DoC 1.18 Civilizations

[Bernd-das-Brot]

Thanks for your insights, Orbii.

Your strategy (gold economy with UB, a lot of cities early, doing UHV3 before the Russian spawn) is totally different to mine. I will definitely try it out!

What exactly do you mean with "burner cities"? Outposts in the SE and E that lure barbarians? As I wrote I never had enough barbs to get near 20.

 

[Bernd-das-Brot]

Way back in winter we had a guy proposing Kievan Rus also represent Novgorod (which it kinda does with UHV 3) and have Muscovy's spawn delayed until the mid 15th century. Given how Muscovy's spawn guts Rus (or at least it did a dozen or so Git updates ago) in the mid 13th century making UHV 3 require a military reconquest of Muscovy, I wonder if he was onto something?

The UHV could theoretically be reached by finishing UHV 3 before the Russians spawn (as Orbii did, kind of historic way) or by succesfully competing with the Russians (and becoming the east slavic power instead of Russia). Depending on where they settle you may not have to completly conquer them. Maybe doable. (That they get Minks at spawn is hard, you should avoid settling in their spawn area which is sadly your core or better they shouldnot spawn in Rus core).

The Mongols never attacked me in the 4-5 runs I made (till the Russian spawn at least, stopped playing after failing UHV 2).

If UHV 2 should represent the defense against Mongols, it should count defeated barbs and mongol units. And the Mongols should be more aggressive against Rus.

 

[Orbii]

Thanks for your insights, Orbii.

Your strategy (gold economy with UB, a lot of cities early, doing UHV3 before the Russian spawn) is totally different to mine. I will definitely try it out!

What exactly do you mean with "burner cities"? Outposts in the SE and E that lure barbarians? As I wrote I never had enough barbs to get near 20.

I should have explained my term --- I used "burner cities" to mean the crummy cities settled just for the UHV 3 resources. They're cities that do basically one thing and are useless otherwise (in this case, secure the UHV 3 resources and build a UB). I adapted it from the 'burner phone' term.

Taking this time to add on some screenshots of my city layout and my UHV completion times (this was my last save before the game finished: you can see the last Fur being worked on in the first screenshot).

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