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Discussion in 'Eagles' started by Calis, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    From I.Larkin....

    Dear Cyc, thank you for yor kind post. Unfortunatly we can't find any deal that may help us in our struggle.

    What do you think if we can arrange conference with Kuche that probably may soften contractual obligation?

    Anyway, it is very supportive, that you "keep us in mind".

    I. Larkin, Knights of the Brotherhood.


    See. I still think they are running a scam with the Kitchen.
     
  2. Calis

    Calis on time

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    Do you mean together with kitchen, or against kitchen?
     
  3. Calis

    Calis on time

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    That might be a reason, why kitchen tries to force us into breaking the deal. :think:
     
  4. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    They wouldn't be trying to get us to break the deal, so to speak, they would be trying to expedite the delivery of Chivalry. The Kitchen probably realizes that we don't want to give them Chivalry anytime soon, but if they have the BH offer us lots of gold for the tech, and we take the deal, the Kitchen can buy it from the BH (or some other form of negotiation). Maybe cheaper than they could get it from us. And what would we say when they have Riders on our borders? "Hey, you owe us gold?"

    Please stop giving our techs away without discussion. Thanks.
     
  5. Calis

    Calis on time

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    Feudalism was a fixed part of the deal. So I didn't see much reason for a discussion.
     
  6. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    So I supposed the Anarchie paying us gold for the techs we've already given them is not a fixed part of the same deal?

    Say, can I hire you to paint my house? :)
     
  7. Calis

    Calis on time

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    Please tell me what money they owe us and I will push them to pay.
     
  8. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    From the Kitchen Embassy....

    So push them for 250 gold...
     
  9. Calis

    Calis on time

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    I just corrected this in the State of the Empire thread:

     
  10. Calis

    Calis on time

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    A letter sent by Lanzelot of the Knights:

     
  11. Calis

    Calis on time

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    As I can see, they will get Monotheism, Feudalism, Engineering, Theology, Education and Invention from the Great Library (besides all AA techs of course).

    Are we willing to sell any of our other techs to them? Especially towards Military Tradition?
     
  12. Sparthage

    Sparthage Fighting Tyranny

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    I say no. The next tech down that line is gunpowder, and I'd prefer to make them work their own way towards it.

    After all, we have to consider that we have a strong probability of fighting them in the end. If we give them any techs, it should be in exchange for either an alliance or neutrality in a fight against the Kitchen.

    Just my two cents there.
     
  13. Calis

    Calis on time

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    The only positive thing would be to get some extra cash from them. They won't be able to catch up with us techwise anyway, I am sure about.

    But I am also fine if the team says, no techs to our opponents any more. :)
     
  14. CommandoBob

    CommandoBob AbstractArt

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    I don't mind selling them AA techs for cash, if they would be interested. But I think they were asking about current era techs.

    Do we have a best guess on how far away are they from completing The Great Library?
     
  15. Cyc

    Cyc Looking for the door...

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    I believe that Lanzelot will switch the Great Library to Leonardo's Workshop (for half-price upgrades) if we sell him Invention. He knows the GL is obsolete now and wants to improve his situation. Probably not a good idea to give him Leonardo's. He's bluffing.

    Speaking of Wonders, I believe we should switch Tuscan Talon to THE MAUSOLEUM OF MAUSOLLOS. This will start us into a peaceful Golden Age in 4 turns. I believe that would be more valuable to us than the benefits of the Collosus.
     
  16. Calis

    Calis on time

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    They will complete The Great Library very soon, I am sure about. They can't switch to anything, as they did not even leave the AA.
     
  17. Chamnix

    Chamnix Chasing Time

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    I don't like the idea of selling techs, but the problem is that if we don't sell techs to The Brotherhood, then I think there is a near certainty that The Brotherhood and Kuche will form an alliance :hmm:.
     
  18. Calis

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    The Great Library is far away from being obsolete. It becomes obsolete when the civ that actually built it gets Education. Thus, The Brotherhood cannot switch the build. And as I mentioned, they will get Invention by the Library as well, as Kueche researched it recently.
     
  19. Sparthage

    Sparthage Fighting Tyranny

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    I actually agree. Maybe if we sold them the upper-tree techs? You know: the more cultural/economic ones. Militarily, I'd like to keep them behind for as long as possible.
     
  20. Calis

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    Proposed note to Brotherhood:

     

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