Department of Turnplay

[Whomp]

I think Whomper may right if we look at the treaty as it stands in writing. The problem, IMHO, is that we ourselves in contact with MIA have stated that we consider the tech-part of the treaty fullfilled if we were at tech parity after the big swap. Indeed we were after Poly was included. I feel we didn't wanna press charges on MIA's tnt-dealings before the swap because we were too far behind in techs and wanted that deal to go through, so we said "everything is cool". We also stated that the peace part should be in effect after the swap and in exactly the way that was written, i.e. say nothing until 10 turns after the swap, them one side can declare war in form of a 10 turn notice.

You are correct Dagh however it just as easily could have been used against us. The fact is it was a treaty. The discussion with Chamnix was laid out that we would go our separate way but really each team still had responsibilities to each other. They traded and didn't follow through on their end of the bargain.

I know I'm being very technical and by the book but I'm trying to give us every edge we can find. As Rik Meleet said "these games will be won by what happens out of game not ingame". They are winning the out of game battle.

If we back off I'm fine with that but I would like to send one more PM to
Fe3333au on a personal level letting him know that we are deeply disappointed one final time and can give them a chance to make amends and peace or.......

 

[Tubby Rower]

I'm fine with another PM to MIA. It might be good to come off whiny in that email. Almost with a tone indicating that they have beaten us. That way they might not expect what's coming in 5 turns.

 

[Whomp]

How's this?

Irongold,
I send you this in hopes we can break the tension and come to some possible terms for peace. Our agreement (the written one) was a considerable disappointment to me since (as the admins have stated and you can check with them if you please) you did not hold up your end of the bargain. However, they also stated it’s too late to get any gratification since it should have been done between turns 84-94. Which we requested at that time. At that time, we requested “favoured nation status” after you gave hard earned techs we developed together to TNT. My personal view is the whole treaty was broken the moment you disagreed and we should have attacked you then. My team disagrees and wants to still honor this broken agreement.

I appeal to you personally to avoid conflict. If your team is prepared to declare war on us already then so be it and let’s have at it. If not then let’s try to establish a dialogue. This dialogue should include how we should be compensated and the peace process.
Respectfully yours,
W

 

[Tubby Rower]

disappoint => disappointment

other than that... looks good. I like the part about your team disagreeing with you. It sounds like we want peace but really doesn't say anything of the sort.

The next few turns should be played quickly so that we can get to turn 104 as soon as possible.

 

[grahamiam]

great stuff!

 

[Whomp]

And the response

Dear Whomp of the KISS

I am seeking clarification from the moderators on what you say ... it is news to us that they have ruled that we are at fault ... as it is still our stance that we have not broken any agreement.

So until either Ginger_Ale or Regentman does respond I cannot address the point you have raised. However I do say this, our attitude towards violence and war has not altered from the fine days of the Green Alliance. We have been reacting to your aggressive actions and the presence of Grinder so far south is a grave cause for concern to us.

I hope this helps to cast a positive light to your note.

Feaurius III
Foreign Minister

 

[Tubby Rower]

Which one is Grinder?

 

[Whomp]

GS's Grinder, Happy Camper and Gallic Sword are moving along the eastern edge heading south.
GS Invincible and warrior Weezer head south along the west coast.
GS Tubby Terror is outlining Parga (the Greeks northern most west coast city)

 

[Tubby Rower]

FYI>>>>>

D'nut has sent a gmail message requesting Republic as "goodwill".

Spoiler actual email :

Hi.
We have pretty much agreed to the agreement. I have to send this message asap as our people demand new government as it is now it seems to be The Republic. Can you send as a token of goodwill tech "The Republic" on the following turn?

Also the save is in our mailbox. I have requested an extension. Chamnix just played at 8:55 Pm EST so we basically still have 24 hours.

 

[Whomp]

Here's a draft sent to Nuts.

Spoiler :

Dear Nuts,

While we are encouraged by our recent alliance chats, we are hesitant
to send tokens since MIA has backstabbed us so bad. Can we at least
get something in writing that says you will give us monarchy upon
completion?

I'm sure you realize D'nuts will be getting a great advantage out of
this treaty since KISS will be giving construction and our current
research in the MA so that you can start co-researching in the MA.

Is there anything you can do for us out of goodwill? A few purple
troops annoying MIA would be helpful.

Thanks,
Tubby of Kiss

 

[Rik Meleet]

lurker's comment: Please use "game admins" or "admins" when referring to Ginger_Ale and Regentman and reserve "moderator" for me.
Thx

 

[Tubby Rower]

Rik, I just searched for "mod" on this page and the only place that it is used is in a letter to us from fe3333au.

But we'll keep referring to you as the Great Meleet.

 

[Crakie]

The consensus in the 'when should we attack' poll at the moment is that we are not quite ready yet anyway. Shame about those wasted turns when MIA was still weak, but hey... what can you do. Keep up the whiny notes to MIA though, loving it

 

[Tubby Rower]

Todo for turn 100

• Diplo
  1. send Republic to D'nut, then accept it.
• Micromanagement
  1. SKWTD -> another GS
  2. Cyprus Creek -> catapult
• Workers (it's ok for workers to join in on tasks)
  1. continue to road and improve (mine green; irrigate brown)
  2. mine hills
• Other stuff
  1. western settler settle Devil's Soul on wines
  2. we got caught in our scouting efforts in the south. Just roam around busting as much fog as you can
  3. moving all GS to EWR and/or Senilityville except 2 maybe 3 placed strategically in the core for defense
  4. move reg warrior down south to Effing Whomping Rower
• Other MM
  1. check for happiness @ end of turn
  2. might want to drop science back to 50% to not run a risk of going negative and losing a barracks/granary/unit
  3. get relative strength via F3 for MIA
  4. check F3 for barb camp locations
  5. press enter and then select "Save & Exit"

 

[Tubby Rower]

can anyone play this? Kunnigas is away Saturday and would like to get to it today. I didn't think that anyone had an issue with sending Republic to D'nut.

 

[Crakie]

I can take this in a couple of hours, what's Kuningas' time zone? If I take it, the save will be sent 10 pm CET at the latest. If someone else wants to take it before me, no hard feelings

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Never done diplo stuff but I could play it right right now, so I'll try not to screw up the 2-3 clicks it takes to push technology--republic--accept.

 

[Tubby Rower]

turn 101 is in & I have it.

 

[Tubby Rower]

we're on turn 102 when it comes back around. That means that we have turn 102 and 103 and then on turn 104 blood should be spilled. I think that it's VERY prudent that someone who knows about blood-letting should take the next two turns.

I guarantee that I'll screw up the positions and make stupid mistakes

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I guarantee you'll do a very fine job and anyone who'll take it could very very well do the same mistakes anywho