Elimination Thread-Returning Civ 5 Leaders

[God of Kings]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8
Kamehameha 23
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 23
Nebuchadnezzar II 20
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 25 + 1 = 26 He is among the greatest Korean rulers
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
Theodora 6
Washington 1 - 3 = ELIMINATED I would prefer an American president who never appeared before, such as Thomas Jefferson
William 21
Wu Zetian 20

 

[conorbebe]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8
Kamehameha 24 (23 + 1) Because I love Polynesian culture and Kamehameha is by far the most well-known historical figure from this region.
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 20 (23 - 3) Same reason as before.
Nebuchadnezzar II 20
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
Theodora 6
William 21
Wu Zetian 20

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8
Kamehameha 24+1=25 I wouldn't mind seeing a Hawaiian civ, Kamehameha would be a great leader and I hope they bring back the cool looking architecture of the building in the cities of the Polynesian civ from civ v back.
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 20
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
Theodora 6-3=3 Time for someone new for the Byzantine empire.
William 21
Wu Zetian 20

 

[God of Kings]

Kamehameha 24+1=25 I wouldn't mind seeing a Hawaiian civ, Kamehameha would be a great leader and I hope they bring back the cool looking architecture of the building in the cities of the Polynesian civ from civ v back.

Polynesian buildings in Civ V are just re-coloured Asian buildings.

 

[RFormica]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 16
Napoleon 20
Nebuchadnezzar II 20 + 1 = 21 Sumeria alone doesn't represent Mesopotamia fully.
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
Theodora 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED I would rather see Constantine, or really anybody else.
William 21
Wu Zetian 20

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 16-3=13 - I'm sorry my queen, but your addition would mean that Habsburg Monarchy called Austria would make a return, making Bohemia as a separate Civ either completely impossible, or at least very unlikely.
Napoleon 20+1=21 - I'm not against Louis XIV as a leader of France, but we already have wonder building and tourism bonus for France. He probably wouldn't bring anything new, and that's why I'd rather like to see the brilliant strategist Napoleon again. France with military bonuses would be nice.
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 20

 

[Morningcalm]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 8 - 3 = 5 (Definitely one of the most intolerant leaders on this list.)
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 20
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 20 + 1 = 21 (A capable, if vicious woman, one of China's only empress regnants, who elevated women, religion, and was militarily successful.)

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella (5-3)=2 Firaxis seems to have a love for this woman, but Philip II basically has her Agenda, so her return is not a priority. Plus Jewish/Muslim expulsion, and funding the slavedriver named Columbus.
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti (20+1)=21 Few capable Inca rulers, so Pachacuti deserves to stay longer
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 21

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22+1=23 - The greatest doge of Serenissima won't suffer being so much behind the current leader of the table.
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 8
Harun al-Rashid 18
Isabella 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Spanish history is quite rich, there is no need to use her another time (although some exploration bonus for her would be nice).
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 21

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 23
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie (8-3)=5 Rastafari messiah should let other Ethiopian kings have their shot at representing their nation in the game.
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 23
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian (21+1)=22 If more female leaders are needed by Firaxis, Wu Zetian is a good choice for an alternate Chinese leader.

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20 (23-3) He is not competitive
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 5
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 25
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24 (23+1) just one week we had to wait
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 22

 

[conorbebe]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 17 (20 - 3) I'd be more interested to see Firaxis' take on a never-before-seen leader for England.
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 5
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26 (25 +1) Aloha Hawaii~
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 17
Enrico Dandolo 20+1=21 - The greatest doge of Serenissima deserves to return.
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 5-3=2 - I'd rather have Menelik II. Let's end his suffering.
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 21
Wu Zetian 22

 

[RFormica]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 9
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 17
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Haile Selassie 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED Ethiopia needs pre-colonial leaders.
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 21 + 1 = 22 Would be great to have a Netherlands civ
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 19
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia (9-3)=6 Give me Mansa Musa instead...
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth (17+1)=18 She's a Civ mainstay, but also a great female ruler.
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 27
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 16 (19-3) more points than Elisabeth?
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 6
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 18
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 28 (27+1) best
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 16
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 6-3=3 - Although I love his peace music and his badass leaderscreen from Civ V, he's inevitably the next leader to be eliminated. Let's end his suffering so @Guandao can give him some new emoji in the final rankings
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 18
Enrico Dandolo 21+1=22 - He dropped too low. I must help him ascend again.
Gajah Mada 24
Genghis Khan 28
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22

 

[God of Kings]

Ahmad al-Mansur 16
Ashurbanipal 26
Askia 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Not even his giant sword in front of a burning city can save this man of peace
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 18
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 24 + 1 = 25 Practically a given
Genghis Khan 28
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 21
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 10
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 16
Ashurbanipal 26
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 18
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 25
Genghis Khan 28
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti (21+1)=22 The Earth Shaker gets another one of my votes. Still not convinced Atahualpa would make a good Civ leader...
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng (10-3)=7 If Siam ever returns to Civ6, I want a different King leading it, like Naresuan or Narai. Sukritact already made Ramkhamhaeng into a mod leader, who thankfully doesn't resemble Thaksin Shinawatra .
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 16
Ashurbanipal 26
Augustus Caesar 18
Bismarck 16
Catherine 22
Elizabeth 18
Enrico Dandolo 22+1=23 - Another point for the greatest doge of Serenissima.
Gajah Mada 25
Genghis Khan 28
Gustavus Adolphus 25
Harun al-Rashid 18
Kamehameha 26
Maria Theresa 13
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 21
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 22-3=19 - People are afraid of the return of backstabbing, passive aggressive Ramkhamhaeng. I'm afraid of the worst nightmare from my games of Civ V - this guy with annoying whiny childish voice that keeps stealing my wonders (although not as much as Casimir III), backstabbing me and declaring wars on me.
Ramesses II 22
Ramkhamhaeng 7
Sejong 26
Shaka 24
Suleiman 22
William 22
Wu Zetian 22