Mobby, what JR is doing isn't about disabled vets. It's about the lack of social concern towards everyone else. If people were this upset about social spending cuts to the poor, the world might be a slightly better place.
When the poor do as much for this nation as our veterans have, then i'll climb on board. And I say that as someone who has spent time volunteering to feed the poor, and hand out to them clean clothes; and have even housed homeless mom's with kids in my house so they had a safe place to sleep.
This is where your ignorance of the civilian world really shows. Being an office manager is very much a clerical job that is typically handled by a secretary.
Uhm. Nope. Trust me, i'm looking at job offers at a significant pace right now, and have had HR professionals with decades doing what they do say the same. In fact, jobs that I meet criteria for start at about 50k to 70k where I live.
But I like the fact that you seem to think office managers are just secretarys. Shows your HR cred there.
And if you can find me a civilian secretary that throws grenades, does forced ruck marches, and can hit a man sized target at 300 yards 4 out of 5 times, goes into gas chambers for training, i'd like to see it.
Again, what actual experience do you have in the civilian world that allows you to think that similar jobs are any different?
I didnt join the military till I was 23 Form. Guess what I did prior to that? Wow, I worked. Imagine that. Also, my wife works in the civilian world, as do a huge number of my friends.
And all this really has nothing to do with the actual topic. How exactly does this cause excessive physical and emotional strain on you?
Seriously? Let me ask you a question. As a demograph, why do you think the military experiences physical injury, divorce and suicide at a higher rate than the civilian population? I guess you think its just because soldiers are by default clumsy and immature. Right?
That is what you signed up to do. Hundreds of thousands of other Americans do exactly the same thing as reserve and national guard troops. Do they whine about it?
Ayup, they most certainly do. Why wouldnt they? In many cases, even more so because its not uncommon for their civilian employers attempting to screw them out of a job because of their military service. In fact, they are also a big part of that disability number as they are also covered for injuries suffered in their service to the nation.
Why do you think they would be any different?
If you didn't want to have an active job where you might actually be called to defend your country at some stage as an extremely remote possibility, you should have thought of a different career that wasn't as physically demanding. Millions of people have physically demanding blue collar jobs which require them to do far more than carry a 60 lb backpack for 10 miles every single day of their lives.
Yeah, those secretary jobs you keep talking about do, right?
Btw, Form...what do you do for a living? I mean all this talk about the civilian world and all. If your're going to quiz me about my experience at least have the balls to offer your own up. What experience do you have in the civilian world to validate your opinions here?
And if most of them become injured on the job they become unemployed, frequently without any disability benefits whatsoever.
Then maybe they should have volunteered for a job that did.
But really Form, even civilian employees are compensated for being injured on the job. Even you should know that.
Actually I know quite a bit about it given that my father was a career Army officer and I lived on military bases much of my childhood. You apparently don't have a "clue" what I know or don't know.
All that does is explain your vehement hatred of the military - not some special insight that you might have gotten from it. In fact, everyone here has seen so many ignorant comments from you about the military, its fairly obvious to all you didnt glean anything from that experience. I'm sure as an officers kid on a base you hung out with the grunts at the range and in the barracks. Yeah, sure you did.