Django Unchained

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It is a fine film which is able to weave such an intricate and thoughtful plot such as that of DJANGO UNCHAINED. The scenes, in which Django shoots people and their bodies explode are exceptional displays of which the art [of filmmaking] is capable of. Truly this “Quintin Tarentino” is a master of his craft and one of the great visionaries of our age.

Share your thoughts on this wonderful film of which we have been blessed with viewing.
 
Well we have a movie thread. And I wouldn't go so far to call Quintin Tarentino a visionary. In fact, who is "Quintin"? Semantics aside though I watched the movie and like every other Tarentino movie he is great at catching angles and making movies feel like a piece of art. But beyond that there are so many gaping plotholes in each one of his movies its sort of hard to call him a visionary.
 
I haven't seen it, but I did read Anthony Lane's review. He makes a great point that Tarantino is expressive in his portrayals of evil, but somewhat uncreative and repetitive in determining how to combat that evil. What defeats evil, for Tarantino, isn't good, valor, friendship, hard work, or anything like that, but instead cool defeats evil. Which I think is a very exact observation of Tarantino's work.
 
I often wonder if Tarantino was mistreated as a child.

‘Django Unchained’ director Quentin Tarantino: Blaming Hollywood for violence is ‘disrespectful’ to Newtown shooting victims

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The best defense is a good offense?
 
It's not so much what Tarantino is saying, but more about how he is saying it and in what context: the release of his latest ultra-violent flick.

Let's face it. He has become filthy rich and internationally famous by making ultra-violent films. He can't even seem to be able to make anything but ultra-violent films. His most famous work is the least violent by far, despite also being quite violent. And he hasn't even come close to making anything similar since then almost two decades decades ago.

If Tarantino really wanted to show respect for the recent spate of mass murders, I would think he would be keeping an extremely low profile about Sandy Hook for a while.
 
What's the different between ultra violent and regular violent?
 
You have to rub on a special ointment to protect yourself from ultraviolent.
 
It's a good thing violent videogames and movies only exist in the United States, otherwise this CULTURE OF VIOLENCE thing would be complete rubbish.
 
Movie violence != actual violence and even teenagers are able to realize that.

Really, the over-the-top "ultra-violence" from Tarantino's works or similar directors (like, say, Verhoeven) is a lot less dangerous than more subdued, but realistical depictions. And even then you have to have a problem with perceiving reality to process them as RL violence.
 
What's the different between ultra violent and regular violent?
You haven't seen A Clockwork Orange?

"The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence."

"What we were after now was the old surprise visit. That was a real kick and good for laughs and lashings of the old ultraviolence."

"You needn't take it any further, sir. You've proved to me that all this ultraviolence and killing is wrong, wrong, and terribly wrong. I've learned me lesson, sir. I've seen now what I've never seen before. I'm cured! Praise Bog! I'm cured!"

Sam Peckinpah was probably the first director of this genre, even though Straw Dogs is probably considered to be quite tame by today's standards.

It's a good thing violent videogames and movies only exist in the United States, otherwise this CULTURE OF VIOLENCE thing would be complete rubbish.
I would completely agree is certainly absurd to blame it for creating tragedies like Sandy Hook. But it does seem to help inure some elements of the public from the atrocities of war in particular while even glorifying them. I guess it is all in your perspective.

When I watch classic war movies like All Quiet On the Western Front, A Red Badge of Courage, Platoon, Das Boot, and the like I see the negative aspects of war. When others watch them, they see a vindication for their own views and a desire to engage in even more wars.

When I watch Quentin Tarantino or Steven Segal movies, I see the negative side of violence. I see people you don't want to emulate in real life. I see the need for police and a criminal justice system to protect us from those who really are violent, even the cops themselves in some circumstances. Others have just the opposite reaction.

It is much like the reaction to the movie Boyz in the Hood when it first came out. Many whites were very scared that it would promote even more racial violence and were very opposed to it even being released. But it was actually a cautionary tale that promoted just the opposite feelings in most who actually watched it.
 
I would completely agree is certainly absurd to blame it for creating tragedies like Sandy Hook. But it does seem to help inure some elements of the public from the atrocities of war while even glorifying them. I guess it is all in your perspective. When I watch classic war movies like All Quiet On the Western Front, A Red Badge of Courage, Platoon, and the like I see the negative aspects of war. When others watch them, they see a vindication for their own views.

Perhaps you've already noticed it since long ago, but I always get the feeling that movies that are universally critically acclaimed, aside from being technically accomplished, can be easily interpreted from a great variety of viewpoints or convince a great variety of people to embrace the one viewpoint of the film.
 
It is very likely, if not certain, that the violence we see depicted on screen affects us on a subliminal level. While it cannot be proven that it acts to promote violent behaviour, you can't rule out the probability that it does. It is telling that the most eager to defend such graphic depictions are those who partake in it themselves; it stands to reason that they are biased and unwilling to look at things in a logical manner.
 
When I was growing up, I remember thinking how silly it was to blame cartoons like The Road Runner for how violent some kids were. Yet that was a very common complaint. It was much like banning dancing in hopes that high school kids wouldn't engage in sex.

Now I know all you folks are the right kind of parents
I'm gonna be perfectly frank
Would you like to know what kind of conversation goes on
While they're loafin' around that hall
They'll be tryin' out Bevo, tryin' out Cubebs
Tryin' out Tailor Mades like cigarette fiends
And braggin' all about how they're gonna
Cover up a tell-tale breath with Sen-Sen
One fine night they leave the pool hall
Headin' for the dance at the Arm'ry
Libertine men and scarlet women and ragtime
Shameless music that'll drag your son, your daughter
Into the arms of a jungle animal instinct massteria!
Friends, the idle brain is the devil's playground, trouble!

Ya got trouble, folks, right here in River City
With a capital 'T' and that rhymes with 'P'
And that stands for 'pool'
It's always something...
 
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