Dolemitetornado
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...because we desprately NEED ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT WHICH CIVS TO INCLUDE! hahahhahahahahahahaaahahahaahahajhkdsha!
Anyway, considering that it looks like the number of civs for the vanilla game will be a disapointing (to me) 18, I just thought, well what civs should be included in the expansion pack? So lets go with a hopeful but still reasonable number of 8, and well, maybe try and give reasons for who should be in and not.
So let me present the (DADADADA!) next random post of civs to be included.
1. Assyria/Babylon/Sumeria - Mesopotamia needs top be represented. They seem to be the most missed civ, it doesn't matter so much what incarnation gets in, everyone just seems to want a Mesopotamian civ, perhaps for the simnple reason that these folks more or less invented civilization...
2. The Turks/Ottomans - Ahh, a greast combination of the "horde" civ, as well as a major empire and a modern state. The Turks have invaded about everyone, set up the primary post-Mongol Islamic Caliphate, and Turkey today is still a major power.
3. Ethiopia/Abyssinia- Mali is a better choice than the Zulu, but I think that Sub-Saharan Africa needs at least one more civ. The Ethiopian highlnads have always nurtured a distinct culture, and if they have not been as powerful as sosme of the other civs, they make up for it in the length of their civilization, its cultural distinctiveness (an Island of distinct Christianity in a sea of Muslims and animists) and their contribution in terms of crops, (anybody here drinking coffee as they read this? Thank the Ethiopians), the birth place of the Sementic languages, and the only African nation not to be colonized (that Italian invasion doesn't count, its like saying Hungary was "colonized" by the Germans)
4. Siam/Thais- SOMEBODY has got to represent SE Asia, leaving them out for so long is just stupid. The Thais had an empire as big as the Khamers in their heyday, and unlike Cambodia, Thailand is still a major regional power. Plus the people are so dammned nice, it just seems mean not to include em.
5. Korea-Well they may not have had an empire, but Korea is old, (nearly 2000 years), its maintained its lingustic and political distinctivness despite Japanese and Chinese colonialism, and the population of Korea is actually quite large, only Germany and Russia in Europe have bigger populations. Being a first-world country and large-game market can't hurt either...
6. Hebrews/Israel- Perhaps not the largest empire in history, but the Jews have a ridiculously long history, an impact on world religion that can only be rivaled by the Indians (and there's like 50 times as many Indians as Jews).
Anybody who thinks they're too "contreversial" should also realize that every other civ in the game is guilty of far worse things than the Israelis ever were, and we'd be left playing with the Australian Aboriginies, modern Finland and Cnada etc, etc.
7-8 Celts and Norse. Okay, here I have to admit, I'm just going for fun. There's no real reason to consider the Celts and Vikings "civilizations" in the normal sense of the word, but gawdammit, people like them! And SOMEONE should represent pre-civilized Europe, the hordes of Northern barbarians trashing the Western roman empire is just to fun a historical scenario to pass up, plus I myself am descended from a combination of these savages...
Anyway, considering that it looks like the number of civs for the vanilla game will be a disapointing (to me) 18, I just thought, well what civs should be included in the expansion pack? So lets go with a hopeful but still reasonable number of 8, and well, maybe try and give reasons for who should be in and not.
So let me present the (DADADADA!) next random post of civs to be included.
1. Assyria/Babylon/Sumeria - Mesopotamia needs top be represented. They seem to be the most missed civ, it doesn't matter so much what incarnation gets in, everyone just seems to want a Mesopotamian civ, perhaps for the simnple reason that these folks more or less invented civilization...
2. The Turks/Ottomans - Ahh, a greast combination of the "horde" civ, as well as a major empire and a modern state. The Turks have invaded about everyone, set up the primary post-Mongol Islamic Caliphate, and Turkey today is still a major power.
3. Ethiopia/Abyssinia- Mali is a better choice than the Zulu, but I think that Sub-Saharan Africa needs at least one more civ. The Ethiopian highlnads have always nurtured a distinct culture, and if they have not been as powerful as sosme of the other civs, they make up for it in the length of their civilization, its cultural distinctiveness (an Island of distinct Christianity in a sea of Muslims and animists) and their contribution in terms of crops, (anybody here drinking coffee as they read this? Thank the Ethiopians), the birth place of the Sementic languages, and the only African nation not to be colonized (that Italian invasion doesn't count, its like saying Hungary was "colonized" by the Germans)
4. Siam/Thais- SOMEBODY has got to represent SE Asia, leaving them out for so long is just stupid. The Thais had an empire as big as the Khamers in their heyday, and unlike Cambodia, Thailand is still a major regional power. Plus the people are so dammned nice, it just seems mean not to include em.
5. Korea-Well they may not have had an empire, but Korea is old, (nearly 2000 years), its maintained its lingustic and political distinctivness despite Japanese and Chinese colonialism, and the population of Korea is actually quite large, only Germany and Russia in Europe have bigger populations. Being a first-world country and large-game market can't hurt either...
6. Hebrews/Israel- Perhaps not the largest empire in history, but the Jews have a ridiculously long history, an impact on world religion that can only be rivaled by the Indians (and there's like 50 times as many Indians as Jews).
Anybody who thinks they're too "contreversial" should also realize that every other civ in the game is guilty of far worse things than the Israelis ever were, and we'd be left playing with the Australian Aboriginies, modern Finland and Cnada etc, etc.
7-8 Celts and Norse. Okay, here I have to admit, I'm just going for fun. There's no real reason to consider the Celts and Vikings "civilizations" in the normal sense of the word, but gawdammit, people like them! And SOMEONE should represent pre-civilized Europe, the hordes of Northern barbarians trashing the Western roman empire is just to fun a historical scenario to pass up, plus I myself am descended from a combination of these savages...
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