
Just getting troops in place for final push on Carthage

IBT
Aztecs are building Knights Templar
Arabs are building Leos

130AD (9)
Elite Sword kills Archer (23-4)

IBT
Nada

150AD (10)
The Battle for Carthage
Sword Kills NM (24-4)
Horse kills NM (25-4)
Carthage_falls.JPG

I sue for peace and get Currency, Poly, and 11 gold

And thats it for me. I'm trying to get some units in place along our new borders so no one can plop a city down in the middle of us. We are still in Anarchy. We could certainly use some more Settlers to fill in the territory, and work on getting the infrastructure up. Enjoy.

Heres the save
 
Me up will play tomorrow. What did you do with the leader. I asume you created an army. I think we should and leave it empty for now, not much for it otherwise, but not using it will prevent from getting even luckyer.
 
We look good :)

We don't need to do anything with the leader until we go to war again, though the only thing that makes much sense is going to be an army, I think. For that, we need a bunch of galleys, but we need infrastructure, too. We also probably need some embassies, and we really, really, need to find the rest of the world so research of all the techs we are behind is faster.

Am thinking that our next targets are aztecs, for a couple of reasons:

A) Incense.
B) India should be getting war elephants soon, and I want them to blow their GA fighting someone who isn't us.
C) Mongols might be getting their Keshik's soon, and I want them to blow their GA fighting someone who isn't us (Keshiks' are knight replacements, right?)

But libs/markets/harbors are what's key now.

Should we continue building swords? Or should we build horse, to upgrade to knights then cavs later?
 
We have a lot of Swords, probably close to 25 of them. Horsies/Knights would be good, are we going to beeline tech to Military Tradition? If so, we should stop with the Swords.
 
We probably should stop building units for a while and improve our land. But after that I agree with horses for the upgrade path. Played my HoF huge histo today so will play this one tomorrow.
 
This idea just came to me, let me know what everyone thinks.

1) Carthage is toast and the war is pretty much over, we need some time to build infrastructure
2) Aztecs are clearly the power leader by about a factor of 2 at this point
3) Every civ on the other continent has a knight UU (Ansars, Keshiks, Jumbos)
4) That aztec city at the bottom of OUR island really pisses me off.

I think in a couple of turns or when we know everyone has chivalry, we attack the aztecs sign everyone in on a dogpile then after we're done building infrastructure and the alliances run out we choose our next target.
 
Yes, We have enough Swords. They may serve well after upgrade to MInf.
Sure, we take bottom Atztek City soon and will make MAs (Pay horse, or fur for that). Libraries are main priority now.
 
if we are lucky, the aztecs will take out that indian city, then we can take both of them...

a 4 way pile on the aztecs will pretty much wipe them out - heck, just the indian war elephants can cause them serious problems.
 
Pre-turn
Change most builds to libs and markets, will get settlers from largest cities
hit enter
170AD
We're a republic and are paying 104 gpt unit support
Change build need to get cities over size 6. Settlers from cities not on river. On river do lib/market. Corrupted cities build galleys for invasion force.
lux on 10%, science on 40%, engineering in 14, -25gpt
190AD
Uskudar settler->settler
210AD
just irrigating/roading
IBT
lux deal ends no way to continue it
230AD
Istanbul riots, go around other cities to prvent further riots
could buy gems from india but cheaper not to
250AD
Antaly settler->settler
IBT
Aztec demand 23 gold, we could use some happiness so decline, Aztecs declare
270AD
we don't get happiness?? Overlook some of small cities and they riot.
Sinop lib->settler
Denizili lib->market
Send some troops to keep up with ships.

Stop here, we don't have gold to get ambassies, just 1 for India. Do we want to try and get MA's or not, at what cost?

View attachment DW_260AD.SAV
 
What happened on the trading front? Were we able to get anything for Republic from India or did they research it in the meantime?

I think it would be in our best interest to run at +gpt till we can afford embassies, besides it shouldn't take that much gold. I definitely think we should sign in everone if it is at a reasonable cost.

Stating the obvious, let's make sure we disband any non-needed units because that unit support cost is ridiculous.
 
We can borrow money for Embassies.
we don't get happiness?? Overlook some of small cities and they riot.
Click to expand...
May be trade route was broken? Actually happines more effective for large Cities. I think it will be good to make MA for techs, but don't know.
I will look at save and see. Who's up, BTW?
Looked at the save. We have money to establish embassy in India and send them to War for Feudalism. I thint we even may take gems in repurn. (Not a very good idea to link gem to MA, but better, then nothing). I agree to disband some Warriors. I think it is better to do in combination with sort-rush, in the Cities with 9 spt.
 
nerovats is part way through his set.

We did trade with india, i am sure - currency? construction? don't remember.

Does india/etc have chivalry yet?

If they have chivalry, bring them in. if not, no reason. I want them to use their GA on the aztecs and not us ;)
 
I didn't finish turnset but pefer next player takes it (bit buisy). I believe Niftan is up. I find feud a bit expensive for MA of gems. We can buy gems but it wouldn't make a lot of differance for happiness. Since India hasn't got feud yet it also doesn't have chivalry. I think if we bring AI in we should invite more, or India will be an easy target and Aztecs will become even stronger. Was also tinking of disbanding some warriors to get science up.
 
I find feud a bit expensive for MA of gems. We can buy gems but it wouldn't make a lot of differance for happiness
Click to expand...
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It is expensive, but pay gpt for MA or even for Gems not a good idea.
The only worry that trade route will be broken, and reputation gone.
However, may be not, as we paid full price in advance...
Do you think you know all about reputation?
 
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