Sir Bugsy
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Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Merry Christmas to all my teammates!
All right, here it is:
Preflight: change scientist in Izmit to laborer, put him on hill next to river
1: Edrine curragh->settler (3); dinkies continue exploring; drop sci to 40% and change 2 scientists to taxmen, still get lit next turn; change citizen in Bursa to taxman to prevent riots
2: learn lit, use "big picture" to switch all temples to libraries (this is permitted by the rules we're playing under, right?); Uskudar library->worker (3), Konya library->worker (3); 1 dinky sinks; switch barracks in Suez to library; make scientist in Kafa to prevent riots
Trades: trade lit to Egypt for math, 54 gold, and 3 gpt (couldn't get map making)
trade lit and 69 gold to England for philosophy (best deal we could get)
set research to horseback riding, can get in 4 turns at 50% with -5gpt (after switching taxmen back to scientists)
We have a palace prebuild in progress, but no wonders are available (every AA wonder has been built already, along with Sun Tzu's); switch to library, wasting 18 shields--IMHO the least bad option
3: Istanbul library->worker (1), Izmit library->worker (2); 1 dinky sinks, but another dinky spots light blue borders!
unfortunately, not in contact range yet 
: ; change barracks in Ankara to library
4: Istanbul worker->swordsman (3), Edrine settler->library (5); dinky that found borders sinks!
; warrior in Istanbul moves toward Suez for MP; drop sci to 40, change 3 scientists to taxmen, HBR in 2, +8 gpt; however, England and Egypt have it now and are in the MA!
5: Uskudar worker->cat (5); Izmit worker->curragh (3); Antalya library->worker (5); Konya worker->cat (5)
6: learn HBR, code of laws in 11 at 40 (the cheapest remaining AA tech), -2 gpt; Ankara library->worker (4); last dinky sinks; Mugla founded, library in 20
7: Istanbul sword->cat (2), Iznik library->worker (5)
8: Izmit curragh->curragh (3)
9: Istanbul cat->cat (2), Edrine library->worker (2); Ankara riots, change citizen to scientist
10: Antalya worker->cat (10), Konya cat->cat (5)
Well, I built some libraries, got us some more workers, and located another civ (though I was unable to contact them), so not bad, I guess. We still need more workers, though; I'd say at least 8 more (for a total of 20). After that, we need to acquire some more territory. England and Egypt are both bigger, stronger, and more advanced than we are; we can't let that go on forever.
Here's the save: View attachment Osman_50_AD.SAV
Merry Christmas!
Preflight: change scientist in Izmit to laborer, put him on hill next to river
1: Edrine curragh->settler (3); dinkies continue exploring; drop sci to 40% and change 2 scientists to taxmen, still get lit next turn; change citizen in Bursa to taxman to prevent riots
2: learn lit, use "big picture" to switch all temples to libraries (this is permitted by the rules we're playing under, right?); Uskudar library->worker (3), Konya library->worker (3); 1 dinky sinks; switch barracks in Suez to library; make scientist in Kafa to prevent riots
Trades: trade lit to Egypt for math, 54 gold, and 3 gpt (couldn't get map making)
trade lit and 69 gold to England for philosophy (best deal we could get)
set research to horseback riding, can get in 4 turns at 50% with -5gpt (after switching taxmen back to scientists)
We have a palace prebuild in progress, but no wonders are available (every AA wonder has been built already, along with Sun Tzu's); switch to library, wasting 18 shields--IMHO the least bad option
3: Istanbul library->worker (1), Izmit library->worker (2); 1 dinky sinks, but another dinky spots light blue borders!
unfortunately, not in contact range yet : ; change barracks in Ankara to library4: Istanbul worker->swordsman (3), Edrine settler->library (5); dinky that found borders sinks!
; warrior in Istanbul moves toward Suez for MP; drop sci to 40, change 3 scientists to taxmen, HBR in 2, +8 gpt; however, England and Egypt have it now and are in the MA!5: Uskudar worker->cat (5); Izmit worker->curragh (3); Antalya library->worker (5); Konya worker->cat (5)
6: learn HBR, code of laws in 11 at 40 (the cheapest remaining AA tech), -2 gpt; Ankara library->worker (4); last dinky sinks; Mugla founded, library in 20
7: Istanbul sword->cat (2), Iznik library->worker (5)
8: Izmit curragh->curragh (3)
9: Istanbul cat->cat (2), Edrine library->worker (2); Ankara riots, change citizen to scientist
10: Antalya worker->cat (10), Konya cat->cat (5)
Well, I built some libraries, got us some more workers, and located another civ (though I was unable to contact them), so not bad, I guess. We still need more workers, though; I'd say at least 8 more (for a total of 20). After that, we need to acquire some more territory. England and Egypt are both bigger, stronger, and more advanced than we are; we can't let that go on forever.
Here's the save: View attachment Osman_50_AD.SAV
Merry Christmas!
pre-turn
Change Uskudar, Iznik and Edrine to curagh
IBT
get booted by egypt
70AD
Istanbul spear->sword MM to get 15spt
Edrine curagh->sword, this can also have 10spt!
Ankara worker->rax
Also Bursa can get more shields, get 2 turns of FP.
90AD
send curagh west
110AD
Lose 2 out of 4 curaghs
130AD
just 1 curagh left
IBT
Sumeria completed Copernicus
150AD
Spot large sumerian border, need 1 more turn please.
science: CoL->MapMaking
170AD
Yes, made it across, am on coastline just no units to contact yet.
Chnage curagh builds to cats
Izmit to settler to settle SE of Mugla
190AD
Contact Sumeria, they got 1000 gold and won't let us buy any techs.
210AD
Spot dark blue border
230AD
Izmit settler->settler?
Mugla lib->rax
IBT
Sumeria start Smith's
250AD
Dark blue is Korea and also won't trade
MM is due in 3 turns getting low on cash and gpt.
Our military is strong compared to korea but weak to everybody else.
Maybe we should try another war again, otherwise we'll just fall further behind. And we're already ******** compared to all others.
View attachment Osman_250_AD.SAV
Change Uskudar, Iznik and Edrine to curagh
IBT
get booted by egypt
70AD
Istanbul spear->sword MM to get 15spt
Edrine curagh->sword, this can also have 10spt!
Ankara worker->rax
Also Bursa can get more shields, get 2 turns of FP.
90AD
send curagh west
110AD
Lose 2 out of 4 curaghs
130AD
just 1 curagh left
IBT
Sumeria completed Copernicus
150AD
Spot large sumerian border, need 1 more turn please.
science: CoL->MapMaking
170AD
Yes, made it across, am on coastline just no units to contact yet.
Chnage curagh builds to cats
Izmit to settler to settle SE of Mugla
190AD
Contact Sumeria, they got 1000 gold and won't let us buy any techs.
210AD
Spot dark blue border
230AD
Izmit settler->settler?
Mugla lib->rax
IBT
Sumeria start Smith's
250AD
Dark blue is Korea and also won't trade
MM is due in 3 turns getting low on cash and gpt.
Our military is strong compared to korea but weak to everybody else.
Maybe we should try another war again, otherwise we'll just fall further behind. And we're already ******** compared to all others.
View attachment Osman_250_AD.SAV
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
well done on getting across.
The only way we are going to get close tech-wise is to chase the AI up the tech tree.
Making contact with the other civs will allow us to have cheaper tech costs for researching. If we build concentrate on science and financial buildings we can catch up.
The key is don't panic.
I think we need to get MM next so we can get a galley across.
The only way we are going to get close tech-wise is to chase the AI up the tech tree.
Making contact with the other civs will allow us to have cheaper tech costs for researching. If we build concentrate on science and financial buildings we can catch up.
The key is don't panic.
I think we need to get MM next so we can get a galley across.
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I can't play this weekend. If Bugsy doesn't claim it by Monday I'll play.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
OK, a swap with EM. I have it and I'll play tomorrow.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight – Well our economy is as good as it is going to get right now. We need science and economy buildings. I’m going to put us on 1/3 economy (courts), 1/3 science (libraries) and 1/3 military. With fourteen cities that’s about four each plus the settler and FP.
I try the Charis trick and see if I can mortgage our entire economy for a tech. It will actually take 32gpt and all our cash to get construction.
260 – Nada.
270 Found Denizli.
IBT – Map making=>currency
FP is built.
And things go from bad to worse:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1337/osmanflipvq8.jpg
280 – I move some swords towards the English frontier. Our economy really stinks now. We are running 20% science and 40% lux. Since we can’t squeeze a city in on the Egyptian frontier, I swap out the settler.
290 – Sumeria has muskets while, Korea has spears. Egypt still only has pikes.
310 – I disband a dinky boat on this side. We don’t have the cash to upgrade.
IBT – watch a Korean archer get slaughtered by a Sumerian knight.
320
IBT – The Chinese complete Leo’s Workshop.
330
IBT - The Sumerians start Smith’s :eek:
340
IBT – Cleo demands 20G. yeah, we would have a chance in a war with her. I give it to her. The Chinese complete the Sistine Chapel.
350 - More happens between turns than during the turns.
After Action – Don’t know if this is winnable. When we get currency we need to build markets everywhere for some cash flow. Set up some pre-builds. We have a galley ready to sail across and find the Chinese. MM our economy like crazy get every piece of gold and every beaker you can. I have started wealth in a few cities because we can afford the support costs anymore.
Save: [url]http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32851/Osman_350_AD.SAV[/url]
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Lkysam
Vind2
I try the Charis trick and see if I can mortgage our entire economy for a tech. It will actually take 32gpt and all our cash to get construction.
260 – Nada.
270 Found Denizli.
IBT – Map making=>currency
FP is built.
And things go from bad to worse:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1337/osmanflipvq8.jpg
280 – I move some swords towards the English frontier. Our economy really stinks now. We are running 20% science and 40% lux. Since we can’t squeeze a city in on the Egyptian frontier, I swap out the settler.
290 – Sumeria has muskets while, Korea has spears. Egypt still only has pikes.
310 – I disband a dinky boat on this side. We don’t have the cash to upgrade.
IBT – watch a Korean archer get slaughtered by a Sumerian knight.
320
IBT – The Chinese complete Leo’s Workshop.
330
IBT - The Sumerians start Smith’s :eek:
340
IBT – Cleo demands 20G. yeah, we would have a chance in a war with her. I give it to her. The Chinese complete the Sistine Chapel.
350 - More happens between turns than during the turns.
After Action – Don’t know if this is winnable. When we get currency we need to build markets everywhere for some cash flow. Set up some pre-builds. We have a galley ready to sail across and find the Chinese. MM our economy like crazy get every piece of gold and every beaker you can. I have started wealth in a few cities because we can afford the support costs anymore.
Save: [url]http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32851/Osman_350_AD.SAV[/url]
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Bugsy - Swapped with EM
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Let us know when you guys are ready to play:
Lkysam
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Empiremaker
Human Fish
I got it. We may be able to play the Glib trick and get into the industrial age, depending on where it is.
Empiremaker
Human Fish
0- Switch Taxmen to scientists.
1- zzz
IBT- Korea starts Bachs
2- After Currency is researched, we shouls build up some cash and establish embassies.
Send the galley to scout English lands.
FInd a Russian Galley
Look at the victory screen, and Sumeria is huge (23/26), and has over 15,000 culture.
3- See remains of a Korean city, and Sumerian Knights over it, so Korea lost another city. Korea is down to its last city.
IBT- Bye, bye Korea. At least they wont get nukes.
4- Nothing
5- Start Pre-builds for Markets.
Find Russian borders
6- Nothing
IBT- Russia completes Bachs in Lagos. Strange, Lagos is a Portugese name, Russia must be conquring Portugal.
Shanghai has completed Newtons
7- Nada
IBT- See a Sumerian caravel sailing in the deep ocean.
Currency to The Republic.
Sumeria completes Simths in Sumer.
8- Im putting no money into The Republic, so we can build the cash for embassies.
9- zzz
10- Build and Embassy in London.
Unseen troops are 2 Pikes, 1 Cat, and 1 MDI.
The Save
1- zzz
IBT- Korea starts Bachs
2- After Currency is researched, we shouls build up some cash and establish embassies.
Send the galley to scout English lands.
FInd a Russian Galley
Look at the victory screen, and Sumeria is huge (23/26), and has over 15,000 culture.
3- See remains of a Korean city, and Sumerian Knights over it, so Korea lost another city. Korea is down to its last city.
IBT- Bye, bye Korea. At least they wont get nukes.
4- Nothing
5- Start Pre-builds for Markets.
Find Russian borders
6- Nothing
IBT- Russia completes Bachs in Lagos. Strange, Lagos is a Portugese name, Russia must be conquring Portugal.
Shanghai has completed Newtons
7- Nada
IBT- See a Sumerian caravel sailing in the deep ocean.
Currency to The Republic.
Sumeria completes Simths in Sumer.
8- Im putting no money into The Republic, so we can build the cash for embassies.
9- zzz
10- Build and Embassy in London.
Unseen troops are 2 Pikes, 1 Cat, and 1 MDI.
The Save
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
If the GL is not on our continent, it isn't going to work. We would need to have astronomy to get enough units across to the other continent. In order to get to astronomy, we have to go through education, which disables the GL for us. I'm pretty sure, Sumeria built it, but I hope I am wrong.
You're not wrong; Sumeria did build it, so unless we want to build a massive fleet of loaded suicide galleys, we can't do the GLib trick.
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