Fascist Patch for Civ3

[AceDragon]

I am open minded and wanted to try it, but decided against it for the reason that it overwrites stuff in the Civ3 folder. I'd definitely try a version that didn't.

All in all, I liked what I've read about it.
Just my opinion.

 

[Wolfshanze]

I don't know of any mods that don't require at least a single file to be overwritten.

Bottom line, if you wanna make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs.

What's the big fear anyways, you have the master CD!

 

[AceDragon]

I guess you're right, Wolfshanze. No sense of adventure.

Here goes. I'll install the patch when it completes download.

 

[Ruger]

Well I did manage to download and install it and I would like to say this is a great addition. Right now I am crushing the stinking French with my panzers and after I mop them up I am thinking the English will be next...Hmmmmm....If only my stupid buddies in Japan where not all the way over in South America......Anyhow it is a sweet add-on and shame on you close minded people with your petty critical #$@%. And yes I also enjoy beating people with a bat in Grand Theft Auto....I get alot of guilty pleasure out of these games. Maybe I was not held enough as a child...Maybe too much. Maybe I just babble to much......
Anyway great patch!!!

 

[AceDragon]

I downloaded the full patch (where Hitler is included) and installed according to the readme. Everything works fine, except for one small hitch... the military advisor screen is black??? I can't make out hardly anything. Help please.

Fascism works as a gov. I am not sure if my computer opponents tried it, but I went all out playing the Germans and dominating.
Now time to try out Regent level or Monarch. <evil grin>

One note, I don't think it's feasible to do but when you hurry/rush something and the population shrinks... The foreign nationals should be wiped out first not your population. It might not be possible to do.

Further, let me add my thanks to those who made or contributed to a great mod. Another government type is just what Civ3 needed.
I am not saying I condone Fascism and want to join a neo-nazi party. Even if you don't like Fascism I would still recommend this mod. Give the computer another way to challenge you. Let the computer be the bad guy if you don't wanna try Fascism. As far as war-mongering goes, It's better than Monarchy or Republic. In peace time Democracy is still top-notch but the war weariness thing can be crippling.

Thanks again.

 

[Wolfshanze]

The military advisor screen is not modified in any way, shape or form in the Fascist Patch (any version), so any problem you have with said screen should not have originated from the Fascist Patch (none of the changes in the Fascist Patch have anything to do with the advisor screen).

One note of importance, the current version of the Fascist Patch was made specifically for the official v1.21 release of Civ3, so you need to make sure you upgraded Civ3 to v1.21 BEFORE installing the Fascist Patch.

If you are still having problems with any aspect of the game, I highly suggest uninstalling and re-installing the game, then apply the official v1.21 patch, THEN LASTLY, apply the Fascist Patch.

As for any nutcases who thinks people to be Fascists just for using this patch, remember that these same people have no qualms about simulating their military armies slaughtering entire civilizations in the name of Democracy, or dropping Atom Bombs left and right, radiating millions of people.

It's a GAME people, not real life, so drop the righteousness.

 

[AceDragon]

The first game I played the military advisor screen was dark. I don't know how or why... next game everything work great.
No complaints. (weird) Must say I like it and enjoy it.

Thank you again for your hard work.

 

[Sergeant Jimmy]

I just downloaded the patch and it seems to be working great, good job Wolf,

for further decision of the Fascist/Nazi government model, you might research what is now know as "The Third Way".

 

[nwoglobalist]

Is there anyway to get this patch to work with Marla Singer's World Map? The rules on that scenario have been altered and makes this patch useless... but I love that map with accurate starting positions. I mean, who wants to see America and Nazi Germany as neighbors?

 

[bnmac3]

I would rather have it with the kittenofchaos mod. Is there any way to make that happen?

 

[nwoglobalist]

Originally posted by bnmac3
I would rather have it with the kittenofchaos mod. Is there any way to make that happen?

Actually, I was able to run the patch with KittenofChaos map. My problem was that Washington D. C. was just several tiles away from Berlin! And China wasn't too far away either. Is this normal with this map? Because, I thought it was supposed to have correct starting positions.

 

[bnmac3]

How did you run the patch? I love the kittenofchaos mod, and did you just install it and it picked it up? just courious.....

 

[captain walrus]

I love history, and many innaccuracies need to be corrected.
First: Fascism was created in Italy. It is based on nationalism to an extreme. It has an executive with full power (basically a dictator) and a weak elected legislature that usually deals with social issues. Second: Fascist governments were established in Italy, Germany, Spain, many Balkan states, and many South American countries. Third: Although Germany had a Fascist form of government, it was run by Nazis. Nazis believe in a supreme race and kill the Jews and conquer the world and stuff like that. If a Nazism patch was created, it is time to be outraged. Some Fascist regimes were good to ALL it's people and brought prosperity and peace (like in Spain, unfortunatley there was a bloody civil war first but...) Fascism is a historically important government and should not be ignored. Call to Power had Fascism why not Civ3? As for historical accuracy and balance, I will be releasing a government patch that has a much more balanced Fascist government. If you choose Fascism as your government, you DONT HAVE TO BE HITLER!

 

[Wolfshanze]

Wow, some people get in a fuss very quickly.

It's simply amazing how many people keep saying Fascism is the same as Despotism, only to be countered by the people that say Fascists and Nazis are differant.

We go from extreme generalizations, to people who like to split hairs.

Look it up in a dictionary, Nazi Germany is often refered to as FASCIST Germany much in the same breath that Imperial Japan was considered Fascist.

In a game as generic as Civ3, one can't be too specific (look at Democracy, Republic, Monarchy... I could go into all kinds of tirrades much like captain walrus and say that a constitutional monarchy is differant from a regular monarchy or I could go into the differant types of Democracies). Facts are facts, Nazis are a form of Fascists, and in a game that looks at GOVERNMENT EFFECTS, one is truely splitting hairs between an ultra-right-wing Fascist and an ultra-right-wing Nazi. They both run their governments with a Totalitarian regime and a free-market economy, and in a game as generic as Civ3, to split hairs between them is frankly, absurd and a bit anal.

As for Hitler himself, he's represented as the leader of Germany... not of France, England, America or any other country. Hitler in Civ3, is not a Fascist, a Nazi, a Communist, a Democrat or a Monarchist. He can be any of them... you might have Germany led by a Communist Hitler.

The Fascist Patch does not make you become Hitler, nor does it make you Fascist. You can choose to fight AGAINST HITLER... you can be a democracy or a fascist, and never be Hitler, it doesn't matter, furthermore, if you're panties get up in a bunch that easily, you don't even have to download the patch with Hitler at all, so please, relax, sit for a spell, take a chill pill, stop flaming other people and claiming supreme omnipotence and realize that in a game as generic as Civ3, trying to split the differance between a Fascist and a Nazi is frankly rather anal retentive.

 

[1297ad]

To the people who said that fascism simply had to be the most evil form of government ever...read The Gulag Archepeligo *shudder*
Yet Solzetitzhen (sp?) moved back to Mother Russia...go figure...
As for the game, it was quite a change from civ2, and i kept playin civ2 for a while, after i got it, but it's grown on me (no fungi jokes, here...)
The only real prob I have with it, is the unbearable corruption in ALL forms of gov.'s...I like to play on huge maps....how in the hell does the AI spread out so much, so quickly, across oceans???

 

[Backup]

I installed the patch but I don't feel like starting from the beggining. In Civ2 we had WWII scenarios which were great, what about Civ 3? What are my opinions? I want to jump right in to Global War... thanks.

P.S: And thanks Wolfschanze for the mod.

 

[Citizen_K]

Yeah, 1297ad, you're just a little bit off-topic here , believe me there are plenty of threads about the inadequacy of the corruption model in the game, and the opposite. It's a change from CivII, but if you want help download the 1.21f patch because the Courthouse and Police Station do a lot more now.

As for this patch, I used it before I got 1.21f, then I started to wonder if it was having an unbalancing effect on my game. For all intents and purposes, it is the same as taking a Republic and stripping the War Weariness from it, and for that reason I discarded it. It's just too powerful.

 

[Wolfshanze]

In response to the last post... he's essentially correct, but misses a few points... yes, it's LIKE Republic with no war weariness... but he completely missed two critical points!

Who uses Republic in the late game? Republic is an early form of government, not a late one... that would be like saying Democracy is too overpowering because it's better than Monarchy or Republic... like, DUH!!!! It's supposed to be!

Bottom line, by default, in the late game, you're either going to be Communist or a Democracy... few people will choose Republic in the late game... it's simply "too-old".

Same thing with Fascism... it is a modern replacement for Republics and/or Monarchies, much like Democracy itself is a replacement for Republic.

Also not mentioned is the HUGE downside of having FORCED LABOR for project rushing in a Fascist Regime, while a Republic has money rushes... quite a differance, and a large downside...

So don't jump to conclusions without thinking things through... tossing out Fascism because you don't think it's balanced is a poor thing to do if you've only figured out HALF of what the government can and can't do. Furthermore, anything you can do in a Fascist regime, the computer can too!

 

[sabo]

what's everyone complaining about? If we eliminate the facist patch because someone complains, what's next.. the nukes go? then what the battle ships and destroyers cuz they've killed people too? Get a grip, it's just a game. By the way, what kind of movies do you watch, none with any killing in them I hope.

 

[captain walrus]

Movies with tons of killing!
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