[DEV] Nations population and important cities

[Gedemon]

Thanks everyone

FRANCE

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France 1936

Paris 2,829,700
Marseille 814,700
Lyon 562,000
Bordeaux 256,400
Toulouse 213,200
Nice 209,400

FRANCE 41,900,000

Paris 2,829,000
Marseille 814,000
Lyon 562,000
Bordeaux 256,000
Toulouse 213,000
Nice 209,000
Lille 200,000
Strasbourg 192,000
Nantes 190,000
Saint-Étienne 171,000

U.K.

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U.K. 1938

London 4,062,800
Birmingham 1,041,000
Glasgow 1,131,800
Edinburgh 475,500
Belfast 438,100
Manchester 732,900

UK 47,760,000

London 4,062,800
Liverpool 827,400
Manchester 732,900
Sheffield 520,000
Leeds 494,000
Edinburgh 475,500
Belfast 438,100
Bristol 415,500
Kingston 318,700
Newcastle 291,300

CHINA

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China 1936/38

Beijing 1,556,000
Guangzhou 1,022,000
Nanjing 1,016,000
Shanghai 3,490,000
Wuhan 1,242,000

Source http://www.populstat.info/

Colony....

Hong Kong (Not sure what to do with that)

1931 849,800 census 1931
1941 1,600,000 Japanese occupation

Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Hong_Kong

ITALY

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Italy 1936

Roma 1,155,700
Bari 196,700
Bologna 269,700
Catania 225,000
Firenze 322,500
Genova 634,600
Milano 1,115,800
Napoli 865,900
Palerme 411,900
Torino 629,100
Trieste 248,400

Source of data
http://www.populstat.info/

ITALY 44,394,000

Roma 1,155,700
Milano 1,115,800
Napoli 865,900
Genova 634,600
Torino 629,100
Palermo 411,900
Firenze 322,500
Bologna 269,700
Venezia 264,000
Trieste 248,400

GERMANY

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GERMANY 69,662,000

Berlin 4,338,800
München 829,300
Köln 772,200
Leipzig 707,400
Essen 666,700
Dresden 630,200
Frankfurt 553,500
Dortmund 542,300
Düsseldorf 541,400
Hannover 471,000

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JAPAN

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Mainland

City 10/1/35 10/1/40 2/22/44 11/1/45
Tōkyō 5,875,667 6,778,804 6,558,161 2,777,010
Ōsaka 2,989,874 3,252,340 2,833,344 1,102,959
Nagoya 1,082,816 1,328,084 1,344,100 597,941
Kyōto 1,010,593 1,089,726 964,466 866,153
Yokohama 704,290 968,091 1,019,466 624,994
Kōbe 912,179 967,234 918,032 379,166
Hiroshima 310,118 343,968 336,483 137,197
Fukuoka 291,158 306,763 324,499 252,282
Kawasaki 154,748 300,777 380,919 180,042
Yahata 208,629 261,309 252,662 151,378
Nagasaki 211,702 252,630 270,113 142,748
Miyahara/Washō/Kure 231,333 238,195 293,632 152,184
Sendai 219,547 223,630 261,117 238,250
Shizuoka 200,737 212,198 211,666 161,720
Sapporo 196,541 206,103 225,842 220,139
Sasebo 173,283 205,989 241,239 147,617
Akamazeki/Shimonoseki 132,737 196,022 206,961 155,623
Hakodate 207,480 203,862 196,680 181,531
Wakayama 179,732 195,203 205,396 147,523
Kumamoto 187,382 194,193 211,011 181,128
Yokosuka 182,871 193,358 298,132 202,038
Kagoshima 181,736 190,257 189,991 93,698
Kanazawa 163,733 186,297 193,560 200,584
Sakai 141,286 182,147 217,939 168,348
Amagasaki 71,072 181,011 270,073 153,051
Otaru 153,587 164,282 151,905 145,510
Okayama 166,144 163,552 160,902 92,861
Niigata 134,992 150,903 177,289 174,170
Toyama 83,324 127,859 160,537 100,775
Tokushima 97,021 119,581 116,734 80,681
Takamatsu 86,840 111,207 107,202 72,656
Kōchi 103,405 106,644 136,699 111,630
Fukui 75,273 94,595 99,477 45,559
Akita 60,646 61,791 97,361 101,009
Matsue 52,033 55,506 54,282 54,033
Hagi 32,587 32,270 30,960 38,388
Shuri 19,305 17,537 17,964 n.d.

Occupied Territory in 1940
Taiwan: 5,872,100
Korea: 24,730,000

City 1930 1940
Keijō 350,000 1,100,000
Fuzan 130,000 400,000
Heijō 137,000 286,000
Jinsen 54,000 171,000
Taihoku 249,000 326,000
Tainan 166,000 296,000
Kīrun 79,000 100,000

JAPAN 71,380,000

Tôkyô 5,875,700
Ôsaka 2,989,900
Nagoya 1,082,800
Kyôto 1,080,600
Kôbe 912,200
Yokohama 704,300
Kitakyûshû 581,700
Hiroshima 310,100
Fukuoka 291,200
Kure 231,300

U.S.A

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Country U.S.
Date 1 st april 1930
Population 122 775 046
City New York 6 930 446
Détroit 1 568 662
Los Angeles 1 238 000
Chicago 3 376 438
Philadelphie 1 950 961
Washington 486 869

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U.R.S.S.

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USSR-1939 (Doing early 1930 is not recommended due to the about 10 million population loss during Holomdor and the Purges ^~^)
Population-169 Million
Moscow~4,100,000
Leningrad~3,000,000
Kiev~930,000
Minsk~300,000 (Belarus had around 5.5 Million people)
Sevastapol~350,000 (Difficult to tell the population here especially)
Smolensk~400,000
Odessa~550,000
Stalingrad~445,000
Novosibirsk~380,000
Vladivostok~300,000 (However Prisoner population is another 800,000, Gulags eh?)
(I also included Riga for initial Soviet annex purposes) Riga~380,000


Mind you the Soviets had a large amount of Prison Labour, and transferred factories. I have no clue how one would code that, or if you'd want to adjust population stats for some cities to reflect this. While becoming an Industrial center rather recently, the Soviets did have a large rural population, so some additions could be added. (Particularly in the Ukraine, Belarus, and around Stalingrad.)

It would definitely seem that you would need to push some industry deeper into the USSR, as they began out producing the Germans even when they held portions of their country. But alas, I wouldn't know how to handle that. Perhaps adding manufactory tiles on the cities closer to the Urals.

Hope this helps I love your mod and have been playing all the World maps, hoping to find problems and help with development any way I can.

POLAND

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Interwar Poland (don't know if it's major or minor civ, but due to size and the start of the war itself I think it's relevant nonetheless):

Total population:
1931: around 31 million
1938: around 34,5 million

Cities (1938):
Warsaw (capital): 1,3 million
Łódź: 670 thousand
Lwów/Lviv: 320 thousand
Poznań: 270 thousand
Kraków: 260 thousand
Wilno/Vilnius: 210 thousand
Bydgoszcz: 140 thousand
Katowice: 130 thousand
Lublin: 120 thousand


Towns in eastern Poland, today Belarus or Ukraine (not in top 10, but relevant to fill out the borders on civ map, or they were capitals of eastern administrative regions):

Stanisławów: 60 thousand
Brześć nad Bugiem/Brest-on-the-Bug: 50 thousand
Łuck: 40 thousand
Tarnopol: 35 thousand
Nowogródek: 10 thousand


My town - Tarnów, 50 miles (or 80 kilometres) east of Kraków - is infamous for being the one from where the very first transport of Polish prisoners to Auschwitz camp was launched in 1940 (transport of Jews began at a slightly later date). In 1939 it had around 55 thousand population, about 40% of it Jewish. From 1927 it is home to an important chemical plant.

CANADA

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Its gona be a minor but its a large area.

Canada

1931 10,377,000 total

Montréal 1,064,448
Toronto 856,955
Winnipeg 218,785
Vancouver 246,593

OTHER MINORS

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Algeria: Algiers ou El-Djazaïr 257,100 ?, Oran, Constantine, iron
South Africa: Cape Town 344,000, Pretoria 128,000, Port Elisabeth 109,000 , coal (No official capital, many cities have different role to govern the country)
Mexique: Mexico 1,029,068, Mérida, Guadalajara, Oil
Newfoundland and Labrador: St-John 200,000?, iron
British Guiana: Georgetown 66,000 (census in 1946 375,819 for the country), bauxite
Chile: Santiago 696,000, Valparaiso, Antofagosta, Puerto Montt, Iron
Colombia: Bogotá 325,650, Barranquilla, Buenaventura, oil
Suriname: Paramaribo 52,000, bauxite
Venezuela: Caracas 203,000 Maracaibo, oil
India: New Delhi 116,900, Mumbai, Visakhapatnam, coal, iron
Iran: Tehran 360,300 in 1940, Bandar-e-Abbas, Rasht, oil
Iraq: Bagdad 287,000, Basra (Not many port), Oil
Malay States: Kuala Lumpur 136,000, Singapore, Bintulu, iron, bauxite
Netherlands Indies: Batavia 437,400, Medan, Makassar, Kota Samarinda, Jayapura, oil, bauxite
Belgium/Netherland: Brussels 193,500, Ostend, coal
Hungary: Budapest 1,052,000, no coastal cities, bauxite
Greece: Athene 452,900, Thessaloniki, Patras, Kavalas, bauxite
Norway: Oslo 272,000, Bergen, Trondheim, iron
Netherland: Amsterdam 757,000, coal
Romania: Bucarest 639,000, Constanta, oil
Sweden: Stockholm 647,900, Umea, Gõteborg, iron
Yugoslavia: Belgrade 238,800, Trieste, bauxite
Australia: Canberra 10,000, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Darwin, Brisbane, coal, iron


Peru: Lima 373,900,
Saudi Arabia: Riyad 30,000, Jeddah, oil


Peru (Oil for USA)
Saudi Arabia (Oil for Allies)

Source of data
http://www.populstat.info/

 

[Gedemon]

We're missing Germany, France, U.K., Italy, Japan, China

And we'll need at least the capitals and "resource cities" of the minor civilizations.

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

And we'll need at least the capitals and "resource cities" of the minor civilizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capitals_in_alphabetical_order

Thats a start, maybe some dont exist anymore and some are new since ww2.

 

[Gedemon]

I mean the 30's population in those capitals

Perhaps we should start by the list of "must have" minor civs then.

 

[Gedemon]

Algeria (iron)
South Africa (coal)
Mexico (oil)
Newfoundland (iron)
British Guiana (bauxite)
Chile (iron)
Colombia (oil)
Suriname (bauxite)
Venezuela (oil)
India (coal, iron)
Iran (oil)
Iraq (oil)
Malay States (iron, bauxite)
Netherlands Indies (oil, bauxite)
Belgium/Netherland (coal)
Hungary (bauxite)
Greece (bauxite)
Norway (iron)
Romania (oil)
Sweden (iron)
Yugoslavia (bauxite)
Australia (coal, iron)

For those we need the capital, and a few coastal cities (if available) with the type of resources a convoy may transport from there.

Example:
Norway: Oslo (pop ?), Narvik (size 1 city - iron convoy)

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

Working on that, sorry for the delay! Some country like Algeria didnt do census before 1961 it appear. The French did some attemp but unsuccessfull.

 

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First column is the city/state name and third column is its total population.

 

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Cities with populations over 100,000.

 

[ruckingit]

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Mainland

City 10/1/35 10/1/40 2/22/44 11/1/45
Tōkyō 5,875,667 6,778,804 6,558,161 2,777,010
Ōsaka 2,989,874 3,252,340 2,833,344 1,102,959
Nagoya 1,082,816 1,328,084 1,344,100 597,941
Kyōto 1,010,593 1,089,726 964,466 866,153
Yokohama 704,290 968,091 1,019,466 624,994
Kōbe 912,179 967,234 918,032 379,166
Hiroshima 310,118 343,968 336,483 137,197
Fukuoka 291,158 306,763 324,499 252,282
Kawasaki 154,748 300,777 380,919 180,042
Yahata 208,629 261,309 252,662 151,378
Nagasaki 211,702 252,630 270,113 142,748
Miyahara/Washō/Kure 231,333 238,195 293,632 152,184
Sendai 219,547 223,630 261,117 238,250
Shizuoka 200,737 212,198 211,666 161,720
Sapporo 196,541 206,103 225,842 220,139
Sasebo 173,283 205,989 241,239 147,617
Akamazeki/Shimonoseki 132,737 196,022 206,961 155,623
Hakodate 207,480 203,862 196,680 181,531
Wakayama 179,732 195,203 205,396 147,523
Kumamoto 187,382 194,193 211,011 181,128
Yokosuka 182,871 193,358 298,132 202,038
Kagoshima 181,736 190,257 189,991 93,698
Kanazawa 163,733 186,297 193,560 200,584
Sakai 141,286 182,147 217,939 168,348
Amagasaki 71,072 181,011 270,073 153,051
Otaru 153,587 164,282 151,905 145,510
Okayama 166,144 163,552 160,902 92,861
Niigata 134,992 150,903 177,289 174,170
Toyama 83,324 127,859 160,537 100,775
Tokushima 97,021 119,581 116,734 80,681
Takamatsu 86,840 111,207 107,202 72,656
Kōchi 103,405 106,644 136,699 111,630
Fukui 75,273 94,595 99,477 45,559
Akita 60,646 61,791 97,361 101,009
Matsue 52,033 55,506 54,282 54,033
Hagi 32,587 32,270 30,960 38,388
Shuri 19,305 17,537 17,964 n.d.

Occupied Territory in 1940
Taiwan: 5,872,100
Korea: 24,730,000

City 1930 1940
Keijō 350,000 1,100,000
Fuzan 130,000 400,000
Heijō 137,000 286,000
Jinsen 54,000 171,000
Taihoku 249,000 326,000
Tainan 166,000 296,000
Kīrun 79,000 100,000

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

Algeria: Algiers ou El-Djazaïr 257,100, Oran, Constantine, iron
South Africa: Cape Town 344,000, Pretoria 128,000, Port Elisabeth 109,000 , coal (No official capital, many cities have different role to govern the country)
Mexique: Mexico 1,029,068, Mérida, Guadalajara, Oil
Newfoundland and Labrador: St-John 39,000, iron
British Guiana: Georgetown 66,000, bauxite
Chile: Santiago 696,000, Valparaiso, Antofagosta, Puerto Montt, Iron
Colombia: Bogotá 325,650, Barranquilla, Buenaventura, oil
Suriname: Paramaribo 52,000, bauxite
Venezuela: Caracas 203,000 Maracaibo, oil
India: New Delhi 116,900, Mumbai, Visakhapatnam, coal, iron
Iran: Tehran 360,300 in 1940, Bandar-e-Abbas, Rasht, oil
Iraq: Bagdad 287,000, Basra (Not many port), Oil
Malay States: Kuala Lumpur 136,000, Singapore, Bintulu, iron, bauxite
Netherlands Indies: Batavia 437,400, Medan, Makassar, Kota Samarinda, Jayapura, oil, bauxite
Belgium/Netherland: Brussels 193,500, Ostend, coal
Hungary: Budapest 1,052,000, no coastal cities, bauxite
Greece: Athene 452,900, Thessaloniki, Patras, Kavalas, bauxite
Norway: Oslo 272,000, Bergen, Trondheim, iron
Netherland: Amsterdam 757,000, coal
Romania: Bucarest 639,000, Constanta, oil
Sweden: Stockholm 647,900, Umea, Gõteborg, iron
Yugoslavia: Belgrade 238,800, Trieste, bauxite
Australia: Canberra 10,000, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Darwin, Brisbane, coal, iron


Peru: Lima 373,900,
Saudi Arabia: Riyad 30,000, Jeddah, oil


Peru (Oil for USA)
Saudi Arabia (Oil for Allies)

Source of data
http://www.populstat.info/

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

Enought for tonight

 

[Gedemon]

Thanks both of you

OP updated.

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

Italy 1936

Roma 1,155,700
Bari 196,700
Bologna 269,700
Catania 225,000
Firenze 322,500
Genova 634,600
Milano 1,115,800
Napoli 865,900
Palerme 411,900
Torino 629,100
Trieste 248,400

Source of data
http://www.populstat.info/

 

[Gedemon]

thanks, added to OP

Just France, U.K. and China left.

 

[ZeroZeroSix]

France 1936

Paris 2,829,700
Marseille 814,700
Lyon 562,000
Bordeaux 256,400
Toulouse 213,200
Nice 209,400


U.K. 1938

London 4,062,800
Birmingham 1,041,000
Glasgow 1,131,800
Edinburgh 475,500
Belfast 438,100
Manchester 732,900


China 1936/38

Beijing 1,556,000
Guangzhou 1,022,000
Nanjing 1,016,000
Shanghai 3,490,000
Wuhan 1,242,000

Source http://www.populstat.info/

Colony....

Hong Kong (Not sure what to do with that)

1931 849,800 census 1931
1941 1,600,000 Japanese occupation

Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Hong_Kong

 

[Gedemon]

Thanks, good job

 

[gertjantommel]

The Netherlands:
Amsterdam had 793,526 citizens on January 1st 1939
Rotterdam (could be the port city, coal) had 612,372 citizens on January 1st 1939
The Hague (Den Haag) had 495,518 citizens
Utrecht had 163,559

Source: http://www.dbnl.org/arch/_bev001bevo17_01/pag/_bev001bevo17_01.pdf

Here some data on GDP and populations http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_02-2010.xls

Population overview:

Western Europe
Austria 6.653.000
Belgium 8.392.000
Denmark 3.805.000
Finland 3.686.000
France 41.900.000
Germany 69.286.000
Italy 43.865.000
Netherlands 8.782.000
Norway 2.954.000
Sweden 6.326.000
Switzerland 4.206.000
United Kingdom 47.991.000
Total 12 Western Europe 247.846.000
Ireland 2.934.000
Greece 7.156.000
Portugal 7.581.000
Spain 25.517.000
Total 14 small west European countries 1.476.000
Total 30 Western Europe 292.510.000
Western Offshoots
Australia 6.971.000
New Zealand 1.627.000
Canada 11.570.000
United States 131.539.000
Total Western Offshoots 151.707.000
Eastern Europe
Albania 1.070.000
Bulgaria 6.614.000
Czechoslovakia 14.683.000
Hungary 9.227.000
Poland 31.365.000
Romania 15.751.000
Yugoslavia 16.305.000
Total 7 East European Countries 95.015.000
Total Former USSR 192.379.000
8 Latin American countries
Argentina 13.984.000
Brazil 40.289.000
Chile 4.964.398
Colombia 8.935.000
Mexico 20.047.000
Peru 6.338.000
Uruguay 1.944.000
Venezuela 3.699.000
Total 8 Latin American countries 100.200.398
15 Latin American countries
Bolivia 2.659.000
Costa Rica 610.000
Cuba 4.497.000
Dominican Republic 1.634.000
Ecuador 2.412.000
El Salvador 1.610.000
Guatemala 2.150.000
Haïti 2.716.000
Honduras 1.120.000
Jamaica 1.191.000
Nicaragua 810.000
Panama 656.000
Paraguay 1.086.000
Puerto Rico 1.844.000
Trinidad and Tobago 466.000
Total 15 Latin American countries 25.461.000
Total 21 small Caribbean countries 1.883.000
Total Latin America 127.544.398
16 East Asian countries
China 516.046.000
India 381.400.000
Indonesia (including Timor until 1999) 72.902.523
Japan 72.364.000
Philippines 16.275.000
South Korea 15.504.000
Thailand 15.244.000
Taiwan 5.680.000
Burma 16.368.000
Hong Kong 1.750.000
Malaysia 5.317.000
Singapore 728.000
Sri Lanka 6.095.000
Total 16 East Asian countries 1.125.673.523
Turkey 17.517.000

 

[ruckingit]

I found a 1938 World Almanac of facts and figures at a book store. If you have anything you'd like me to look up, just let me know.