That is evident even in the demo. It effects Hawke's 'we go south' line at the end of the first bit, as well as his line after defeating Hayder (I believe). A nice little feature, I hope it makes dialogue slightly less bipolar.
Dragon Age 2 - Demo impressions
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Benefactor
Beneficial
Some of the changes are bad, some are good. However I won't be buying it till a mod/patch comes out that puts the tactical camera back in. Can't stand being stuck in zoomed out 3rd person.
I thought the demo was pretty cool. Combat was severely flawed in DA:O, and obviously a big area that Bioware targeted for improvement in DA2. It's likely to be too action-oriented for some folks, given that it's developed for consoles as well as PCs, but by and large I think the changes are going to be very well-received. I wish we'd gotten to see more of the game than just a few fights (inventory and gear especially), but overall I was pleased with what little we got to experience. I like the new leveling / skill interface a lot, that's a big improvement.
I think its probably going to be of a similar quality to Origins and ultimately have different strengths. I very much appreciate the changes though; too many designers are happy to just churn out sequels with little innovation.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Not all innovation is good though.
Indeed, and I'll be surprised if everything new in DA2 is too my liking. I'd still rather have a flawed game that is different to Origins than a flawed game that's the same as it.
Why did they remove it?
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Because they have to do more work. Because its at a different angle than the regular camera they supposedly have to do a "lot" more work making sure the models of the buildings and stuff covers all possible areas of view.
Honestly I didn't see much of a difference between the viewing areas of either camera in DAO.
EDIT: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4376174/1
Afaik they won't release a toolset either >_< Or maybe after release, not sure.
EDIT: Also they barely have any DRM
Honestly I didn't see much of a difference between the viewing areas of either camera in DAO.
EDIT: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4376174/1
Afaik they won't release a toolset either >_< Or maybe after release, not sure.
EDIT: Also they barely have any DRM
Disgustipated
Deity
Communisto
Condottiere
Very pleased with the demo. Combat is much more fun this time around and I am pretty stoked to play a deep rpg with action/adventure style combat. Seems like its gonna mesh well.
That being said I did try it on the Xbox, though I played the last one on my Pc.
That being said I did try it on the Xbox, though I played the last one on my Pc.
So I read a thingy in the latest GI, the writer said it was the "dumb it down for consoles" kind of streamlining, not the one where they get rid of useless clutter. I HATE CONSOLE RPGERS.
Anyway, I have lost faith in Bioware sequels after DA2, because 3 will probably be even worse. I now need a replacement PC elitist RPG gaming company, unless Bioware gets some sense knocked into them (which will probably mean they would no longer be a part of EA. While this would be awesome, it's as likely as ice pigs flying in hell). Any suggestions?
Anyway, I have lost faith in Bioware sequels after DA2, because 3 will probably be even worse. I now need a replacement PC elitist RPG gaming company, unless Bioware gets some sense knocked into them (which will probably mean they would no longer be a part of EA. While this would be awesome, it's as likely as ice pigs flying in hell). Any suggestions?
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
That makes little sense because the original was already not complicated and sold very well no the consoles.
PC Gamer gives it 94 (the game, no the demo). "The best RPG combat ever". These should be taken with a grain of salt obviously.
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Akka
Moody old mage.
My thoughts, word for word.
Unlike DAO that I bought immediately, I'm certainly going to wait and see how this one turns out.
Online reviews are piece of crap that nobody should ever base an opinion on.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
That is a magazine article. But yeah it still wasn't a very in depth review.
DirtyFinger
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Magazines tend to give incredibly high ratings if they happen to host ads for that game. And if a reviewer in an online magazine delivers a less than stellar review, this happens:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/30/rumor-gamespots-editorial-director-fired-over-kane-and-lynch-rev/
So: basing your opinion on a review from someone paid to write good reviews is a no-no.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/30/rumor-gamespots-editorial-director-fired-over-kane-and-lynch-rev/
So: basing your opinion on a review from someone paid to write good reviews is a no-no.
Ah the Kane and Lynch incident, soon to be the Godwin's law of game review discussions.
That being said, yeah, review sites are crap. The discussions in this thread were more useful to me than any review I'd read anywhere else. I actually never read reviews anywhere anymore, except by peers on this board, and stuff like gamefaqs user reviews and metacritic user reviews. Always user reviews when I feel I can trust them.
That being said, yeah, review sites are crap. The discussions in this thread were more useful to me than any review I'd read anywhere else. I actually never read reviews anywhere anymore, except by peers on this board, and stuff like gamefaqs user reviews and metacritic user reviews. Always user reviews when I feel I can trust them.
DAO was less simplified, though. There was enough in it to make me feel good and nerdy inside. I'm saying if DA gets any more simplified it's going to just be a hack'n'slash.
No, it's also what they did to Mass Effect 2. Still a good game, but I don't feel comfortable by calling Bioware games RPGs anymore.
And for the record, it was what the GI guy wrote in the magazine, not online.
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