Fall from Heaven Wiki opened

[Kael]

The vain part of me demands to know why the names of the team members aren't links to personal pages.

Do you have a personal page you would like to share? Aren't you afraid you will get mobbed by hordes of young nubile female ffh groupies?

 

[Sareln]

Do you have a personal page you would like to share? Aren't you afraid you will get mobbed by hordes of young nubile female ffh groupies?

That's great.

On the unit layout side of things, what you've put up for the ranger is good Kael, but I put the base movement next to power. So now you have more of the form from the original CIV IV layout for units (Power, Movement), and eleminate what feels like an unnecessary dot in the special abilities listing.

EDIT 1:

Also, I've been looking at the vanilla CIV IV units pages, and do we want to adopt that little box thingy they have going as well? No need to reinvent the wheel, after all.

 

[Kael]

That's great.

On the unit layout side of things, what you've put up for the ranger is good Kael, but I put the base movement next to power. So now you have more of the form from the original CIV IV layout for units (Power, Movement), and eleminate what feels like an unnecessary dot in the special abilities listing.

EDIT 1:

Also, I've been looking at the vanilla CIV IV units pages, and do we want to adopt that little box thingy they have going as well? No need to reinvent the wheel, after all.

Thats a good idea, we may as well stick with their formating.

 

[YohanLeafheart]

So, are we putting FfH_ before any article name? If we going to use it for some of the articles, I think it is better to change for all of them. I have the format I used for the Balseraphs entry as a template, that I can add to make it easier to format all the other civilizations entries.

 

[Sareln]

Thats a good idea, we may as well stick with their formating.

Tried it out, but it looks like we're going to want a new template of our own, since the available promotions are tied into the CIV IV Basics, and it doesn't support "required buildings"

Who knows how to template in Wikis?

 

[Nikis-Knight]

I don't know too much about the formatting. I'm starting on the spells, but anyone is welcome to clean up! Generally, I think first priority (With the caveat that anyone can verywell add what they want to) is to get answers to some of the more common questions.

edit: I should add that by "starting on the spells" I meant copying Kael's spell post and editing it.

 

[Sareln]

Tried it out, but it looks like we're going to want a new template of our own, since the available promotions are tied into the CIV IV Basics, and it doesn't support "required buildings"

Who knows how to template in Wikis?

When in doubt, ask around. I've copy pasted and then modded the normal unit template for the CIV IV wiki. Congratulations we are now the proud possessers of a FfH_Unit_Info template that looks remarkable similar to the normal CIV IV Template without actually messing with the normal CIV IV stuff. Yay. For an example of what it looks like, scoot over to the Hunter entry in the FfH wiki.

Few questions:
Should we remove picture for the time being from the template? (they're nice and all, but it feels like a lot of work to upload that stuff now)
Should we keep the Unit cost part of the template? It feels less useful to just spit out a number that is bound to change, over and over and over again, and scale with speed.

Edit 1:

Working my way down the Units page, adding the FfH_ tag to the beginning so they don't mess with other Mods or CIV proper. I'm using the [[FfH_Archer|Archer]] format since we can assume anybody looking at the page knows it's for Fall from heaven. The actual unit pages do have th FfH_ tag on them though.

Edit 2:

Managed to go from A - C, will try and get through both D (for dwarves) and E (for elves) after a short little run.

 

[mervvyn]

I did a front page for promotions, should be good to go to start filling in individual entries.
Edit: and also civics.

 

[Sareln]

Well, I finished all the way through H (adding the FfH tag) and know that you can move pages that are already made. So don't let the lack of a FfH tag stop you from adding stuff. I don't know the stats of most units off the top of my head, is there a master file of that stuff somewhere? And the template is more or less ready. Maybe some comments before we finalize (and it's always changeable which is what makes wiki great)

 

[Xuenay]

Should we keep the Unit cost part of the template? It feels less useful to just spit out a number that is bound to change, over and over and over again, and scale with speed.

I'd like for the unit cost to be kept. It's a useful number for doing analysis, after all.

 

[YohanLeafheart]

I created a small ring template to put on the bottom of every FfH page, to make it easier to navigate. To use just add the following code on the bottom of the page

{{FfH Ring}}

Another thing, Kael, will we use the naming convention of the Civ4Wiki, i.e. adding _(Resource) for the Resources, etc

 

[Sareln]

Finished tagging the units. I'm writing up a short how-to on the Unit Template. Will post it here when finished.

 

[Nikis-Knight]

Need to be careful with some items with duplicate names, for example the summoner link in units takes you to the summoner trait.

 

[Sareln]

I’ve created/hacked together a unit template for fall from heaven units. To use the Template, just put in this box:

{{FfH_Unit_Info |
FfH_Version = 0.14d |
Unit_Name = Hunter |
Icon_Name = FfH_Hunter_icon.png |
Unit_Type = Recon Units |
Unit_Strength = 3 |
Unit_Movement = 2 |
Unit_Cost = 25? |
Unit_Tech = [[FfH_Hunting|Hunting]] |
Unit_Building = [[FfH_Hunting Lodge|Hunting Lodge]] |
Unit_Resource = None |
Unit_Upgrades = [[FfH_Ranger|Ranger]] |
Unit_Specials = +100% versus [[FfH_Animals|Animals]] <br>No bad goodies <br> can carry a [[FfH_Raven|Raven]] or [[FfH_Hawk|Hawk]]|
}}

I&#8217;ve used the hunter as an example. Notice that the <br> command will break the line and start a new line, useful for creating lists. Have fun.

Note: I put in the version number for FfH so people would no what is recent and what is not. Ie. If a design team member goes through and puts in .15 values, people wouldn&#8217;t erroneously change them back to .14d values.

I&#8217;ve also noticed that we have some overlap between unit names and promotions. Suggestion is that we add the _Promotion tag to the end of promotion links so they go to the right place.

I know it's even more work for the taggers, but perhaps we should end the _Trait and _Unit tags as well so there's no... confusion.

 

[YohanLeafheart]

I know it's even more work for the taggers, but perhaps we should end the _Trait and _Unit tags as well so there's no... confusion.

I think we should keep with the format of the Civ4Wiki _(Promotion). I'm finishing the evil civilizations now, as soon as I'm done I will retag them. I'm not using a template right now, because the one I thought needed an upgraded version of the mediawiki. I talked to the admin and he said one is coming soon, so I will wait.

EDIT: I retagged the atributes and moved all the pages to use the _(Trait) in the end. For example, the Aggressive is now FfH Aggressive (Trait).

 

[Sareln]

I think we should keep with the format of the Civ4Wiki _(Promotion). I'm finishing the evil civilizations now, as soon as I'm done I will retag them. I'm not using a template right now, because the one I thought needed an upgraded version of the mediawiki. I talked to the admin and he said one is coming soon, so I will wait.

EDIT: I retagged the atributes and moved all the pages to use the _(Trait) in the end. For example, the Aggressive is now FfH Aggressive (Trait).

Wasn't even aware of that format... cool. I'll add the _(Unit) to the units page after I get back from my run.

 

[Jono]

Edit: my bad, it was intended.

 

[Sareln]

Edit: my bad, it was intended.

I've dealt with the redirect and put in the template... but I dunno the stats for the marksman off the top of my head. Or most of the other units for that matter. Is there any one place where that information is compiled? and if it's XML, can someone show me how to read it?

EDIT 1:

... and the unit page are now graced with the _(Unit) tag. Unfortuantly this may have broken a couple links, but I think that since I moved the pages first, they may hit automatic redirects. Only time will tell.

BTW, the request above still stands... I don't want to have to boot up CIV to look at the Civilopedia whenever I fee like contributing to the Unit Pages or anywhere else.

Oh, and the Neutral Civ template is now a wonderful Grey/Gray... have fun.

EDIT 2:

Added a nice frontpiece to the frontpage, with a small overview and a new features highlight for new players.

 

[Xuenay]

I've dealt with the redirect and put in the template... but I dunno the stats for the marksman off the top of my head. Or most of the other units for that matter. Is there any one place where that information is compiled? and if it's XML, can someone show me how to read it?

Most of the stuff can be found in the FfH Editor, I believe. Check out the .xls file in Civilization 4\Mods\Fall from Heaven.

 

[Sareln]

Most of the stuff can be found in the FfH Editor, I believe. Check out the .xls file in Civilization 4\Mods\Fall from Heaven.

How does one open the editor?