elder scrolls mod development thread

[vktj]

OK, this would be a little tricky to adapt PrtfectWorld/Totestra to generate.

The map generator has no concept of volcanoes (although this has been done--another tectonic generator I have played with has heat vents which become volcanic islands on the map), so one possible workaround would be to take the highest peak, call that a volcano, and make those ashlands. Or just say all high-altitude places are volcanic and make ashlands exists in higher altitudes.

I would only do it after seeing what I can do about a random map generator tailored for Legends of Ancient Arabia.

- Sam

 

[ead]

additional idea for orcs:

To reflect the general strategy of winning by masses (of simple units), they should be able to always deliver some damage. Even then, and especially then, when the odds are that bad, that normally, they would loose without doing damage whatsoever. Together with a lowered unit-maintenance they could go for e.g. a 10:1. Of couse, in the early stages, chariots with double-flanking-promotions provides this already, but it is not that flavorful like throwing in a bunch of meele units, marching steady 1 tile per turn to the enemy.

The possibility of deliviring assured damage (e.g. 5 - 10% or a fixed health number) could be done through a special promotion (granted for free or have to be chosen like a normal promotion), for a special unit type only, or as an hidden build-in-mechanic. Also, it could be something like 0-10% assured damage. Thus, it they would have 5% assured damage in average.

To compensate - and for the flavor of simple units - there could be some nerf in research (however, with masses of units they will be nerfed by maintenance anyway).
Some ideas here are:
- reduce commerce by 1
- reduce commerce by 1 if there is only 1
- increase research cost for "non-orcish" techs
- nerf research-buildings for orcs (e.g.: library with less +% and/or viewer specialists)


another helpful feature would be the possibility of setting relais points for newly built units, so the cities behind can generate a stream of new units to be delivered to the front. That way, enemy lands can be cluttered with orcs quite visibly, too.


EDIT: to make "streaming in of troops" also in respect of combat somehow useful, there must be an alternative for the all-in-one-turn-attack on cities or units on the path. Therefore, i would suggest the following: if a lost attack can deliver damage, the damaged units gets a "wither" promotion. That would be a negative promotion in fact, reducing the strength permanently by % (or an absolute number). These wither promotions then can be accumulated (or changed from lower to the highest). For example there are 9 promotions ranging from -10% to -90%.
For the calculations: If an attack would drops the helath of the defending unit to x% (with x > 0), instead, a respective wither promotion (rounded up or down) is applied. A softer version could apply only e.g. half of the damage as a wither promotion: when a lost attack would drop to 80%, instead, defending unit gets a -10% wither promotion applied.

Further, removing wither promotions (if possible at all) could be possible in exchange for one or more of the following
- loosing fortification bonus
- inactivity (not being able to defend)
- a temporal defense malus
The removal could be done on the basis of the wither level. So, for example, there would be 1 turn of inactivity/no fortification bonus/... per 10% wither level removed. Removing a wither promotion could also be restricted to one level per turn. However, this could be somewhat tedious to play with.


great mod btw!

 

[smortt]

take the highest peak, call that a volcano, and make those ashlands.

- Sam

That'll be great! Just some tiles around some one mountain, I guess.

There are a couple of other things, though. I want some civs to start in their respective environments (dunmer - near ashlands; bosmer - in forests, argonians - in jungles) - is it possible?

additional idea for orcs:

great mod btw!

I think it's overly complicated; they already have units production bonuses, so I hope they'll be able to overwhelm with huge cheap forces. Reducing maintenance needs some coding though .

 

[Martimus]

I have been reading through this thread for a while now, overall, the whole mod looks great...but, there are some issues.
FIRST OF ALL, (Note: I am a HUGE fan of Argonians, second favorite to Nords.) Argonians do not live in jungles! They live in swamps. If you could add that terrain type that would be great. Secondly, since I am a huge Skyrim fan, what about the Forsworn. I know they might not be the greatest of civilizations in Tamriel, (not to mention their not exactly civilized) but I think they are worth putting in.
Another thing, I think "The Hist" should be the religion for the argonian ppl, because it is a religion. If you ever got an Argonian mercenary in Skyrim (example: Derkeethus) they always say "May the Hist guide us." I think that is a pretty major factor.
One last question, will their be an event that will cause the Red Mountain in the province of Morrowind to explode? Because that was a major event that allowed the Argonians to break away from the Empire and take over both Blackmarsh and Morrowind in the first place.
Another thing, (I'm done w/ Argonians) it says that the mountain kingdom of Orsinium has been sacked and rebuilt many times throughout history in Skyrim, I was wondering if there is anyway to make barbarians attack Orsinium randomly throughout the game? I think this might be possible w/ python, but I am not sure.
Another thing, I find Orc Hunters a lot throughout Skyrim when I play, perhaps you could make Orc Hunters an unique unit for Orcs? I suggest lowering their strength by one, but give them a really good bonus vs. animal units. Also, a production reduction (hehheh, that was kind of funny...sorry) would be realistic.
Last but not least, could you make a city ruins like improvement labled "Dwemer Ruins". It would act alot like goody huts except they would spawn Falmer every, say, two turns, or something like that. Also, there would be four different Falmer units, Falmer Archers, Falmer Swordsmen, Falmer Axemen, and Falmer Mages. They would spawn randomly from Dwemer Ruins a lot like how random units would spawn from Mongolian Camps in the Genghis Khan mod in Warlords. I think that would be pretty sweet too. In the way they would act like goody huts is that if a unit from a civilization captures a ruin, either of these three things would happen:
-The unit would get a boat load of experience. (Dwemer archives reveal combat techniques, clearing out the Falmer/Chauras in the ruins)
-The civ would get access to one-two techs. (Dwemer knowledge/archives)
-The civ would get a lot of gold. (Dwemer artifacts, etc.)
I know that I have been typing a lot of stuff on this mod but I keep finding things that I reccomend changes on, etc.
The flags are ok, but, I suggest some different flags for some of the civilizations, like the Argonian flag kind of matches up, but maybe the flag used for a Khanate in the Ghengis Khan mod in Warlords would look better. In that mod, the flag is green, but I do not remember the exact civ it belonged to. The one for Valenwood doesn't really make any sense to me, I mean, there aren't any buffalows in Valenwood as far as I know. If there are, please correct me, but, maybe the flag for the Parthians in the GreekWorld mod in the Vanilla Civ would work better.
Another major problem is that DAWNSTAR IS NOT THE CAPITAL OF SKYRIM!!! I really suggest changing to either Windhelm or Solitude because that choice of Capital is really pushing my buttons. I know this might seem a bit extreme, but, its just a fact that there really isn't anything in Dawnstar.
One last thing, (I know this is a lot, but hang in there) the High Elves do not look like high elves. They look like asians. (Sorry, I am not racist, but its true.) I am not sure if this subject has come up in earlier pages of this thread, but, if I was walking through Skyrim and some High Elves from the Aldemeri Dominion came and attacked me, I wouldn't start laughing while saying loudly, "You look like asians!". (Again, no offence intended). But, I would be either running (If I was a noob) or I would fight back boldly. I honestly do not have any ideas for High Elves, but, maybe they could look like the Wood Elves you have (Which are fantastic looking and right on!) and change their clothes/height/hair/face/anything you think needs changing.
I know this seems like a lot, but, if you need any help w/ XML work, I would be happy to lend a hand. (Note: I use 7-zip and I am not sure if this would affect anything when unpacking/repacking XML files and such...)
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Now, what you have been doing right!
The unit graphics for the Orcs/Nords/Wood Elves are really amazing. I like the Argonian graphics as well. The civics are really creative and fit the world of Tamriel well. The map for the scenario looks fantastic. Finally, everything else I didn't mention is really good!
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Now, some quick questions:
1. Will there be Werewolves and Vampires in this mod? It would be pretty interesting if I was invading Skyrim as the Argonians and ran into one or a whole pack of Werewolves. Also, Vampires might be a little lame, but, the concept itself is pretty cool.
2. Will there be Bandits in this mod?
3. If there will be Bandits, will they be racially diverse? (Example: Not all of the Bandits are Nords.)
4. Will forts be a major part of this mod? (Example: Forts can be named, produce culture, etc.)
5. Is there any chance that any of my ideas/reccomendations will make it into another patch/version?
6. Do you need any assistance with some XML work?
7. Are you planning on adding civs/other things to later patches? If so, do you need help w/ the XML work for that?
Besides that, this mod looks amazing! keep up the work and, good luck!

 

[smortt]

I have been reading through this thread for a while now, overall, the whole mod looks great...but, there are some issues.

thanks for the input!

Argonians do not live in jungles! They live in swamps. If you could add that terrain type that would be great.

I see it as a combination jungles\ jungle marshes like around the amazon river, it's considered jungle, jungles contain a lot of swampy terrains:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/tropical-2.php
I would assume black marsh would contain a bit of these 7 types of jungle (just a bit more hostile )

Secondly, since I am a huge Skyrim fan, what about the Forsworn. I know they might not be the greatest of civilizations in Tamriel, (not to mention their not exactly civilized) but I think they are worth putting in.

Well, there're still bretons
If someday I'll (or someone else) make some sort of specific scenario, they may be worth it, but in this kind of general game starting in ME I don't think they belong.

Another thing, I think "The Hist" should be the religion for the argonian ppl, because it is a religion. If you ever got an Argonian mercenary in Skyrim (example: Derkeethus) they always say "May the Hist guide us." I think that is a pretty major factor.

A specific religion would kill it's purpose given the game's mechanics. They were created\ formed by the hist; it wouldn't make sense for them to try to convert others to their religion, or to convert themselves to an other religion. So their uniqueness and dependancy on the hist is better represented by unique bonuses\ buildings, while they can still worship aedra\ daedra\ whatever.

One last question, will their be an event that will cause the Red Mountain in the province of Morrowind to explode? Because that was a major event that allowed the Argonians to break away from the Empire and take over both Blackmarsh and Morrowind in the first place.

There were many crazy hugely cataclyzmic events in tamriel's history (thrassian plaque, umbriel)... it's really dififcult to implement any of those.
However, maybe in the future (still, I don't really know how to code things like these)

Another thing, (I'm done w/ Argonians) it says that the mountain kingdom of Orsinium has been sacked and rebuilt many times throughout history in Skyrim, I was wondering if there is anyway to make barbarians attack Orsinium randomly throughout the game? I think this might be possible w/ python, but I am not sure.

I think the Orcs are in a disadvantage as it is

Another thing, I find Orc Hunters a lot throughout Skyrim when I play, perhaps you could make Orc Hunters an unique unit for Orcs? I suggest lowering their strength by one, but give them a really good bonus vs. animal units. Also, a production reduction (hehheh, that was kind of funny...sorry) would be realistic.

I don't know, maybe replacing scout? explorer?

Last but not least, could you make a city ruins like improvement labled "Dwemer Ruins". It would act alot like goody huts except they would spawn Falmer every, say, two turns, or something like that. Also, there would be four different Falmer units, Falmer Archers, Falmer Swordsmen, Falmer Axemen, and Falmer Mages. They would spawn randomly from Dwemer Ruins a lot like how random units would spawn from Mongolian Camps in the Genghis Khan mod in Warlords. I think that would be pretty sweet too. In the way they would act like goody huts is that if a unit from a civilization captures a ruin, either of these three things would happen:
-The unit would get a boat load of experience. (Dwemer archives reveal combat techniques, clearing out the Falmer/Chauras in the ruins)
-The civ would get access to one-two techs. (Dwemer knowledge/archives)
-The civ would get a lot of gold. (Dwemer artifacts, etc.)

That's actually a nice idea. However I need to think how to logically make sense of it: the game starts in merethic era, when dwemer and falmer are still supposed to exist... Here they don't, plus civs can research "some kind of technologies assotiated with dwemer, including numidium", as if dwemer never existed, and instead other races developed their ideas and technologies... so dwemer ruins cannot be... But oh well, maybe

The flags are ok, but, I suggest some different flags for some of the civilizations, like the Argonian flag kind of matches up, but maybe the flag used for a Khanate in the Ghengis Khan mod in Warlords would look better. In that mod, the flag is green, but I do not remember the exact civ it belonged to. The one for Valenwood doesn't really make any sense to me, I mean, there aren't any buffalows in Valenwood as far as I know. If there are, please correct me, but, maybe the flag for the Parthians in the GreekWorld mod in the Vanilla Civ would work better.

I messed up somehting? It's supposed to be a tree (for valenwood) :O

Another major problem is that DAWNSTAR IS NOT THE CAPITAL OF SKYRIM!!! I really suggest changing to either Windhelm or Solitude because that choice of Capital is really pushing my buttons. I know this might seem a bit extreme, but, its just a fact that there really isn't anything in Dawnstar.

Cities are all messed up, I'm fixing them these days. I mean already fixed them for the next version, just looking and inventing more city names for the 4 southern races.

One last thing, (I know this is a lot, but hang in there) the High Elves do not look like high elves. They look like asians. (Sorry, I am not racist, but its true.) I am not sure if this subject has come up in earlier pages of this thread, but, if I was walking through Skyrim and some High Elves from the Aldemeri Dominion came and attacked me, I wouldn't start laughing while saying loudly, "You look like asians!". (Again, no offence intended). But, I would be either running (If I was a noob) or I would fight back boldly. I honestly do not have any ideas for High Elves, but, maybe they could look like the Wood Elves you have (Which are fantastic looking and right on!) and change their clothes/height/hair/face/anything you think needs changing.

I know, but I'm not a graphics man, so the most I can do is reskinning existing units and making some minor changes. I couldn't find anything fit in vanilla\ database\ FFH2\ cavemen2cosmos. I think I used asians only for a couple of units though. Well, still, first and foremost in graphics are the khajiits.

I know this seems like a lot, but, if you need any help w/ XML work, I would be happy to lend a hand. (Note: I use 7-zip and I am not sure if this would affect anything when unpacking/repacking XML files and such...)

thanks! Most of the problems however are python and graphics. XML I can do myself, and is mostly done anyway.

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Now, what you have been doing right!
The unit graphics for the Orcs/Nords/Wood Elves are really amazing. I like the Argonian graphics as well. The civics are really creative and fit the world of Tamriel well. The map for the scenario looks fantastic. Finally, everything else I didn't mention is really good!

Thanks! that good to hear. It took me a lot of time to find and choose them, and reskin some. Some of the dunmer I'm not happy though (I tried reskinning some units, and some look bad)... and some of the mages (not a lot of mages for download, mostly from FFH2)

Now, some quick questions:
1. Will there be Werewolves and Vampires in this mod? It would be pretty interesting if I was invading Skyrim as the Argonians and ran into one or a whole pack of Werewolves. Also, Vampires might be a little lame, but, the concept itself is pretty cool.
2. Will there be Bandits in this mod?
3. If there will be Bandits, will they be racially diverse? (Example: Not all of the Bandits are Nords.)
4. Will forts be a major part of this mod? (Example: Forts can be named, produce culture, etc.)
5. Is there any chance that any of my ideas/reccomendations will make it into another patch/version?
6. Do you need any assistance with some XML work?
7. Are you planning on adding civs/other things to later patches? If so, do you need help w/ the XML work for that?
Besides that, this mod looks amazing! keep up the work and, good luck!

1 - 3. I need yet to edit animals and barbarians, replace some... maybe
4. Forts unchanged
5. Maybe, I plan on expanding it, however it'll take time, and first some other major issues are needed to take care of (leaderheads, khajiit graphics, various things (I have a list somewhere)). And there are real life issues... next few months are busy.
6.Probably not XML... mostly graphics and coding (both of which I can't do much)
7. Maybe. But, then again, it'll need to wait.

 

[vktj]

Hey, I think it's great all of this work is being done with this mod! Just so people know, since this was brought up earlier in the thread, modifying Perfect World to have different types of starts for different players is non-trivial. It would, alas, require pretty much rewriting all of the "find starts for the player" code.

- Sam

 

[smortt]

Perhaps without perfect world...
Perhaps some python code run at game start to change some civs locations...
Maybe I'll try myself when I have time (don't have any right now)

 

[Gman8744]

I'm playing right now as the Argonians and for some reason I'm getting +1632756% great person birth rate. Is it supposed to be like this? I feel guilty getting extremely overpowered with 1 great merchant every turn

 

[smortt]

darn... another mistake lol
thanks for the bug report though

uhm... if you want to fix, go to mods\tamriel\assets\xml\civilizations\civ4Traitinfos.xml and change
<iGreatPeopleRateModifier>0</iGreatPeopleRateModifier>
in too places: line 18 under TRAIT_ARGONIAN and line 562 under TRAIT_RESOURCEFUL
(the zero at the middle is misssing... need to add it)

sorry...
O jee I fixed this same thing earlier for orcs, but missed 2 other instances :O:O )

- more bugs notices are appreciated

 

[Gman8744]

Much better, thank you. I also noticed that the tech needed for clearing jungles isn't on the tech tree (maybe I'm just missing it lol). I went onto world builder and it's there though. Anyways, this is the best mod I have ever played! Put 2 of my favourite games together

 

[smortt]

thx!

It should be on the tree, but should be inaccessible for argonians (they can't cut their jungles!)
It's down (my tree is wide, it's scrollable down too if you didn't notice)

 

[MelitonKantaria]

I don't know why, but when I take Orc ciz, I can't do settler!!!

Do you know why?

Thank

 

[smortt]

I don't know why, but when I take Orc ciz, I can't do settler!!!

Do you know why?

Thank

Thanks for playing!!
Yeah Orcs can only conquer... I intend to write describtions for civilizations, because some of them have very different game style from vanilla.
It may be too harsh for orcs, though I need paeople to play this and provide some feedback

BTW, about that Orcish leader, you'll probably have it by the end of July if that's okay. I'm currently not anywhere near my old computer where blender still works, so can't really do anything ATM.

That's fine I have a lot of exams this month so I'm not really here meanwhile

 

[MelitonKantaria]

Hi,

First Thing I want to write: Sorry if you have some difficulty to understand me, English is not my first language.

I try your Elder Scroll Mod 3 times. One time with orcs, one with Dumners and one with Argorians. I like it, but I think it could be better. But, I appreciate to found a guy who like elders scrolls for does a mod on civ4. Thank a lot. Now, if I could, I will like do some commentary. I separate my commentary in many sections.

A) Technology
1- I have no many commentaries about Technology. Jungle life : I don’t understand. It is probably a bug, but I don’t see Jungle life anywhere on tree technology. I don’t see Jungle tribe and jungle town, except on civilopédia. It does not work. It is a bug? Am I alone?
2- Green Pact has negative agriculture. It is normal?

B) Unit
1- In my playing time, I see a major bug with Orc nation: I can’t do settler. I correct that bug manually.
2- I don’t know how explain my idea in English, but like civ5 (I don’t really like civ5), why do you not create a long range fire for mage, marksman and catapult?
3- Khajiit don’t have really beautiful units. The others ones have beautiful unit, but no Khajiit. Why?
4- It is possible to create barbarian unit for each region on the map? It is a little weird to beat a black guy barbarian with my argorian soldier when I never meat one redguard soldier again. Some idea for barbarian.
Nordic Region: Draugr, bears and rats
Imperial Region: Bandits, wolves and rats
Dark elf : Some flying creature do I don’t remember the name.
(I will come back on single civ special unit)

C) Building
1-You add Alchemist shop and enchanting Altar. I suggest you a weapon and armor shop. Add a technology who come with a weapon and armor shop. This shop could be added a weapon bonus or a productivity rate or cash bonus. Something like that.
2-Numidium: This is a great idea, but can you change the picture? A special ship, it is not really fantastic medieval.
3- In the same way, can you add a building like Apostolique Palace or ONU. It could be great if you add a diplomatic victory.

D) Jungle
1- Why argorian have jungle disease. This is a non sense. I will be come back on this point.

E) Fitting out
1- I never be able to create a jungle tribe. Am I alone?

F) Specialists
1- Some specialists look like a modern people. It is possible to correct that?

G) Civilization
1- About single special unit. I am sure if some people read my text, a debate can be start with what I will say right now. If we talk about Elder Scrool stereotype, RedGuard and Orc are the best warriors. If you not sure, check up your Morrowing and Oblivion play game guide. About redguard : ‘’The most naturally talented warriors in Tamriel’’ and about orc : ‘’the finest front-line troops in the Empire’’. Where Am I going with that? The best Redguard and orc warrior have a too big difference between them.

H) Heroes
1- Please, put a real character, real heroes on diplomatic screen. It is not immersive to see an aztheque remplace an argorian. I don’t care about animation; I will like real orc, argorian, khajiit on my diplomatic screen. Please &#61514;

I) Commercial society
1- Do you create commercial society for the mod? Because I did not see it.

J) About the rest
1- I know some people don’t be agreed with me, but I think the map is too huge for only 10 nations. Maybe a big map, but not a huge one.
2- I suggest you to create another scenario where the city of each race are already there.
3- Please, change color of the nation. By example, I don’t see the color of my city territories with argonian because the color is too pale on jungle. Redguard and Imperial have a similar red color. Exist so many other colors. No?

I will post again !

 

[MelitonKantaria]

Cause the Orcs can only conquer cities... I personally think it's a bit too much though, I'd rather say double (or triple) cost for settler in that case.

BTW, about that Orcish leader, you'll probably have it by the end of July if that's okay. I'm currently not anywhere near my old computer where blender still works, so can't really do anything ATM.

Ok. I change it. I'm playing a game right now with orc and I can do settler now. But, I understand why Orcs can only conquer cities. In the Elder Scrolls, orcs have a only real city.

 

[MelitonKantaria]

Good job and I hope you will do a new version soon!

By the way, the last version it is Elder scrolls mod - alpha version 0.16 (42.92 MB)?

 

[MelitonKantaria]

Do you actually know how much work that corresponds? I have an Orc in the works ATM (which won't be too hard as they kind-of resemble the Humans) but creating a cat or a lizard lh... that requires hours and hours of work.

Same goes for Barbarians special to regions. Barbarians in civ4 appear in pre-defined terrain for the animals, and random for other barbs, but making this territory based will be a challange.

The reason Khajits don't have kjahit-looking units is because there are no cat looking units on the forums as we know about.

Also, about flag-graphics. No, the two red colours are not looking too alike (same goes for Nordic Blue and Breton Blue). It may seem so when they are apart, but when you put them together you'll see that one of them is quite much darker than the other. And borders are usually not seen well in Jungle at all... solution, cut it. That's how you end up seeing them in normal civgames anyway. If there is one colour that actually could be edited, it's the Orcish one, but that's still the colour used by Khmer in RFC (as Imperial is the Russian colour in RFC and Nords the American, all different enough to see that they are not the same as the other colours), and Rhye does a good job at colour, that I can guarantee.

I’m sorry if I am not respectful and polite when I write. It is a little big difficult to explain my suggestion in English. I am not really learning this language at school, more in English movies and with some people. I am sure it is not the good place to learn the English polite rules. No?

At your first question, my answers is no. I don’t know how much work that corresponds and I want to repeat that you doing a huge great job with this mod. It is long to put a fix picture of a leader? You search on web and you pick up one. It is long too?

Ok for barbarian. But, it is possible to change the looking unit?

Ok for Khajiit. I hope you found something.

About colors. I am not sure. Yes, one red is darker, but when you put them together, I am still having difficulties and I must check the town to know who are who. Blue too. Maybe it is just me. About Argorian color, maybe if he have a darker color could be better for the jungle, no? But I totally understand your point of view.

And....If you want, I can do some feedback about some points of the mod. Am I clear?
I hope I write correct.

 

[ObsidianWolf]

Downloaded the mod and I loved it. I had a lot of fun playing Talos of Atmora and conquering Tamriel with my unstoppable legions of troops

There are a few things that do require attention. Of course, the Bosmer and Argonians need a fix - that 1,000,000+ GP percentage boost is insane (yes, I know the user can fix it, but it's still the most glaring issue). The Khajiit could use some custom skins like the Argonians have, making them actual catfolk instead of Aztecs and elves, but that could be put on a back burner. I also encountered a bug where building a Warmage made me unable to enter the cityscreen of the city that made it, the graphic never showed up on the map, and for all intents and purposes the unit didn't exist; every time I tried to select it the game would group it with another unit and have said unit move instead. Finally, how does one gain access to/construct the Jungle Tribe improvement?

Minor nitpicks include a want for customized leaderheads/portraits, more leaders (Ulfric Stormcloak, Uriel Septim, Almalexia, etc.), changing certain city properties (Dawnstar has, far as I know, never been even a major city in Skyrim - changing the capital to Solitude or Winterhold would work better; also, Torval is in southwestern Elsweyr, near Valenwood, not near the Cyrodilic border), and customization of barbarian city names - it was odd seeing Illinois and Angle alongside Falkreath and Orcrest. Perhaps name them after locations where anklebiters run the show - bandit camps, Forsworn redoubts, etc. On that note, maybe make barbarians have units like goblins and Forsworn? Lastly, if this mod is meant to encompass the entirety of Tamrielic history, perhaps introduce the Dwemer and Falmer (preferably pre-enslavement) as civilizations?

Again, this is an excellent mod and has great potential. Thank you for bringing this to life.

 

[smortt]

thanks for comments.
And thank you veBear

I'm uploading a newer version (same link) with fixes to the bosmer and argonian GP, and tamrielian barbarian city names.
Khajiit graphics will have to wait. City placement is random, as in vanilla game. Jungle tribes are only for argonians.

I've disappeared, but I'll be back as soon as I'm done with some glaring real life issues.

 

[ObsidianWolf]

Thanks for the update smortt, but having tried to play the Argonians, I've found two other issues related to the Jungle Tribe - first, looking at the capabilities of the Argonian Workers, it would seem that they are unable to construct Jungle Tribes (they aren't listed on their Improvement list, like the Tree Community and Forests Camp are for the Bosmer Workers), and the Jungle Life tech allows for construction of the Jungle Town instead of Tribe. I don't know if this would cause an issue for Civ in letting workers build the Jungle Tribe, but just something I've noticed. [EDIT:] Well, bugger, I've hit another problem, with improvements again - the Ashlander Camp. I just started colonizing Vvardenfell with the Dark Elves, and I'm unable to create Ashlander Camps despite having the Great Houses tech, being on Ashland terrain, and being on a Guar resource.

Best of luck in resolving those real life issues!