Diplo for D'nut

scoutsout · Mar 14, 2006

For those not following the logs... 'nuts should have received their first shipment of spices at Crunch. We got our first of twenty 15gpt payments.

@Diplomats: Please inquire as to whether they were able to develop Cinnamon Doughnuts.

And while you're at it... next time they offer something... ask 'em for an out-of-game 'heads up'.

scoutsout · Mar 17, 2006

Here's the dispatch sent with the latest save. If one of you diplomat types would open up a dialog with the worker trade thing... it would be good. We're currently paying 60gpt for unit support.

scoutsout said:
@ Team Doughnut: Has our emissary been in touch with you regarding a worker trade? It might benefit us both if we could trade worker-for-worker... it might help contain those unit costs.

Please advise if you have developed any new doughnut recipies with the spices. We have heard that cinammon is tasty. Unfortunately, our doughbolt factory is still in a shambles, and we have not found Dinsog...

Attached is the save.

Best regards,
-scoutsout

Rik Meleet · Mar 18, 2006

lurker's comment: You might want to check with Ginger and Regent if worker-trading in this setup is allowed...

Tubby Rower · Mar 23, 2006

Sent to Robi D, Nobody and Kunigas

Tubby Rower said:
Dear peoples of the Doug H. Nuts,

We as a people of Kiss-o-holics are upon the precipice of discovering a nifty concept Fuedalism. We shall have serfs and they will love working in our fields.

The question has come up as to what the status of your research has been. We shall comply with the Nut and Bolt treaty (The Simpsons' Protocol) and hand over these secrets when we sure that it is the best that we could come up with.

Also, Do you have any further intellegence on MIA or TNT? It appears as though TNT settled near you wines on the eastern coast of your continent.

Tubby of the Kissers

Tubby Rower · Mar 23, 2006

Quick reply back from Nobody

Nobody said:
Hey Tubbstar

Expect Monothism to be delivered in 8 turns... for everything else ill just see ya on MSN. Its late and im tired.

Seems like TnT might be up to their old tricks.

Regards

Nobotti
Foreign Affairs Consulate
Republic of Doughnutia

scoutsout · Mar 23, 2006

@Tubby - find out what they mean by "TNT ...up to their old tricks..." Any intel you can gather on that front would be helpful... as I plan to deploy a small SoD next to Carpetbomb in 2 turns.

Whomp · Mar 23, 2006

Scout here's my interpretation of what he said...
1st, Nobody "the CFCer" is not a fan of TNT and didn't want peace with them.

When he said "they're up to their old tricks" those tricks include such things as starting a war out of nowhere, razing a city and capturing a worker, jumping their capital, mining a hill in despotism, building MoM and letting Provo and Dinsog spout garbage.

The new "old trick" is TNT encroaching on Donut territory for a lux they know they won't get from Donut or us (the only two with wines).
I'd guess in the peace treaty they didn't discuss borders and TNT is exploiting the peace terms.

Tubby Rower · Mar 24, 2006

That's what I read into it too. I'll check anyway.

Should I send a notice that we will be slapping them around a little? I'll just send it to Nobody and its for his eyes only and I trust him not to share it with the other two teams (or his for that matter) until it has reached the point of no return.

scoutsout · Mar 24, 2006

Tubby Rower said:
Should I send a notice that we will be slapping them around a little? I'll just send it to Nobody and its for his eyes only and I trust him not to share it with the other two teams (or his for that matter) until it has reached the point of no return.

Not just yet. At the end of the next turn we will have reached the point of no return, and we may not have sealed the deal with MIA yet. Since MIA has a settler pair on the way to a site that isn't negotiated...that could get dicey. We may be forced to delay our invasion by a turn or two, and we don't want to tip TNT off.

Sir Bugsy · Mar 24, 2006

Benjamin Franklin said something like: "If you want to keep a secret from your enemy, don't tell it to a friend."

Or "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead."

Don't tell the Donuts anything until we launch the attack. Then just enough to keep them on our side.

scoutsout · Apr 2, 2006

This is the latest in the turntracker:

donsig said:
There is panic in the streets. We need an extension for a couple days.

We need to keep our friends close...and our enemies closer. Considering the fact that our 'friends' will eventually be our enemies...

We need to keep 'nuts and MIA on the sidelines. I am sure TNT is pulling out all diplomatic stops to get some help. I say we could offer Dyes to 'nuts to stay out of this war.

"We are your friends, and we will reward you for honoring our treaty. Dyes for neutrality."

...or something like that. It's an option. Similar post in MIA diplo thread in a moment.

Daghdha · Apr 2, 2006

Of course we could offer some goodies for neutrality, but in my book our signing of non-aggression means we don't have to. MIA and Nuts have made their choise, and that is to leave us alone for a while. Let's wait and see if they signal any intentions of breaking the agreements before we give away anything.

Tubby Rower · Apr 2, 2006

Dyes to the nuts sound fine since they are a friend currently. MIA shouldn't get anything IMO since they stabbed us in the back by trading all techs to TNT without sharing one iota.

Sir Bugsy · Apr 2, 2006

We have trade agreements with Donuts. We are helping them with their continent. They don't need anything else.

Tubby Rower · Apr 2, 2006

remember that by giving D'nuts dyes you'll help their research (in a round about way) and in turn help us out by allowing them to research faster.

Tubby Rower · Apr 2, 2006

I had a brief conversation with Nobody from D'nut

Spoiler :

In short they are upset that we couldn't trust them and they had just signed a 5 turn extension on non-aggression. Scout's humor defused the situation and we are all good. It looks like they are planning on remaining neutral at worst in this conflict.

They think that we are newbies that we know nothing and idiots are stoopid

I'll update the conversation as it happens

Done with the Updates....

Sir Bugsy · Apr 2, 2006

1. The plausible deniability part was brilliant.
2. IF they can't see the effectiveness of complete surprise, then they are bigger idiots then we are. Quote Ben Franklin for them.
3. We had no military treaty with them. If we had a military pact, then we would have brought them in on our secrets. No pact, no secrets. Sort of like USA giving Mexico our Iraq War battle plans before hand. Yes, USA and UK traded secrets, but they were allies. Donuts and KISS are not allies yet.
4. They only signed a five turn extension. It isn't like they are tied up for fifty like MIA is.
5. Our war will help Donuts immensely. If they decide to open a second front, then it is to our mutual benefit.

Kickbooti · Apr 2, 2006

Hear, hear, Bugsy. They didn't need to know, and I'm glad Tubs and Scout could diffuse the situation.

I would encourage them to press for tribute, maybe send us a gift for helping them along.

It would be interesting to see if we could coordinate a military operation with the Nuts. It would be nice to grab what lux we want, get the Nuts rolling, and then shift our forces back to MIA while keeping enough of an Idiot Expaditionary Force to LOOK like we were busy on the Battle Isle.

But I leave strategy to the experts...

Sir Bugsy · Apr 3, 2006

Having good roads, and available naval transports in the Western Strait will be key to a two continent conflict. I would suggest that we assign two deputies under scout. One to study our homeland defense situation and one to study the front. Scout would remain overall CJCS and execute the turn -by-turn operations.

When you start talking two front operations, it is a huge undertaking and a very delicate balancing act. In this game we would almost have to shift into AW mode.

Bottom line - Keep MIA at peace at all costs. Most important is setting up an early warning system along the DMZ. We should have a two turn heads up except for troops coming out of cities. Expect any attacks to focus on our two jungle lux cities.

scoutsout · Apr 3, 2006

Kickbooti said:
It would be interesting to see if we could coordinate a military operation with the Nuts.

Maybe in about ... 40 turns we could start these discussion... with a coordinated operation against MIA??!?!?!

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