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Do You Hold A Grudge?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by DAC, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. AJ11

    AJ11 Emperor

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    Some of the diplo texts are pretty funny, especially the "sing Kumbayah" one. I make it a point to kill whoever that says that to me pronto, or at least make his life extremely miserable (here, Monty, Monty, Monty...!).
     
  2. fathertuck

    fathertuck Warlord

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    Shaka and Montezuma are probably the most hated leaders in the game. I personally have a love/hate relationship with them both. I love to hate them that is. ;)

    edit: btw, same goes for my ex-Gf
     
  3. Colonel Mustard

    Colonel Mustard Condiment Pirate Mouse

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    ^I've never had a problem with Shaka, although he rarely shows up in my games. I've just finished a game where he gifted me Artillery and Stealth. :smug:
     
  4. salty mud

    salty mud Deity

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    Cyrus always annoys me. He has this habit of expanding very rapidly and often over the resources you were planning to settle near. Before you know it, he has half the map, a large army and a substantial tech lead. Gah.
     
  5. s.bernbaum

    s.bernbaum Mostly lurking

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    Same here. Although I don't see Shaka very often, he usually either ends up as one of my friends or is so far away that the only time I see him is when making trade deals. Of course, maybe it will be otherwise in the future.
     
  6. Moldath

    Moldath Chieftain

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    My first game, you declared war on me for no good reason. Every game I since then, you have been there. You may begin by acting nice towards me, but it is all a sham. You declare war, and I end it. Goodbye, Isabella.
     
  7. Ice_Tyrant

    Ice_Tyrant Prince

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    Moctezuma. I always play on random personalities though. Never to bad about grudges though really. Though I still hate him, I have to tell myself it just looks like him. Every game I had with him before I started using Random Personalities was awful. Though. it's hard to hate him too since I won my first non-time victory with him conquering the world.

    Also, not as much of a hatred, but Genghis Khan. Everytime I see him I just get scared. I think it comes from the whole taking over 22% of the world thing the read guy did. I get worried whenever I see him that he will end me. Though I never see him in my games usually, lol. Thist ime though, it seems that he plans on doing the whole ending thing to me.We don't even have a border, we're seperated by the Byzantines. Yet he still is sending a stack of doom at me.
     
  8. MaxWar

    MaxWar King

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    Personally I am not very inclined to try random personality. Sure, once you know the personality of all the leaders it give some predictability to the game, but i feel like consistent personalities also give the game more charm and ambiance. More like characters in a story instead of random AIs in a game :p
     
  9. thecaesar

    thecaesar Will appear randomly

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    I agree. I enjoy making fun of Monty's idiocy. Doesn't everyone? A peaceful monty, or even a sane one, just feels wrong...:lol:
     
  10. Minigrinch

    Minigrinch Chieftain

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    For some reason I quickly become friends after meeting Sury in every game, but within 50 turns we are mortal enemies. Mainly because he always either vassals to or vassalises a rival of mine. I swear he has the strongest compulsion to vassalise out of all the AI, he submits even when hes doing well. :S
     
  11. thecaesar

    thecaesar Will appear randomly

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    I have noticed that too...
     
  12. Minigrinch

    Minigrinch Chieftain

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    The trick with Izzy is sharing her religion, after that shes one of the strongest allies you can make.
     
  13. salty mud

    salty mud Deity

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    Izzy and Justinian would make the perfect couple, I think.

    If they share the same religion, that is.
     
  14. Jamini

    Jamini Chieftain

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    Mind, sharing her religion will probably make everyone ELSE in the world hate you. Then she'll hate you again when you go to free religion due to all the negative modifiers you accumulate for refusing to gift her every tech you've ever researched ever.

    I find the best way to handle her is to swap to her religion, refuse to give her anything, be nice to the non-zealots in the game, then invade her as soon as you have Muskets or Rifles. But that's just me.


    My least favorite rival is Saladin. He's a Zealot, he's no slouch when it comes to building military/teching, and protective makes it a pain to properly invade him until very late in the game.

    Aside from that, I generally do my best to entirely destroy Cathrine when she shows up in my games. She's too dangerous to not attack, and even if you vassalize her she will still constantly spam spies to pillage your resources and poison your wells. The game is better off without her.
     
  15. GA econ FTW

    GA econ FTW Warlord

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    from AJ11: Some of the diplo texts are pretty funny, especially the "sing Kumbayah" one. I make it a point to kill whoever that says that to me pronto, or at least make his life extremely miserable (here, Monty, Monty, Monty...!).

    I think my fave diplo text ever came from vanilla civ IV, when I was just starting out, had not even the slightest clue about diplo, I'm just running around on warrior difficulty, declaring on EVERYBODY....I couldn't finish cyrus off for some reason, so I accepted peace while I beat on some others, then returned to him....if there wasn't a civ ON the planet that still wasn't ruins who WASN'T furious with me, it was a miracle....so I open the diplo screen with cyrus (why doesn't anyone want to TRADE wif me...snuffle...:*( )....and cyrus says:

    I have three words for you....."Increase. your. medication! "
     
  16. thecaesar

    thecaesar Will appear randomly

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Soon I will have a screenie of how much Kublai Khan hates me in my most recent game. Possibly tonight. I challenge you to guess how many negative diplo points I have with him, and I didn't even declare war on him!!! He makes me so mad...:mad:
     
  17. GA econ FTW

    GA econ FTW Warlord

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    I've made COUNTLESS demands on a leader (even a vassal) once below pleased to drive their diplo to uber-furious....only way to get rid of some of those vassals once they've outgrown their usefulness.
     
  18. thecaesar

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    Yes, but just to make it clear, I made no demands of him, I am the same religion as him, and I'm on Britain while he is in Europe!!! (played RFC Earth map with random starting spots). He just flat out refuses to even try being nice... The only thing I did to provoke him was to refuse his urgings to DoW on the founder of our religion.

    He DoW'ed me, as well as several others in our religion, when I had just gotten Iron Working. I am now almost done with assembly line, and despite the fact that he has over 100 war weariness, and I have made a permanent alliance with the dutch who are the largest and most powerful civ on earth, he refuses to make peace for any price lower than two higher-end techs!! HE'S EVIL.

    I think that it has something to do with the fact that a city sits in disputed land between us, it has revolted against him and tried to join me at least 10 times, and he refused to let them. That is likely the cause of all this...
     
  19. thecaesar

    thecaesar Will appear randomly

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    Here ya go...

    Notice the "Past events have drawn our people apart". I think that's from the city revolting...
     

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  20. AJ11

    AJ11 Emperor

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    Wipe him out?
     

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