DMI IX - The Vampire Lord and the Tower of Mastery (FfH2)

[Monkeyfinger]

We aren't creative.

If we settle the jumbopig city on the desert tile, we won't be able to improve or work the pigs until we build a monument and wait 5 turns.

I'd rather avoid that. I wouldn't give up a ton to avoid it, but it's not like the city gains a huge amount from being settled on the desert.

And it probably won't matter, but in FFH, deserts cause a 25% defense penalty to any unit on them. This applies even if a city is sitting on the desert. So it will have weaker defense settled that way.

 

[Rex rgis of Ter]

Lurker's Comment:

Seeing as you are going for a ToM, is it not wise to start heading down the Ship techs? Establishing colonies can get their palace mana, which is quite useful. As a religion I'd go for OO and later CoE(Though not adopting it).

Looking forward to this interesting game.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

Nothing to see here.This post never contained anything.

 

[reverend oats]

Really sorry guys, I need a skip this round, or it'll be a long delay.

 

[·Imhotep·]

No problem, reverend.

The Roster:

1. Imhotep
2. Ozbenno >> JUST PLAYED
3. reverend_oats >> SKIPPED
4. Ralph Jackson >> UP NOW
5. Immaculate >> ON DECK
6. Monkeyfinger

 

[·Imhotep·]

As it's relatively early in this SG (only 61 turns played) I'd like to call a team decision. FfH 0.31 is out, and 0.30 won't be supported with patches any longer. Seeing that our start is somewhat not this optimal the thought came to my mind if the team wants to start the game anew, this time with 0.31. Please post your thoughts on it. I'm happy either way, but this is one of the things that need team consensus.

Imhotep

 

[Immaculate]

I've got some offline games i want to finish up using 0.30, but eventually i would like to switch; either way is fine w/ me.

i.

 

[Ozbenno]

I will probably end up with both versions running, so don't mind which way we go.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=268326

In summary, installing .31 leaves .30k completely untouched.

The only reason to switch is if we want so badly to try .31 that we're willing to abandon this game.

I cast a vote for toughing this crappy start out. Do bear in mind that .31 is new and probably filled with nasty bugs and balance issues that will be fixed through a long series of savegame-breaking patches. I already found one myself: The pyre of the seraphic can be razed in .31, and if anyone does it a horde of pissed off, non-expiring fire elementals spawn. If this happens sufficiently early, they rage out and eliminate a couple civs...

 

[reverend oats]

I do not care either way.

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Ok Got it...... but the question of what "it" is depends on the decision re 031.

Monkey Fingers's warning re bugs 'n' balance sound compelling to me so I vote for pressing on with what we have got.

Now as I am very noobish at FFH I will try and lay me plans out in detail for detection today and play tomorrow.

Ralph

 

[·Imhotep·]

I think Monkeyfinger is right. We'll go with 0.30 as it has no crucial bugs and won't be patched game breakingly.

Imhotep

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Now not sure if we were tempting fate with discussions of bugs etc but.....


I am having trouble opening either of Immie's or Oz' saves.

I can start a FFH2 game easily enough and here is my build whihc looks right (I dont think I have unwittingly gone 2 031!!)

but I get this crash when opening the saves.

 

[Ozbenno]

Have you got patch "k" Ralph? If you can start up other games I think that's the most likely reason.

There was a server crash today which affected uploads/downloads, maybe try and download the save again (and re-install patch "k").

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

OK will give it a try.

Cheers

Ralph

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Struggling to find Patch k as a last attempt having redownloaded and reinstalled.

Anybody got a Link...

Ralph

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

All fixed, still dont know what was wrong but redoing everything worked. Now just need to play the turns!!

Ralph

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Ok now its working we need to agree a Research Path (don't want to mess up a tough start with my FFH noobness).

Capital - Settler in 8 go to 1 W of pigs then what.. Breeding Pit - Scout?


Research Animal Handling - Ancient Chants feels best.

Will play and report this evening so suggestion gratefull received.

Ralph

 

[Ozbenno]

Animal Husbandry, Ancient Chants, Mysticism would be a good path to follow I think.

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Well apologies for not much of a theme story but having burned my free time fixing FFH I had to squeeze this in between Egg Hunts and gorging on ridiculous amounts of chocolate.

IHT

Switch research path to Animal Husbandry then Ancient Chants.

Turn 64 Brave Scout kills a bear but unfortunately later falls prey to a Barb Warrior

Turn 66 With the farm finished take the civic switch.

Turn 70 with Settler finished start a replacement scout before a breeding pit.

Turn 72 Nubia founded

Turn 76 Orthos enters

Turn 78 Horses near capital as we finish AH.

Played through to turn 88 with the finish of Ancient Chants. Nubia has started on an Obelisk for the border pop.

Our new scout has explored a bit and found a skeleton!!