FinMod

Due to my ISP rearranging the www-side of things at the moment, the mod is temporarily unavailable. If it takes too long, I'll upload it temporarily to a mirror site. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,
Uluk
 
Thanks, now we can add it in CIV Gold 2.0 :)
 
I know this mod is not 1.61 compliant, but there are also some things that are likely to go unnoticed when making it compliant. Namely, somewhere between 1.09 and 1.61 certain properties have changed, especially in the leaderheads. It would be nice to get the unintended changes eliminated from this mod (by taking the new values from 1.61) and the values for Mannerheim and Kekkonen adjusted accordingly.

Maybe the following files will be helpful in this undertaking:

http://tdb.fi/~tdb/FinMod.Civ4Mod.gz - Civ4Modder file for the mod, with the extra changes eliminated (not sure if it's fully compatible with 0.3.1...)

http://tdb.fi/~tdb/finmod_report.txt - Mod report generated by Civ4Modder

The format of the latter file might be a bit counterintuitive, since values deeper in the structure are reported first, but I'm sure you'll catch on to it easily enough.
 
Good post. I didn't know that. Thanks. And thanks for the mirror too. :)

I have always tried to include any changes caused by updates but I'm pretty sure I would have missed that leaderhead part this time around... I'll surely refer to that post of yours if and when I manage to pull off another update. Meanwhile, enjoy the midsummer. :)

[EDIT: The FinMod files are now once again available. I moved the files to a different server. This is only a temporary solution so don't be alarmed if they disappear again.]

Cheers,
Uluk
 
Kahkonen said:
Hey! That's it! You can sure find more Finnish Great Persons of all types of them. Let's list:

Artists:
Jean Sibelius
Alvar Aalto
Akseli Gallen-Kallela
Helene Schjerfbeck

Scientists:
A.I. Virtanen
Linus Torvalds
Johan Gadolin

Prophets:
Lars Levi Laestadius (actually Swedish)
Paavo Ruotsalainen
Fredrik Gabriel Hedberg
Abraham Achrenius

Engineers:
Are architecs artists or engineers?
If engineers: Uno Ullberg, Eliel Saarinen (and Aalto)

Merchants:
?
My suggestions for Great General/soldier:

Marshal Mannerheim (if not already as a Leader)
General Adolf Ehrnrooth
General Aaro Pajari
Chief Warrant Officer or 'Lentomerstari' Imari Juutilainen ( Lentomerstari is now obsolete Finnish airforce rank)
General Rubel Lagus
Captain Lauri Törni (aka Major Larry A. Thorne)
General Hjalmar Siilasvuo
General Karl Oecsh
 
kebable said:
My suggestions for Great General/soldier:

Marshal Mannerheim (if not already as a Leader)
General Adolf Ehrnrooth
General Aaro Pajari
Chief Warrant Officer or 'Lentomerstari' Imari Juutilainen ( Lentomerstari is now obsolete Finnish airforce rank)
General Rubel Lagus
Captain Lauri Törni (aka Major Larry A. Thorne)
General Hjalmar Siilasvuo
General Karl Oecsh

Mannerheim is the boss already. Törni is only captain, but maybe acceptable because of being so famous. But why only II WW? How about:

Torkkeli Knuutinpoika (Torkel Knutsson)
Knut Posse
Jaakko Ilkka
"Laiska-Jaakko" (Lazy Jacob) Jacob De la Gardie
Georg Magnus Sprengtporten (who fought for and against Finland...)
Paavo Talvela

But special building must be sauna.
 
Sauna is a very obvious unique building, but what should it replace? My initial idea would have been replacing aqueduct and producing +2 happiness in addition to health, but the Ottoman hammam has exactly the same effect. Fitting though, as they are kind of similar.

One might also consider some of the new leader traits. Protective could be fitting.
 
C~G said:
I think the protective would be very nice indeed.
Even though the finnish artillery wasn't that impressive in overall it played one of the most important parts in those decivise battles of summer 44'.

Thought protective for Mannerheim since I saw it.
 
Kissamies said:
Sauna is a very obvious unique building, but what should it replace? My initial idea would have been replacing aqueduct and producing +2 happiness in addition to health, but the Ottoman hammam has exactly the same effect. Fitting though, as they are kind of similar.

One might also consider some of the new leader traits. Protective could be fitting.

I was thinking that sauna should be made available to all civs after they make contact to Finns, but the cost should be +20 or even +50% more the buildingcost and bonuses -50% of Finnish-civ built sauna ( representing inefficient/incorrect usage).
Also a Sauna should produce +1 culture for Finns only. :crazyeye:
 
Kissamies said:
Sauna is a very obvious unique building, but what should it replace? My initial idea would have been replacing aqueduct and producing +2 happiness in addition to health, but the Ottoman hammam has exactly the same effect. Fitting though, as they are kind of similar.

It is +2 health as a base, so how about:

+2 culture
or
+1 culture
+1 happiness

If you want differ.

Or... jääkiekkohalli <> Colosseum:
+1 culture
+1 happiness
:lol:
 
Kahkonen said:
Or... j&#228;&#228;kiekkohalli <> Colosseum:
+1 culture
+1 happiness
:lol:

Now this is a good idea !!!
Colosseum is an ancient era building and IMO it does not fit in the culture of any 'modern' civ.

btw, there should be then a new world wonder: The Olympic Games.
+3 to Diplo (or something) to all participating civs against each other, + a few golds every 4 turns or so.. ;)
 
+1 happiness and culture was my second idea. Slightly silly maybe, but still pretty reasonable. Another way would be using the ol' l&#246;yly stone idea:
Sauna gives +1 extra health in addition to base +2, and extra happiness if you have access to certain resources: +1 for stones and +1 for wine, or perhaps pig for sausages.
 
How about adding +1 happiness (per tile) if there are snow or lake near in that citys radius where the Sauna is buildt.Why? Because in Finland (some) people go in winter to roll in snow (I know how ridicilous it sounds to someone who doesn't live in Finland or haven't heard of it, but I do speak truth).And people go usually to swim after or before going in to Sauna.

Here is a link for finnish merchants.
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Suomalaiset_liikemiehet
And in english.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Finnish_businesspeople
I recommend visiting both.
 
Hmm, how about normal aqueduct health, +1 :), extra +1 :) for fresh water access, and another extra +1 :) for a resource? Potential +3 happiness, but only +1 is assured.
 
Kissamies said:
Hmm, how about normal aqueduct health, +1 :), extra +1 :) for fresh water access, and another extra +1 :) for a resource? Potential +3 happiness, but only +1 is assured.

How about culture?
 
Sauna is finnish culture, but does it generate culture like theatre? Culture wouldn't be too bad, but I'd rather go with happiness.
 
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