Direct tv letting go ad

[warpus]

If it makes you feel better, that is far more a perception than a reality. The people who draw all that "oh boy are you gonna get it in prison" satisfaction would be sorely disappointed to find out what prison is actually like. Not saying that rape doesn't happen or that prison is a great place to live, but it isn't what it is commonly made out to be either.

Even if public perception is way off about the frequency, it's still accepted by people as .. a normal thing. That is very troubling. Nobody speaks out against it either for some reason. Rape, just accepted, like apple pie

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Actually, that brings up a somewhat interesting scenario - assuming prostitution was legal, would attempting to swindle a prostitute by not paying count as some kind of sexual assault or battery?

I think it would have to be addressed under contract law rather than criminal law.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Even if public perception is way off about the frequency, it's still accepted by people as .. a normal thing. That is very troubling. Nobody speaks out against it either for some reason. Rape, just accepted, like apple pie

Oh, no doubt. As I said, the people who are all gung ho about "he'll get his in prison" would be sorely disappointed, and I for one would consider their disappointment to be absolutely delicious.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Ad annoys me.

Didn't pick up any sign that he cheated. In fact, the logic of the ad seems to require that he was smothering her, tying her down. And she's breaking free.

I swear that in an earlier version of it, the guitar breaks too, that the company realized that was over the top and refilmed with only the cable box being destroyed.

 

[civvver]

Ok so it's not just me. Good to know. Sometimes I watch things and wonder if I'm overreacting. The service being advertised kind of sucks anyway. It's direct tv now, which is streaming direct tv over the internet so you have no dish, no box. Thing is you still need internet and att internet compared to cable stinks. Thus the product stinks. If you go cable ala cart plus the streaming service I doubt you will save anything, certainly not more than doing like cable plus hulu.

 

[rah]

That's the important aspect of this. They really have nothing concrete to advertise to convince you, so they have to rely on emotional appeal. It's like when companies rely on we have the best customer service. Does it really matter how good your customer service is if the product sucks. (except for the fact that you will need more service) As much as I'm not a great fan of comcast, their gig speed internet is really hard to top.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

If it makes you feel better, that is far more a perception than a reality. The people who draw all that "oh boy are you gonna get it in prison" satisfaction would be sorely disappointed to find out what prison is actually like. Not saying that rape doesn't happen or that prison is a great place to live, but it isn't what it is commonly made out to be either.

This is encouraging.

But the fact that it's ingrained in our culture is a despicable thing.

Actually, that brings up a somewhat interesting scenario - assuming prostitution was legal, would attempting to swindle a prostitute by not paying count as some kind of sexual assault or battery?

I think it would have to be addressed under contract law rather than criminal law.

I think it's rape. The same as if a person changed their mind mid-act and asked for it to stop. The prostitute agreed to do something under certain conditions. They would not have done it for free. Therefore it's rape because it was deception.

And it's a breach of contract law.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I think it's rape. The same as if a person changed their mind mid-act and asked for it to stop. The prostitute agreed to do something under certain conditions. They would not have done it for free. Therefore it's rape because it was deception.

And it's a breach of contract law.

The original premise included prostitution being legal. It's possible that I assigned too much importance to that, but in my mind once that's done the situation in question is hard to measure beyond the obvious dispute over payment. Basically I was distracted by the cans of worms. If we call this rape, does it become not rape anymore if a late payment is made? What if a check written in good faith is bounced because of an error by the bank? Is it rape until the check is covered? If so, who was the rapist?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like treating this as "just another transaction," but legalization does effectively require that it be treated, first, as a transaction with all the applicable laws that apply to transactions.



A difficult hypothetical.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Fair points that I have not easy answers for

 

[metatron]

I also dislike this type of violent female meme. Tee-hee, lack of self-control is cute. It's not cute, it's insulting to women, encouraging bad behavior.

That.

I think it's rape.

My green part of the planet perspective may be warped, but i think...

It's not. And virtually no whore agrees with your argument.
It's still a criminal offense, in the good old fraud and theft sense. And neither cops nor judges will look kindly on your case. You may get treated somewhat ungently actually.

 

[BvBPL]

The ad is a metaphor for modern life, a mirror cast in hard, gray plastic that we hold up to ourselves.

We open on a woman casting her man out by literally casting his possessions on to the curb. They have, presumably, hit something of a rough patch in their relationship. Where some might seek couple’s therapy or a second honeymoon as a means of repair, she is having none of it. Out he goes of her life, in passionate rage of destruction.

And then sits on the bed and turns on the television. Instantly, her woes are salved. The great, glowing box is there to spirit her away from her troubles.

She doesn’t need to call her mom, her friend, or her therapist. She doesn’t need to scream or write bad poetry as a means to express the sorrow and angry she feels. She doesn’t go for a run, get drunk, or eat ice cream to deal with her feelings.

AT&T tells us all she needs to do is sit down and watch television. Direct TV has magically, instantly!, replaced her foregone relationship. She is happy now, bathed in the odd, blue light of her television. It’s what she needed all along.
Our electronic appliances have replaced the need to remember phone numbers, look up directions, comparison shop, send your cousin a real birthday card. Now, according to AT&T, they will also replace your need for an intimate relationship and emotional expression.