Diplo for D'nut

scoutsout · May 13, 2006

Sir Bugsy said:
If we could time our D-Day 2 Landing to coincide with their declaration, we would crush TNT. A three way attack would cripple them. If our diplomats agree, let's give the Nutters our plan.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Let's tell the nutters our plan. I think it will help us both if they attack 1 or 2 turns after our ground offensive rumbles out of Spite or Auda City.

I'll leave it to G-man to decide whether to go after the center or the SE Flank... but our ground forces should be able to roll in 2 turns, with our amphibioius landing poised to land 2 turns later. If 'nuts time their attack to come on the same turn as our amphibious landing... anything TNT pulls from the south to meet our main stack will not be able to return to their posts in time to meet the Doughnutian forces.

Whomp · May 13, 2006

Our timing has been impeccable. Peace with MIA just in time for a April Fool's day invasion, a beautifully timed GA and now our 2nd invasion force ready to pounce at the same time they're ready to unleash their offensive. I love it.

I agree we should discuss our plans to coordinate with theirs. The aftermath will be complete and utter panic by both MIA and TNT.

However, it's time to start thinking about handling the aftermath.

How are we going to split up the continent? Will we need to renegotiate a long term agreement that requires Donut and KISS are the last man standing? What victory condition is most palatable to both teams? Semtex? We could use it to our benefit in Commie for pop rushing with MoM. Luxs? Land splits? What will MIA do in all of this? What are we willing to compromise or is it with the victors go the spoils?

I think we need to start thinking ahead on these situations.

Kickbooti · May 13, 2006

Do we have a map of Battle Isle so we can decide how to carve this turkey?

Admiral Kutzov · May 13, 2006

just thinking out loud. Don't tell anyone that I think, I'll deny it.

We running along the bottom of the tech tree right? anyone know to use cannons and cavalry?

Whomp · May 13, 2006

Interesting conversation with Killercane today. Sounds like MIA is saber rattling with them. Read the letter they sent to Donuts.

Spoiler :

Sir Bugsy · May 13, 2006

That is so interesting. We need to make sure that MIA knows that any aggression against Donuts breaks our peace.

Those guys are sweating it out though. Their science buddy is floundering and they are in deep kimshi.

Maybe have donuts tell them that if they wish to stop our domination victory, they need to claim some TNT lands for themselves. That really is their only option. Otherwise if they sit back and wait we will over balance and roll right over MIA.

scoutsout · May 13, 2006

Perhaps this might be a good time for me to be publicly "deposed" from turnplayership... for overbuilding our military, and not using our GA to build infrastructure.

Perhaps one of our more "subtle" diplomats (this is not you Igor

) could "leak" it to MIA that we decided to switch turnplayers to someone who can shift us out of warmonger mode after our GA ends...

gmaharriet · May 13, 2006

scoutsout said:
Perhaps this might be a good time for me to be publicly "deposed" from turnplayership... for overbuilding our military, and not using our GA to build infrastructure.

Ah, poor Scout! Returned humiliated to Mathilda's comforting arms.

Whomp · May 15, 2006

I tried highlighting the good stuff. Coordinated war plans and investigating Dancing 'Nana for 52g.

Spoiler :

Daghdha · May 15, 2006

Very interesting stuff ideed. Go look in the MIA thread and see what we can do with the current situation. Whomp's idea on having Nut's and MIA sign a tech deal seems fine. We should co-ordinate our "stories" so that we can play MIA together.

Sir Bugsy · May 15, 2006

Well done Scout & Whomp. That will set us up very nicely. A three prong attack should have TNT on the ropes within... two turns max. Any bets on how many autorazes we see?

scoutsout · May 16, 2006

Here's the latest communique between Kuningas and me... with a copy to G-man.

@G-man - I don't know if you picked it out of all the spam in the chat we had... but 'nuts don't have an embassy w/ TNT. If we pay the 52g it takes for them to establish one, they'll share the intel on the city's garrison.

I say we round it up a notch to 60g, as a token of goodwill...and to cover any additional shillings it might cost.

scoutsout said:
(copy to grahamiam, our current turnplayer)

President Kuningas,

Thank you for passing that along. I am sending a copy of this note to our current turnplayer as a reminder. We look forward to the collaborating with Team Doughnut in the upcoming campaigns.

Should we meet in Semtex, we think it would be great if you bring the doughnuts, and we'll bring the coffee. Otherwise, the last army to Dancing Banana buys the beer.

Warmest regards,
scoutsout

P.S. Please pass along my best regards to killercane and Robi D.

Kuningas said:

I forgot to check. Robi said it is 52g.

scoutsout said:

(copy to Robi D and Whomp)

Kuningas,

What would it cost for you to investigate Dancing Banana?

Best regards,
scout

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grahamiam · May 16, 2006

got it, 60g

jb1964 · May 17, 2006

Sir Bugsy said:
That is so interesting. We need to make sure that MIA knows that any aggression against Donuts breaks our peace.

I bet they already have that in mind. Does reminding them clue them into the content of the communications w/ Killercane?

Does this make sense or am I getting the different players mixed up? Or does it just not make sense?

Kickbooti · May 17, 2006

jb1964 said:
I bet they already have that in mind. Does reminding them clue them into the content of the communications w/ Killercane?

Does this make sense or am I getting the different players mixed up? Or does it just not make sense?

I have to agree with jb. If we remind MIA of the reality that aggression against donuts it bespeaks of triangulation at best, cooporation at worst. I say mum until/if MIA starts moving aggressively, then who knows - we may be able to sucker them into an attack on MIA and then sweep in like Meleet's own vengence.

At any rate, I say be coy about reminding them of the military consequences.

Sir Bugsy · May 18, 2006

Kickbooti said:
I have to agree with jb. If we remind MIA of the reality that aggression against donuts it bespeaks of triangulation at best, cooporation at worst. I say mum until/if MIA starts moving aggressively, then who knows - we may be able to sucker them into an attack on MIA and then sweep in like Meleet's own vengence.

At any rate, I say be coy about reminding them of the military consequences.

Booti, we are going to make you into a Grumpy yet. That is perfect thinking.

Daghdha · May 18, 2006

Is sounds wise, but could I have that stated in a fashion suited for an Idiot. I was very vague about our military alliance w Nut's when I spoke to Fe saying we "have peace at the moment". The reason for this was (my guessing) that MIA might be tempted to attack Nut's if they know we will have to declare on them, i.e. we break the 1000 monkey's treaty instead of them, and they get a chance to hit us when we have our hands full elsewhere.
Please confirm if this is what KB's post is about, and if not, explain the difference so I can adjust my conversations w Fe.......thank you :goodjob:

Edit: This has been sent to Homer of the Nut's

Greetings Galore

We have spotted an MIA galley on the northern shores. It is located so that our ship movements are being obstructed, i.e. the damn Greeks are in the way. This might lead to some small adjustments regarding the coordinated attack that we are planning. Please contact scoutsout or Grahamiam to discuss this.
We would also like to inform you that some disinformation has been sent to MIA. In short we have stated that Nut's and KISS are trading techs piece by piece and that KISS has no obligations to continue this. We have said you are fair in trading, but that we had a better deal with MIA. We have not said anything about our military alliance, only that we have peace "for now". Also that we are surprised that Doughnut's haven't siezed the opportunity to join the war and gain some land. Finally we are implying that the KISS camp is in deep trouble, hence the change of POTKISS, but that is just smoke and mirrors.
Hopefully MIA will turn to you for a tech agreement and we can have them research the upper tree for us, while KISS/Nut's share the lower part. Whomp and Bede has an idea on this that they would like to share.

All the Best

Daghdha
POTKISS, sorta...

Kickbooti · May 18, 2006

Sorry Dag, I reread my post and the english even confused me.

What I meant to say is that we should avoid any mention of military cooporation with the Nuts when speaking to MIA.

I know that MIA's refusal to sign a peace treaty with the Nust is frustrating them and somewhat worriesome (Hmm. I wonder why they are shy about signing long-term peace deals when an invasion seems immanent :mischief:

It seems the Greeks are learning).

I know it was commented that mention of our agreement with the Nuts may prevent any Greek attack on the Iriqois.

My thought is to NOT mention our agreement with the Nuts at all. If/when the Greeks make moves as though they are going to attack the Nuts we may want to make a discouraging comment or two (especially if Dag is still POTKISS - he's a builder after all :ar15:

). Then, IF they do make a major commitment of troops to invade the Nuts - hit them hard.

Toward this end, when we start operation Pimple Popper (our coordinated attack with the Nuts) I could write some flaming criticism of the Nuts in the Crazy Eye - just for disinformation mind you. I bring it up for condisideration and so that somebody could mention it to the Nuts before hand.

Whomp · May 18, 2006

Weewho!!! We have more war!

Robi D said:
(Sent to scoutsout, Whomp and Tubby Rower)

Hi guys,

Just wanted to update up on the coming turn. After establishing an embassy, we took the oppertunity to have a bit of a poke around and found that the jungle cities were virtually unguarded but they had some pikes on the way to reenforce them (i guess they noticed our troop build up) so we have declered war this turn. And everything went to plan both cities attacked are under our control without the loss of any units on our side. Also a third city is under siege which we are confident of taking next turn (unless they raze it themselves). While not exactly as we planned in my talk with you scout and Whomp we felt there was a window of oppertunity to take the cities without challenge. I still believe this can work to your benifit as it will move troops away from their coast and centre towards the jungle.

As far as the capital goes (i think kuningas has sent the full rundown) i was pretty close in my guess. It should make you guys happy to find no ones home, it means if you can break their frontline you will rip through them in a few turns.
All the best
Robi D, acting Foreign Minister

jb1964 · May 18, 2006

Can I get a recap of who's fighting whom?

D'nut has just declared on ?
MIA is fighting ?
KISS is clobbering ?

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