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[Immaculate]

I have no idea what happened with the Grigori (you can e-mail me if you like Charles)...

@Vruchten: nice story- very different then how i imagined it. (didn't seem unrefined to me...)

 

[Northen Wolf]

UPDATE ZERO: A WORLD OF POSSIBILITY​

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To the south of the Sheim grew the great Kuriotate city of Averlorn. It was a cosmopolitan place with races from throuhout Erebus including elves, dwarves, centaurs and even some llamas.

@ Northen Wolf:
The lamias and centaurs have not be uncovered yet... i never spoke of them and they weren't really a bit thing for me when i 'played' the kurios... its up to you what role they have in your society... its your kuriotates after all... you can say they are powerful group with their own ambitions, very small group, or simply don't exist on 'this erebus'.

So they do exist... (and I got bit off-topic) WTH is a "llama"...

You ... mean ...

Spoiler this?!?!?!?! :

If they are one of the founding races of kuriotates, I'll put Llamas into city planner position.

Spoiler ancient tradition and all :

If they are "resource" like horses, then llama riders?
(no offense please, just found it funny

So, they(centaurs and Lamias) do exist on this erbus, I'll use 'em

 

[Ekolite]

I think it's unrealistic that different races have such a focus on different aspects of the Kuriotate civ. I mean yeah, some races might have a natural skill in things like speed or inteligence, which give them an advantage in certain types of career, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't get the occasional Centaur Alchemist or Lamian General. Categorising the races like that is just plain strange I think.

 

[orangelex44]

I don't know - it could be a caste society.

 

[Northen Wolf]

I think it's unrealistic that different races have such a focus on different aspects of the Kuriotate civ. I mean yeah, some races might have a natural skill in things like speed or inteligence, which give them an advantage in certain types of career, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't get the occasional Centaur Alchemist or Lamian General. Categorising the races like that is just plain strange I think.

Yes, just they have more races, and more different race leaders (being republic and all). Centaurs are better in fighting, lamias are better in magic etc. This does not mean, that professional Kappa soldier is any worse than Centaur soldier, just centaurs tend to get same results with less work. They need more work in other things.

 

[Immaculate]

oh yeah, i don't remember what update it was exactly but the city of kwythellar has lots of goblins because they took in the goblin (but not other races) refugees of the clan of embers.

 

[vruchten]

@Vruchten: nice story- very different then how i imagined it. (didn't seem unrefined to me...)

thanks! actually was there a desciption on the corbus earlier? I looked but i didn`t find anything very specific... which makes sense, because they are living quite isolated to far...

 

[Northen Wolf]

Calamine
Game Effect: Generates 1.5 production capacity, 1 gold, and pewter (aka zinc) resource (requires calamine deposits) (can be upgraded to from an open pit mine)

Pewter is a malleable metal alloy, traditionally between 85 and 99 percent tin,

So, do I treat pewter/zinc as "tin" - I can smith bronze weapons out of copper+tin? (if I had both of 'em)

or is zinc treated as "brass"

hey made brass by heating powdered calamine (zinc silicate or carbonate), charcoal and copper together in a crucible. The resulting calamine brass was then either cast or hammered into shape and was used in weaponry

EDIT: dammit, everyone else seem to be so smart
EDIT2: I'm dumb
EDIT3: I'm very dumb :/

 

[Immaculate]

better late then never:

Tech Tree:

Spoiler :

Current geopolitical map:

Spoiler :

 

[Immaculate]

zinc is different than tin.

zinc and copper make brass.

tin and copper make bronze- much better!

there is no technology for bronze yet.. and yet we can summon demons- goes to show where people's priorities lie.

 

[Tyrs]

Its because the demon summoning type like researching, while the most likely to use bronze prefer...other things. Like clubbing each other.

 

[kenkrajen]

It's nice to see the tree updated. Where do infantry formations go?

 

[Immaculate]

infantry formations have not yet been uncovered. (but you can probably guess)

 

[Terrance888]

Hey, are the Lizardmen still there?

Recon sent.

 

[Immaculate]

ughh... do you mean thats your recon orders? i didn't get an e-mail.

 

[LDiCesare]

I think it's unrealistic that different races have such a focus on different aspects of the Kuriotate civ. I mean yeah, some races might have a natural skill in things like speed or inteligence, which give them an advantage in certain types of career, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't get the occasional Centaur Alchemist or Lamian General. Categorising the races like that is just plain strange I think.

Actually that's how it is in canon lore and I think it is very realistic. Centaurs are the warrior caste. In a caste system society like what Kuriotates are in default lore, or in classical real world India, it is extremely hard to move from one caste to another. Consider that real world Indians wouldn't allow a fisher's son to be anything but a fisher (I'm only slightly exaggerating). Now consider a society where the caste difference is a race, you don't have as many limbs as the next. The prejudice would be so huge that there wouldn't be any caste crossing.

 

[Northen Wolf]

This specialization and segregation has given rise to something akin to a Caste system, another reason the Kuriotates have such a stable central government. While the humans are the jack of all trades, each of the races have found their niche, dominating their own area. The Centaurs, the warrior caste, hold many high positions in the army, the Lamia wield great magical power, and command respect among the magi, and so on. Since all these subcultures owe allegiance to the king alone, they act, in their specialized roles, as an effective bulwark against the ambitions of human noblemen.

But not all. So, if you are good at something, you can be better than Centaur, but centaur soldier needs less training than grigori for an example, what does not mean that commander might not be "Grigori".

 

[LDiCesare]

But not all. So, if you are good at something, you can be better than Centaur, but centaur soldier needs less training than grigori for an example, what does not mean that commander might not be "Grigori".

Yes, but the society may not allow you to do it because you don't belong to the right caste. Maybe a ksatriya has all the abilities to make a good priest, he will never be allowed to become one because he is not a brahman. In the Ramayana, the world order is threatened because one low-caste man is meditating and being ascetic. He has to be killed in order for the world not to be destroyed (more or less). If he had been a brahman, his acts would have been good, but he is not and therefore they are utterly evil. So, it is totally possible and plausible to have a society which actively prevents able people from doing the job they are fit to because of caste/race/ethnicity prejudice.
Of course that doesn't mean that Kuriotates should be that way; I just wanted to point to Kol that in fact such societies exist in the real world.

 

[LDiCesare]

Immac, the post with the updates is wrong.
The urls for parts 2 are wrong. For instance it should be http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8032891&postcount=1894 instead of http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8032889&postcount=1894 for update 16. The postcount info in the url is actually useless and ignored by the web server, so increasing it to get the part2 url doesn't work. I think you should check and fix those. I'm not sure which ones are flawed and I don't have the time to list them now.
Edit:
Update 14 part 1 seems wrong while part2 is ok.

 

[Immaculate]

Thank you; i appreciate your attention to these details.
the problem should now be corrected.