Discussion about Prince Philip (from Random Raves)

He's five years older than the Queen, so 96, I believe.

(For context, the Queen Mother was 102 when she passed.)
 
Arakhor said:
Prince Charles is usually seen as being stuffy, interfering or somewhat boring, charges that are not usually levied at Prince Philip.
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Yes, well, that's because properly brought up people know the difference between being boring and being a bore.
 
I didn't find the quotes in OP that offensive. Was that the worst?
 
Those are samples, Snerkums. His Highness has always distinguished himself by making inappropriate comments or simply saying things that would be called idiotic ramblings if spewed by anybody who was not of royal blood.
 
Hmm, our royals are always so appropriate. Very boring and it also makes it hard to be a devout republican. You can't kill the king when he's urging the people to be all tolerant and stuff.
 
Oh, well, His Highness has always been refreshingly frank about his racist worldview, as you might glean from the comments above.
 
Those are certainly not his worst comments over the years, but Philip has complained that the media tried to vilify him in the past, taking quotes out of context or simply manufacturing outrage. Some of his comments are clearly intended in jest, whether or not they're received that way.
 
One does wonder, of course, whether racist humour is a marker of racism or not.
 
As I said at the start, he is a very old man who is going to have very different views, some of which are likely going to be unpalatable to others.
 
Society was a little more racist when he was growing up.
 
And when he was an adult... and middle-aged and even a senior citizen. That's one of the disadvantages of living so long.
 
Takhisis said:
Those are samples, Snerkums. His Highness has always distinguished himself by making inappropriate comments or simply saying things that would be called idiotic ramblings if spewed by anybody who was not of royal blood.
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My impression had generally been that the comments were frequently called idiotic ramblings, precisely because they are spewed by a royal. I certainly don't begrudge the media for putting everything said in every public engagement by the royals under the spotlight; that's the price that family pays for maintaining their claim to the throne(s). But I suspect people would care a lot less about his frequent faux pas if he were not a royal.
 
He certainly has said indefensible things, such as after the Dunblane shootings, but the press do like their stories. His famous line warning students in China about being 'slitty-eyed' was apparently a reference to Chinese students who make comments about being 'round-eyed' and had no effect on our diplomacy with China, I believe, but it wasn't exactly reported in that fashion.
 
Only if you apply the same standard to celebrities. :)
 
Mod fight! Mod fight! Mod fight!
*ahem*
Arakhor said:
As I said at the start, he is a very old man who is going to have very different views, some of which are likely going to be unpalatable to others.
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Oh, of course. But as Camikaze says:
Camikaze said:
But I suspect people would care a lot less about his frequent faux pas if he were not a royal.
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His Highness could make a bit more of an effort.
 
Quite possibly, yes, but given that he's been doing the job for 65 years now, having 30 or 40 memorable gaffes is really not that much at all. How many did Bush Junior notch up in just eight years?
 
Arakhor said:
Only if you apply the same standard to celebrities. :)
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Sure! Celebrities are actively involved in society and are "self-made", however. Royalty is restricted to being royalty for the most part.

Anyone can be a celebrity. You have to have special blood to be royalty, or have the good fortune of marrying someone with special blood and then you're considered royalty by proxy.
 
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