Early release of BTS?!?

All of the European and Australian stores seem to say the 20th while all of the North American stores seem to say the 24th.

@Laurence: Can you at least let us know if you're in North America or not?

I can see the store getting BtS confused with Civ IV:Gold, however having BtS and Civ IV Gold out on the shelves on the same day would make perfect business sense. You would tempt a lot of people who don't have Civ IV into walking out of the store with both.

While having BtS a week early would be nice I'm not holding my breath.
 
I've pre ordered from Amazon . They say 19th or 20th.
 
I've seen a BTS torrent too, but even if it was a working copy and not a fake, the uploader's comment said there's no crack yet, so at least it'll be useless to most people for now (not that it should take the usual suspects long to whip up a crack if it is a proper copy). But of course you never know if the advance copy it's based on was actually the latest version, one might just download a bottle full of bugs there.

*crosses fingers that the retail release won't be such a bottle*
Krhm, actually, one can get uncracked work without cracks with certain software, i used that certain software to get my legit copy of civ4 work because it was complaining about my certain software
 
20th July also in Italy.I think that for Europe the right date is 20 not 27, 20 july release date allow shops to ship the game on 23 which is monday and is the USA release date, 20 july infact is friday so it's unlikely that BtS will be shipped to our home that day.Hopefully we will get our hands on that game between 23-24 July otherwise we have to wait until end July/first days of August.
 
Krhm, actually, one can get uncracked work without cracks with certain software, i used that certain software to get my legit copy of civ4 work because it was complaining about my certain software

Of course, but I think not that many people know how to do it, out of the high number of people who would download an illegal copy.
 
:D

I was so peed off as I thought I had to wait til the 30th, but they've moved it forward! WAHEY!

Sorry, I might be getting a little overreacted, but oh well. :)
 
So, does this mean whatever mod from you is suspect? I mean, you are threatening a certain kind of people now... ;)

Actually I'd be more liable to trust dales mods since he got so pissed on this. I've been playing civ since it came out, each version gets patches and several expansions, and the next version is usually out before I'm done enjoying the last one.

Unlike, say music, where the performer does one piece of work and then reaps royalties forever on nothing at all, Sid supports the game after I get it, and improves on it, plus he usually gives modders the ability to alter the games with freely distributed mods, and even brings the better modders into the official team.

Also unlike music where someone who improves a song and sings it in public is liable to be sued, and has really no chance of joining the band.

The contrasts can go on forever. I generally see copyright laws as theft from the public, and point to great works such as the odessy and illiad which were altered through eons before reaching their present form, and the silliness of not allowing people to write of their life experiences because they include say . . . watching a cartoon who's name is copyrighted.

But stealing BTS before it's even released? If nobody every paid a dime to firaxis for this game why would they give us that third expansion I want? Why would they give us that next patch? That next tool to help mod?

Firaxis does something beyond just singing one song on stage, and they have a job supporting the product after it's out. Unlike micheal jackson stealing royalties on all those beatles songs he never sang. lol

This is where the "moral grey area" becomes much less grey. I can honestly say that bit-torrenting this work isn't just stealing from firaxis, it's stealing from yourself and the rest of us. That kind of person . . . is the guy who isn't thinking about morality (which can come into play with other kinds of copyright) or legality, or even value (what is the value of something in infinite supply?) but of sheer stupidity.

Firaxis is still working supporting the game, there is no infinite supply of support, games never make money from a paid concert, and no studio is taking all of sids money (I hope). The only reason to nab this is greed and stupidity. If you get zapped on that . . . I'm less than sympathetic.
 
Actually I'd be more liable to trust dales mods since he got so pissed on this. I've been playing civ since it came out, each version gets patches and several expansions, and the next version is usually out before I'm done enjoying the last one.

Any specific reason you picked me to vent? I thought there was a clear ";)" behind my post, which should indicate something like "hey, I'm joking".
 
Sorry about that geo, nothing personal to you, your post just summed up the whole grrrrrr . . . so it got hit. I don't think I even noticed the smiley. lol.

These torrent folks really rub me the wrong way.
 
Isolated VMWare machine routed exclusively as a DMZ. Then supernode myself and re-publish any BtS torrents I see, after adding my bits. If you're careful, it'll re-publish exactly the same so when someone else uploads that little bit of the whole torrent from you, it screws them. ;)

Sneaky, but I hate seeing my 12 months of work on the game end up like this, even before release.

thats pretty cool that you're going to spread computer virii on the internet. very professional. good luck on ever getting firaxis or someone else to waste their time on you.
 
Wow - this thread went way off-topic with BitTorrent.

Anyway - I'm in Australia. And the games store (big chain - can be found in the US aswell) has confirmed that BEYOND THE SWORD (not Gold Edition) can be picked up on the 18th.

Maybe thats when they get stock, and they got it wrong - I dont know - but Wednesday the 18th in Australia I will advise (which is Tuesday night for you guys because of Timezones differences) if I got it or not.

Cheers.
 
Chode, if you want to vent-vent at the morons who decided it would be a blast to post an illegal copy of the game on Bittorrent & not at the guy who-aside from being a fellow Australian-has created THE BEST WWII mod for Civilization ever created!!!!

Aussie_Lurker.
 
Wow - this thread went way off-topic with BitTorrent.

Anyway - I'm in Australia. And the games store (big chain - can be found in the US aswell) has confirmed that BEYOND THE SWORD (not Gold Edition) can be picked up on the 18th.

Maybe thats when they get stock, and they got it wrong - I dont know - but Wednesday the 18th in Australia I will advise (which is Tuesday night for you guys because of Timezones differences) if I got it or not.

Cheers.
Very interesting....which shop?
 
BTS is released the same day in Canada as the USA right?
Amazon.ca lists it as July 24th, while Amazon.com July 23rd. In any case I'm gonna go to the local EBGames on Monday and find out when they get it, 'cause I'm not waiting for it to be delivered. :)
 
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