Drm?

[Dida]

I hope the game won't have ridiculous DRM restrictions like the upcoming Assassin's Creed II. That game I think you must sign in to an online server even to play single player and your save file is located not on your PC but on the server. If you get disconnected, the game will instant kick you out. I do enjoy playing some civ on my laptop during those long flights between my offices in the US and in Asia.

 

[Sian]

aren't it primarily/only Ubisoft that runs the DRM scheme?

 

[Kietharr]

The two big DRM obsessed companies are EA and Ubisoft. Hopefully neither is involved in civ5 in the slightest. If EA is involved civ5 will be the first civ I pirate, out of principle. I have not paid for an EA game (with the exception of ME2 because Bioware, unlike EA, is a good company) since that Spore debacle. The harder you push with that sort of invasive software the harder people work to circumvent it.

Assassin's creed sucks anyways, what a shallow game. I bought it for 5 dollars off of steam around Christmas and I think that's the only use of 5 bucks I've ever regretted.

 

[paradigmx]

2K is a big supporter of DRM, but Firaxis had enough pull with them to remove even the disc check from Civ 4 so I get the feeling Civ 5 will have a disc check, and a serial number.

Personally I think if it was integrated into Windows Live! that would solve the piracy problem, and a solution to multiplayer

 

[kochman]

Requiring the internet to play is BS, any way you cut it.

 

[Sherlock]

'C&C 4' requires constant internet connection, Ubisoft has gone that route, Blizzard now says (unlike what they said earlier) that you must 'log onto' battle-net to PLAY 'SC2'. It's like everyone has lost their minds.

I think 2k has a great opportunity here to be the 'good company' that doesn't f$%k with their customers and can gain many, many sales because of it. I think gamers will 'vote with their dollars' on this one.

 

[Commander Bello]

Anything which will require me to establish or even worse, to maintain an internet connection for playing my games will not make it to my harddrive. End of discussion.

 

[Tee Kay]

DRM or online connection requirement would certainly discourage me from buying the game.

 

[grandad1982]

Beacause of DRM and internet conncection I will never play some games. Why should I need to sign in to play something I own?! Take2 take note.

 

[Arakhor]

Well, technically, you don't own the game, you just own the licence to play the game, but your point is still valid.

 

[Drago Askani]

I'm hoping for either CD in drive and CDkey activation, or one-time online activation. I would prefer the later, but the former would be okay since lots of my games require it already.

 

[kochman]

Anything which will require me to establish or even worse, to maintain an internet connection for playing my games will not make it to my harddrive. End of discussion.

Same here.
Talking about leaving the door wide open!

 

[Ranbir]

Well, what are the DRMs on 2k's recent games?

I bet the Civ community features will play a part. I'm all for it. Wasn't happy that the few people I played Civ 4 multi-player most with didn't buy the game. I don't want these people to play with me, they aren't worthy to have discussions on the game and their opinions on what direction the game should go certainly shouldn't matter, either.

 

[Genocidicbunny]

The two big DRM obsessed companies are EA and Ubisoft. Hopefully neither is involved in civ5 in the slightest. If EA is involved civ5 will be the first civ I pirate, out of principle. I have not paid for an EA game (with the exception of ME2 because Bioware, unlike EA, is a good company) since that Spore debacle. The harder you push with that sort of invasive software the harder people work to circumvent it.

Assassin's creed sucks anyways, what a shallow game. I bought it for 5 dollars off of steam around Christmas and I think that's the only use of 5 bucks I've ever regretted.

I have two points to make to you.

1. You will pirate CiV not out of principle but out of greed. You fail to realize, by pirating the game you would be justifying the DRM. It doesn't matter what arguments you make against that, it is what you will be doing. Not only will your piracy prevent the developer from getting revenue that is due to them (You would after all be playing the game) but it will tell the execs at X publishing company that "Hey, this game got pirated a lot, so on the next one we need to put even stronger DRM." That is how things work in the games industry. Your piracy generally does nothing to have the game companies remove DRM. In other words, you'd be a dolt if you pirate it. If you want to make sure the company doesn't get your money then don't buy the game. If you want to play the game, then buy it. You can't have both.

2. AC1 had one of the better stories in a video game. I have definitely seen better, but at the same time, for 5$ it was one of the better game deals I've gotten. My only regret is that with the idiotic DRM that Ubisoft plans to implement, I will not be buying AC2.

 

[Arakhor]

I'll buy the game and I won't pirate it, but people will pirate it. The stronger the DRM is, the worse the game will be pirated. This is a known fact.

 

[Genocidicbunny]

I'll buy the game and I won't pirate it, but people will pirate it. The stronger the DRM is, the worse the game will be pirated. This is a known fact.

I do not dispute that, what I am disputing is the moronic rationalization behind the piracy. If you're a greedy basterd, just say so! Don't be an idiot along with it.

 

[Dida]

Whether or not people should pirate a game because of DRM is besides the point. The point here is that DRM does not stop piracy, so why bother? It just annoys honest people who pays for the game.

 

[kochman]

Well, what are the DRMs on 2k's recent games?

I bet the Civ community features will play a part. I'm all for it. Wasn't happy that the few people I played Civ 4 multi-player most with didn't buy the game. I don't want these people to play with me, they aren't worthy to have discussions on the game and their opinions on what direction the game should go certainly shouldn't matter, either.

Judgmental much?

 

[Taalen]

Personally I think if it was integrated into Windows Live! that would solve the piracy problem, and a solution to multiplayer

Personally I think that wouldn't be one bit better than the draconian Ubisoft DRM and would definitely convince me not to buy it.

 

[btsplayer]

Personally I think that wouldn't be one bit better than the draconian Ubisoft DRM and would definitely convince me not to buy it.

I've bought all the Civ games since Civ2. But if Civ5 requires internet connection, then will be last game I ever bought (or played) in the series. I hope this will not happen.