Diplomacy II Module Packs

[AbsintheRed]

Great, I don't like that LH either. I always hope he or someone else makes a much improved version
So Songhai, Australia and Iran are fix, and then this means Suppiliuma and your new LH for the Hittites.
I think Minoa will also have 2 LHs with Satur and King Minos, but what about Congo? I only know IgorS's LH for them...

 

[The Almighty dF]

Great, I don't like that LH either. I always hope he or someone else makes a much improved version
So Songhai, Australia and Iran are fix, and then this means Suppiliuma and your new LH for the Hittites.
I think Minoa will also have 2 LHs with Satur and King Minos, but what about Congo? I only know IgorS's LH for them...

Congo has Mobutu Sese Seko as well.

 

[The Capo]

Well, I always thought of Alfonso as a client-King of Portugal, so was never all that keen on including him anyway. But Congo already has two leaders, it has Lukeni lua Nimi and Mobutu Sese Seko.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Just checked, the first semi-puppet king was Afonso I in Kongo.
But IgorS made Nzinga a Nkuwu, who was the father of Afonso.
He was king of Kongo when the portugese arrived, he made contact with them.
Was baptized near the end of his life as Joao I, but nevertheless he was a quite succesful ruler before the Portugese
So, if you like the LH, then we can easily add him too

 

[The Almighty dF]

Just checked, the first semi-puppet king was Afonso I in Kongo.
But IgorS made Nzinga a Nkuwu, who was the father of Afonso.
He was king of Kongo when the portugese arrived, he made contact with them.
Was baptized near the end of his life as Joao I, but nevertheless he was a quite succesful ruler before the Portugese
So, if you like the LH, then we can easily add him too

Could be neat, he could be used as a relatively more peaceful Congo leader.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Maybe it's a good idea if I post this here too, as this is a better place to discuss the civilizations.
The other thread is mainly for the leaders

The colours mean:
Blue - Already included in the main release
Green - These will be definitely in, but I would include those civs even in the main version, not just add as extra civs
Yellow - Capo already mentioned earlier that they probably will be included in one of the modpacks
Purple - Just some other ideas I grabbed from various sources. Note that almoust all of them is an already made civ with finished LHs (or at least there is a WIP/plan for them). I tried to pick those only

Spoiler :

EDIT: updated the Swahili
added West Indies, Bahamas, Lybia

 

[The Almighty dF]

Might as well move mine in here too, then:
Of the suggested purple civs, I fully agree with:
Croatia*
Slovenia
Bangladesh
Burma*
Kazakh*
Iraq*
Seleucid
Somalia*
Swahili*
Uganda* (Come on, just imagine playing as Idi "I'm going to pick you up and bite you" Amin.)
Jamaica
Olmec
Bolivia
Malaysia

* Means I -really- agree with this.
Especially the African civs, as we really need more for that continent.

And my suggestions for the Just For Fun section:
CSA
Soviet Union
Nazi Germany
Utah (Mormons)

 

[AbsintheRed]

Yeah, I like those you suggested
What I would also really like to see eventually, is Bohemia/Czech Rep. (with adding a medieval ruler too) and Palmyra. Ekmek plans to update her Zenobia too

Btw, we have no leaders for Swahili, not even plans yet AFAIK. Any ideas for that?

 

[The Almighty dF]

Yeah, I like those you suggested
What I would also really like to see eventually, is Bohemia/Czech Rep. (with adding a medieval ruler too) and Palmyra. Ekmek plans to update her Zenobia too

Btw, we have no leaders for Swahili, not even plans yet AFAIK. Any ideas for that?

Jomo Kenyatta would make a great modern leader for the Swahili people.
It could be Jomo Kenyatta (representing Kenya) and Idi Amin (representing Uganda).... and maybe Juvénal Habyarimana to represent Rwanda.

Sadly, only one of those (Idi Amin) has a leaderhead.
However, that way we can turn -three- possible civs into just one.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Hmm, what's the connection of Swahili and Kitara then?
In CivGold Isaza and Idi Amin are leaders of the Kitara civ.
I wrote the Kitara/Uganda line based on this in the sheet

 

[The Almighty dF]

Hmm, what's the connection of Swahili and Kitara then?
In CivGold Isaza and Idi Amin are leaders of the Kitara civ.
I wrote the Kitara/Uganda line based on this in the sheet

Kitara was (possibly, we're not entirely sure on its factuality) an empire that encompasses the same region I was suggesting a Swahili civ cover.

Edit: I should go ahead and say I'm against using that name for the civ because, as I said, the reality of Kitara is still entirely debatable.

 

[AbsintheRed]

So the Swahili could cover the Kitara (if they existed), and modern day Uganda, Kenya and Rwanda? Sounds good to me

Already have Isaza (maybe rename him if needed) and Idi Amin LHs, so we would only need Kenyatta

 

[The Almighty dF]

So the Swahili could cover the Kitara (if they existed), and modern day Uganda, Kenya and Rwanda? Sounds good to me

Already have Kitara (maybe rename him if needed) and Idi Amin LHs, so we would only need Kenyatta

Yeah, the Swahili region is basically just the Great Lakes of Africa. So a Swahili civ could basically just have any leader from that area not covered by another civ.
Could you post a screenshot of Kitara's LH?

 

[AbsintheRed]

It's Methyl's Poseidon reskinned. Saw in CivGold, so no screen of him here on CFC, but here is Poseidon.

EDIT: I would also consider adding Venice, as we could have another Seafaring leader(s) that way

 

[cybrxkhan]

The Capo, if you're thinking of adding the Swahili, I made them as a civ for WoL, and I could release them as a CotW for your future use.

 

[The Capo]

So far this is really discussion about things that are hypothetical or wouldn't happen for quite some time. So I am not going to agree to anything just yet. There's nothing wrong with discussing plans for module packs though. But since everyone knows Module Pack I, and the Americas for that matter, Module Pack II will include the following civs:

• Australia
• Congo
• Iran
• Minoans
• Songhai
• Hittites
• Hausa-Fulani

There will be two new LHs made for this module pack (maybe three, but most likely two) which will be a new Hittite leader (who has yet to be named) and Shah Abbas.

 

[Vortilex]

I'm glad to see Austria listed as green Peru and Inca go together pretty well, though, I don't think they ought to be two different civs. The native Peruvian can trace his or her roots back to the Inca, Aymara, or one of the many jungle tribes.

 

[Vortilex]

Who are the Hausa-Fulani?

 

[The Capo]

I'm glad to see Austria listed as green Peru and Inca go together pretty well, though, I don't think they ought to be two different civs. The native Peruvian can trace his or her roots back to the Inca, Aymara, or one of the many jungle tribes.

While Peru will not be part of the Americas module pack, there is a good chance they'll make it into one of the ensuing module packs. The only reason they won't be in the Americas is because the Americas already had six civs, and now I'm add one more to each pack, and they're getting Chile. I know that probably pisses you off as a Peruvian, but I have two Chilean LHs and not a whole lot to work with for Peru. I love Peru though, I've been to Lima twice with my old college roomate, who was Peruvian.

Who are the Hausa-Fulani?

I might just make it the Hausa, but here is a link to the wikipedia article about the Hausa-Fulani.

 

[Vortilex]

Oh, okay. No, I have no problems with Chile over Peru, I'm 25% Peruvian, but I don't like to get involved in politics, save for a bunch of dead guys who either did my family good or bad, but one of my best friends is Korean-Chilean. Plus, who would one add as a LH from Peru? Fujimori? Velasco-Alvarado (god no!)? García-Pérez? San Martín? Bolívar?