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Download database restructuring

Discussion in 'Civ2 - Scenario Creation' started by The_J, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. Blake00

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    Awesome! Thank you so much @The_J ! If there's anything you guys can't auto decipher if it's ToT or non-ToT either by it's files or title, send a list of them my way and I'll do a manual check. :)
     
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  2. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Super Moderator Supporter

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    Not the scenarios though, that is done already ;).
     
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  3. Blake00

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    Yeah I was thinking modpacks and graphics etc. :)

    Oh and what about scenarios with dead downloads? How are you handling them since you can't get the files to see whether their ToT or not?

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  4. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Super Moderator Supporter

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    I have the list, so I can easily check this manually.
    A part links to scenario league pages, so I can chek the download still, and move it accordingly.
    For truly dead links, I've asked in the interal moderators subforum if we need a "dysfunct mods" category per Civ section, or if there is any other way (besides re-uploads, which is something else we are discussion), but haven't come to a conclusion.
     
  5. Blake00

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    No worries mate, let me know how it goes as I probably have or can get quite a lot of the files for those truly dead downloads. That the was the other B topic of my original thread as I reckon I can help with that. :)

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  6. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Super Moderator Supporter

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    As soon as everything's re-organized, I'll have a look which scenarios are truly lost, who of the creators is active/inactive, and if maybe someone has the files still. We still need to decide among the moderators, but there is the option that we might re-upload recovered scenarios of inactive authors (active authors would first be asked themself, if they have it on their own, or if they give consent, or not, etc.; Not so easy, as you can see).
     
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    I'm late to the party but I support this decision wholeheartedly :)

    Personally I'd argue that inactive author works should simply be reuploaded - in most cases the readmes will say we're free to do so if properly credited. I am only aware of one author (Michael Jeszenka) who had requested that his works be removed. I would argue that his wishes should be granted, or at least have someone scrub the files of his name and upload as "anonymous" if the scenario itself is to be saved. I suspect his motivation had to do with the fact that he was active as a scenario designer when he was a younger teen and used his real name. Not all of us want to own that ;)
     
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    I've now made the request to the admins to have the above implemented.
    Please let me know if there are any strong issues with this solution. (the issue with the maps was mentioned, but that can be sorted out on a case by case basis).
    I don't know when the admins get around to do it, but I hope in the coming weeks. After the implementation there will be a few days, when all the current downloads will probably be in the ToT or MGE category, I will need some time to move everything around.

    Thanks everyone for their input, and thanks @Blake00 for initiating it :hatsoff:.
     
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    @leif erikson has implemented the changes today :hatsoff:.
    It seems right now that everything is where it should be.
    Right now all current downloads are in the Civ2: ToT section (besides one test move).
    I will move all the downloads to the right categories over the weekend.

    For some things it will not be obvious for me where it should be, so expect some questions ^^.
     
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    Okay, I've now moved all the scenarios around, and everything else what was obviously labelled.

    For a few things I need help.

    #1 Scenarios labelled as ToT, but automatic check says MGE
    It would be nice if someone could fire these up and confirm if they're MGE or ToT

    #2 Scenarios, where I could not determine it automatically or through the description
    Same here as above, if someone could do a check with their Civ2 version please :).

    #3 Classification issues
    This should be a map, no?

    #4 Lost scenarios
    These downloads seem to be lost (many by the user Ansar). If anyone has these somewhere, please let me know, I can then replace the broken downloads.


    After most of these are done, I guess I'll try to tacke the unit graphics probelm...
     
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  13. The_J

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    Okay, I've had a look at this. The site https://www.civfanatics.com/civ2/download is part of our main page (which you just reach under civfanatics.com).
    It's a wordpress installation (AFAIK), which we use to compile information and post news.
    The linked page is indeed outdated. I'll request permission to fix it (since this is again a different set of permissions than our moderator permissions).
     
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