Fascist Patch for Civ3

[fascistdictator]

Wolfshanse I just wanted you to know I just visited your site and I am completely disgusted. When I seen those swastika's all over my screen I vomited four times straight, then I read my bible 14 times just to get the thought out of my head, I then proceeded to the phone and promptly called the pope who blessed me of your filth. I honestly thought my monitor was going to explode when all that evil was in my holy presence.

 

[fascistdictator]

Come on Wolfshanze dont leave your fans in the dark, tell us of your progress for the new patch. What's wrong with everyone its like people are to lazy to post or somethin.

 

[fascistdictator]

Anowl Nothrak Uss Voss Bethot Dothiowl Denvy:crazyeyes

 

[Kentonio]

El gran capitán, I fully agree with you about facism being included in the game, although the facist havnt accounted for much actual time in history their effect (especially the nazis) has had a massive effect on the world and as such MUST be included.

Maybe people need to stop being so damn pathetic. This purile nonsense about not including what was inarguably an evil form of government is stupid and is in itself a form of facist thinking.

'This mod should not be advertised on this page'
'The author is obviously a facist himself'
'Including this form of government encourages people to play the game in a facist mentality'

These kind of comments that ive read in this thread are for me laughable and childish, not to mention quite facist themselves. If you dont like the mod, dont download it but dont try and tell me and others what we can and cant see and play. We have the freedom to do what we want due to a war that killed millions and was fought to grant us the right to freedom. And guess who we were fighting?

Oh and Capitan, Napoleon wasnt responsible for the mass executions of the revolution, they were caused by a succession of popular leaders the bloodiest of which was probably the suave Robespierre, who himself ended up on the guillotine.

Kentonio

 

[S1Genocide]

What about spiritually correct?

WE ARE ALL HEATHANS HERE!

 

[kaigun]

well if we are going to be PC lets be PC nazism and Faschism are not and never were the same.Faschism was a political idea developed from Hegel through an italian philospher Emile Vico;a different version of Marx interpretation of Hegel.It had an organized philosophical base Nazism never did it was a CULT with more similarities to the religious cults of the 20 century than any political ideology...hence the fanatacism and denial of reality it was a new religion with a new jesuit order the SS...If you want to model Nazism look at fundementalism.Ok so Italy and germany were on the same side that doesnt make them the same Finland was in the axis too...also the US and the USSR were on the same side no one ever tries to argue that they are or were the same...
nazism withered without its god/leader..Faschism continued the MSI is still a political force in Modern Italy as are the Peronist parties in Argentina...the reformed Carlist anf Phalange parties exist in Spain....Faschism masy not be popular but it is aviable political idea ....Nazism isnt wasnt wont be it was a CULT with trappings of socialism nationalism and Faschism ....summed up in the catch all party name NSDAP NATIONAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC WORKERS PARTY

 

[fascistdictator]

Actually NSDAP stood for National Socialist German Workers Party. The "D" comes from Germany being spelled with a D in German- Deutschland

 

[Wolfshanze]

Hello, old Wolfshanze here... sorry for my long absence, but between overseas deployments and other military commitments, I have not had any spare time until now to work on the Fascist Patch.

Well, I finally sat down to "officially" support v1.17f with the Fascist Patch, and to ENSURE complete compatability, I put a fresh install of Civ3 on my computer and a fresh upgrade to v1.17f, so that nothing was tainted.

I then proceeded to do all the necessary changes using the built-in Civ3Edit program, added Fascism, and did all the other needed changes, then tried to run the game, and it popped up saying:

SCENARIO VERSION INVALID
Invalid scenario version
Version 3.00 is no longer compatible

"What the heck is that" I said. I've never had a problem using the editor before, especially off a clean install... I thought maybe something went wrong, so I uninstalled, reinstalled the game, and the v1.17f patch, then used the editor again and got the exact same error message.

I know I've been gone a long time, but what the heck happened? Am I doing something wrong? Did I miss something? Until I figure this thing out, I can't "officially" support the v1.17f patch!

Someone help please?!?!

 

[Wolfshanze]

Okay, never mind the above post... the bright people at Firaxis saw fit to include the wrong version of the editor in their own download of the v1.17f patch.

Anyhoo, I have successfully updated the Fascist Patch to "officially" support the v1.17f Firaxis Civ3 patch... it can be downloaded now at the Fascist Patch website (as evil as it's reputation is).

So go download v2.1 and v2.1NH now!

 

[WhiteKnight]

Is there anyway to stack your patch with IceBlaze's Israel-Decorruption and Realism- patch? I want to have a game with both Nazi Germany/Fascism and the Israelis.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Yes, there certainly is a way, but I don't forsee myself doing it, because adding any new Civs is not anything I'm doing with this patch.

I'm not sure how in-depth the Israeli patch by itself is, but what I would do if I were you, is see which one is more "complicated" a patch, and simply use it as the base, and import the easier patch's rules/changes into it yourself.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Okay, as of 20 April 2002, release 2.2 of the Fascist Patch is out with full support of the official 1.21f version of Civ3.

 

[Cecasander]

First of all, I haven't read all the posts, since the texts are very long and almost go about the same. So I like to give my impression on the 'longlasting' post...

(note that i'm not a facist myself, too...)

Why is Communism in Civ3 and Facism isn't? The Germans killed six million judes. So? Stalin's frenzies killed over 20 million. The normal people didn't have to be afraid for the Germans when they followed the rules and didn't hide any illigals. A very lot of people in the SU were killed, just becouse Stalin feared them. He even ordered his army to kill an entire Russian that was on their way to conquer Berlin in 1945, becouse Stalin was afraid the army commander would became to famous.
There are very other bod things about the sovjets.

I think the attitude to this mod from a few people on this topic really stinks. If they don't like it, then let them leave. They aren't forced to download it!

In theory, the facistic idea could be quite successfull. Note that, if the Germans slowed down the advance on russia a bit, entire Europa should be conquered by them. And them we should still be talking german at this very moment in my country (holland).
...........

<more to come since a lack of time>

 

[Ruger]

Why is this even a such a big deal to people? Its a swell new form of goverment.....In fact you really would have to tone it down a bit just to keep the game play balanced I would think. Maybe make it so most other countries automatically dislike you a little bit more. I dunno I think its a swell idea! Some of you people are way to PC. I for one love playing the world map with all the big players of WWII. I think its kinda cool to rewrite history. I mean you don't see people flinch that much when you mention the Romans or the soviets.....But mention WWII Germany and everyone has a heated opinion. To tell the truth if Nazi Germany had not been so into the whole mass-murder thing who wouldn't support going after the evil commies......Or the stinking French for that matter

BTW: A little off subject.....Does anyone have a huge earth map with all the proper starting locations....But without any kind of rules/unit changes?

 

[roalan]

That's what Facism was about murdering other races. If it was not for the depression in the early 30's facism would not have gotten off the ground. The Corporal would have remained a not so good painter.

 

[Wolfshanze]

It's a good thing that the only "bad" form of government was Fascism... after all, we all know the Communists never hurt a fly (ahem, 20-million dead Russians), or that the Democratic Americans or the Roman Republic never instituted mass slavery, or that the Spanish Monarchy never had the inquisition.

Get over it... the history of mankind does not need a form of government to commit barbarity... they find ways under any system to do it, so why the mass-murdering communists or slave-owning democracies and republics get to be represented, but the Fascists don't, that's a very odd form of selective history making.

 

[Emmet Samms]

Best running thread on this site.

Thanks for the update to v1.21.

If this guy's site upsets you, pisses you off, makes you sick, etc. . . GOOD . . . you should go back and visit it every so often . . . get a reality check on how bad things really could be in this world if:

1.) Hitler had decided not to invade the Soviet Union.
2.) Germany had been the size of the United States.
3.) The genuine German military leadership had been allowed to run the war.
4.) All the Pacific fleet's aircraft carriers had been in port on the morning of December 7th, 1941.
5.) Adolf had transferred control of those reserve panzer divisions to one of his generals prior to taking a nap on D day.
6.) Italy had been an effective military power.
7.) etc. etc. etc....

And please keep in mind that Hitler and his cronies didn't shove millions of poor souls into those gas ovens all by themselves. "Just following orders" was the pat answer at the Nuremberg trials, much as it still is today.

Democracy didn't decimate the Native American Indian population . . . an apathetic, if not altogether amiable, acceptance of greed induced attitudes based on self-interest did. The rest was simply socio-babble, designed to lubricate the wheels of self-vindicating mental masturbation for the masses. All of which only goes to show that a specific government type does not, in and of itself, denote evil. It is, rather, those who utilize it to further their own twisted ambitions that corrupt any and all forms of government. (i.e. ideological Communism is a truly great idea [work according to your ability; take according to your need] but it doesn't work in reality for all the reasons I've mentioned above.) Actually, we here in America appear to becoming more and more Fascist ourselves (especially since Sept. 11th). But then, it is my opinion that if Fascism does slither its way into this country it will undoubtedly be called 'Patriotism'.

There, that should piss off just about everybody.

Good MOD. Although, based on historical recollection, perhaps corruption should be higher.

Sobering site, which does, I feel, capture the real essence of the period; and, as scary as that may be, gives us an uncanny insight into the actual fanatical reality of such a moment in history.

Besides, when I play civIII I want to compete against (and kick the crap out of) the most evil rat bastards the world has to offer . . . and Adolf is, undoubtedly, one of the worst. ES

PS: and just for the record, I'm not prejudiced . . . I hate everybody equally.


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[Wolfshanze]

Well said... especially the fact that a government in and of itself is not evil, merely the people in charge... if Hitler was president of the United States, would he have been any less evil?

 

[chesterRK12345]

its just crazy what a big deal your al making of this. i myself am and find no problem in what this patch is doing. if you dont like this patch, dont downlod, if you dont like thi post, dont look at it, and then dont post replies to it, pushing it up for more people to see. this patch makes things more historically correct, but if you would prefer not to d/l it, dont. its that simple, dont waste this sites space wth your opinion, save it for a site designed for that, if yu are anti-facist, thats fine, i agree with you, but we dont need to hear it here. i dont plan on d/l'ing this patch, but thats because im not interested in another form of gvnt, if i wasi wuld d/l it. please keep your opinoins to yourself, or keep them somewhere else.

 

[Emmet Samms]

Hey chester,

I see you had no qualms about leaving YOUR opinion here.

And you really need to get yourself a spell checker. ES




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