Hemlige Arne
Chieftain
Lord Gideon said:
Hehe, that's funny man...
Denmark Mod
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Hehe, that's funny man...
Three_Crowns
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From Wikipedia:
"The Order was formed in 1190 by German merchants in Palestine to give medical aid to pilgrims at the holy places. They received Papal orders for crusades to take and hold Jerusalem for Latin Christianity. They were based at Acre.
When the mission of the Order in Palestine was nearing its end, the Teutonic Knights moved their headquarter to Venice and offered their services to Christian rulers confronted with hostile non-Christian neighbors. In 1211, Andrew II of Hungary accepted their services and granted them the district of Burzenland in Transylvania. Andrew had been involved in negotiations for the marriage of his daughter with the son of Hermann, the Landgrave of Thuringia, whose vassals included the family of Hermann of Salza, the new Grand Master of the Teutonic Order. Led by a brother called Theoderich, the Order defended Hungary against the neighbouring Cumans. In 1224 they petitioned Pope Honorius III to be placed directly under the authority of the Papal See, rather than of the King of Hungary. King Andrew responded by expelling them in 1225... ...The knights moved to Prussia, since 1945 northern Poland, where they created the independent Teutonic Order state."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Knights
Even if they had been founded in Jutland, they still have virtually no relation with Danish culture or military history. Not enough to be an UU anyway.
Edit: Is it possible you were thinking about the Teutons - a germanic tribe - who joined the Cimbri - a Jutland tribe - around 120 bc. If so, they have nothing to do with the Order of the Teutonic Knights, and they existed - in written history - during a time period of just 20 years, more than 1000 years before Denmark was officially founded.
"The Order was formed in 1190 by German merchants in Palestine to give medical aid to pilgrims at the holy places. They received Papal orders for crusades to take and hold Jerusalem for Latin Christianity. They were based at Acre.
When the mission of the Order in Palestine was nearing its end, the Teutonic Knights moved their headquarter to Venice and offered their services to Christian rulers confronted with hostile non-Christian neighbors. In 1211, Andrew II of Hungary accepted their services and granted them the district of Burzenland in Transylvania. Andrew had been involved in negotiations for the marriage of his daughter with the son of Hermann, the Landgrave of Thuringia, whose vassals included the family of Hermann of Salza, the new Grand Master of the Teutonic Order. Led by a brother called Theoderich, the Order defended Hungary against the neighbouring Cumans. In 1224 they petitioned Pope Honorius III to be placed directly under the authority of the Papal See, rather than of the King of Hungary. King Andrew responded by expelling them in 1225... ...The knights moved to Prussia, since 1945 northern Poland, where they created the independent Teutonic Order state."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Knights
Even if they had been founded in Jutland, they still have virtually no relation with Danish culture or military history. Not enough to be an UU anyway.
Edit: Is it possible you were thinking about the Teutons - a germanic tribe - who joined the Cimbri - a Jutland tribe - around 120 bc. If so, they have nothing to do with the Order of the Teutonic Knights, and they existed - in written history - during a time period of just 20 years, more than 1000 years before Denmark was officially founded.
SkippyT
Who?
Put Margareth in leader position for Denmark. Dynamic lady there, Finincial/Expansive. Keep Christian IX because he was nice to Iceland.. Or was it Fridrik IX? Doesn't matter. I don't mean Margareth Thorhildur!! I mean Margareth who united Scandinavia. That must mean something! How come I'm not familiar with those knights?
Hehe, would love to see Normandy.
Leader: Richard Lionheart (Aggressive, Creative)
UU: Royal Knights (Upgrade from the regular Knight) Strenght 12, movement 1, +25% city attack, No defensive bonus, -25% against archery units
or
UU: Light Cavalry (Upgrade from the Horse Archer) I dunno the details, but should be fast and using the lance mostly, different than the mongol cavalry but something similar.
Leader: Richard Lionheart (Aggressive, Creative)
UU: Royal Knights (Upgrade from the regular Knight) Strenght 12, movement 1, +25% city attack, No defensive bonus, -25% against archery units
or
UU: Light Cavalry (Upgrade from the Horse Archer) I dunno the details, but should be fast and using the lance mostly, different than the mongol cavalry but something similar.
Don't believe everything you read in encyclopedias. If you want to know about history; study some instead. In average only around 60% in an encyclopedia is correct. The rest is either taken out of contents or plain wrong...
I agree the knights don't represent Denmark as much as other units might do. I personally would prefer the Viking as UU.
And Queen Margrethe would be a better choice than Christian IX.
I agree the knights don't represent Denmark as much as other units might do. I personally would prefer the Viking as UU.
And Queen Margrethe would be a better choice than Christian IX.
Three_Crowns
Information Retrieval
"The Viking" as a unit in general? - so, a settler/worker with A/D?
If it should be a unit from the Viking Age and represent Denmark, then the Berserkir would be a good choice - because of the twelve berserkers of Rolf Krake.
But since it is a Danish mod and not a Norse mod, I still think that a warship is the best UU to represent Denmark. From ca. 1400 AD to 1806 AD, the navy was the most important part of the Danish military.
PS. I really like the choice of C4 and C9 as leaders.
If it should be a unit from the Viking Age and represent Denmark, then the Berserkir would be a good choice - because of the twelve berserkers of Rolf Krake.
But since it is a Danish mod and not a Norse mod, I still think that a warship is the best UU to represent Denmark. From ca. 1400 AD to 1806 AD, the navy was the most important part of the Danish military.
PS. I really like the choice of C4 and C9 as leaders.
The name Viking comes from the term to go "a viking", which mean to leave for sea, to come back with considerable wealth and furtune. Must Danes and Norweigens managed that by raids.
So the Viking would indeed represent Denmark, but as said also Norway.
The navy was important to Denmark, but in Civ4 the UU is generally a land unit. It could of course be changed in this case.
So the Viking would indeed represent Denmark, but as said also Norway.
The navy was important to Denmark, but in Civ4 the UU is generally a land unit. It could of course be changed in this case.
Three_Crowns
Information Retrieval
Dane said:
This is true, but the name may originally have meant "A person coming from Viken" - a region south of Olso in Norway.
Dane said:
In C3C atleast the Byzantines had the Dromon and the English had the Man-o-war.
Going back to the discussion about the Teutonic Knights, I noticed that the unit replaces the swordsman - so this puts it in the Iron Age. This makes me believe that the author indeed was thinking about the Teutones - and not the Teutonic Knights - and as I said before, although the Teutones (and the Cimbri) originated from northern Germany and Jutland, they existed more than one thousand years before Denmark was founded. In the Civ-universe they would be represented by barbarian tribes - which I believe they are.
Ingvina Freyr
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The term viking is most likely connected to the word vig wich means fight or battle. Viking would then mean fighter or warrior and "fara i viking" to go to war. Even though vikings did much more than just fight on their journeys. As Dane pointed out the vikings left home to seek wealth, fortune and glory. Trade and exploring new territories was other ways to become rich and famous.
I agree that the viking is a perfect UU for Denmark (and any other scandinavian civ). During the viking era these warriors made a huge impact on the surrounding world, and their fighting technics and abilities was superior to others for some twohundred years or more.
I agree that the viking is a perfect UU for Denmark (and any other scandinavian civ). During the viking era these warriors made a huge impact on the surrounding world, and their fighting technics and abilities was superior to others for some twohundred years or more.AndyTerry
Russian Bear
Stop off-topic 
Will make Norway as soon as sharick will make a Hirdmann unit
Will make Norway as soon as sharick will make a Hirdmann unit
SkippyT
Who?
Margareth .. ;] *puppy eyes*
I seem to get an error message trying to load the Denmark mod. Have anyone else got that problem. I haven't had any problems with any other new civs, so dont understand why this one is a problem...
Can it be that I don't have the newest updates installed (haven't been bothered yet)?
Can it be that I don't have the newest updates installed (haven't been bothered yet)?
AndyTerry
Russian Bear
OK, it's a problem of compatibility with 1.61 Civ patch. Will be fixed soon (wait a new version of civpack).Dark0n said:
AndyTerry
Russian Bear
Current version of mod was done for 1.52 patchDark0n said:So if understood correctly - I need the 1.61 patch to run this mod? Either that or you misunderstood me, because I do not have the 1.61 installed
Carewolf
Gammelt røvhul
Rather than Christian IX, I think both Margrethe I and Knud den store, would be better danish leaders, as they lead denmark when it was at it's greatest power.
Christian IV is only interesting because he let Denmark to its downfall, and yet remain immensely popular.
Christian IV is only interesting because he let Denmark to its downfall, and yet remain immensely popular.
SkippyT
Who?
I totally agree with Carewolf!
