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I'm starting a two months workout program. I've figured I'll be working one time per day heavily (daytime) and twice "lightly" (evening and morning). There comes a time when a man wants to be bigger than he is. I have no problem with finding time for working my muscles. The problem is that I dont know what and when to eat right to grow well and grow relatively fast. I dont want to take any steroids or chemicals. So my question to you is.... What foods do you consume and when during your workout period?
 
Depending on your experience, it sounds like you're overdoing it. If you're looking to build muscle mass and strength, limit the number of workouts to 4-5 per week because the body needs time to recover.

As far as diet, stick with healthy protein sources like tuna, fish, chicken, turkey, etc.. Also incorporate nuts, beans, whole grains and some lo-fat dairy. 20-30 mins. after a workout, you wan't to replenish with a good protein source, and a rule of thumb for daily protein consumption should be around 1.0g/lb of bodyweight.
 
Even though you can't compare weight lifting to what I'm doing (biking), you may find some tips here.

:)
 
Umm if your doing a heavy workout each day you can probably eat whatever you want TBH.

Most people who excercise dont do heavy workouts every day.
 
Depending on your experience, it sounds like you're overdoing it. If you're looking to build muscle mass and strength, limit the number of workouts to 4-5 per week because the body needs time to recover.

As far as diet, stick with healthy protein sources like tuna, fish, chicken, turkey, etc.. Also incorporate nuts, beans, whole grains and some lo-fat dairy. 20-30 mins. after a workout, you wan't to replenish with a good protein source, and a rule of thumb for daily protein consumption should be around 1.0g/lb of bodyweight.

This was some great begginer info, I'll start with that. And it seems that you are right I am pushing it a little too hard. So I'll stretch in the morning and work out in the day.

@thetrooper, thanks I already found some good stuff in the thread :yup:
 
Even though you can't compare weight lifting to what I'm doing (biking), you may find some tips here.

:)

Biking: stamina building is competely different from strength, muscle building, and needs different methods; to start do large reps with small weights, then when you get stronger do smaller reps with larger weights, get a good spot partner, this is vital, someone who'll make you push the envelope but knows your limits, a mate would be good. Best idea if you want to build overall body strength is to vary which muscles you work on every day.

I.e. On monday you might do your legs and back, on Wednesday after a recovery period you might want to do arms and chest, on Friday... you get the idea. If you want a particular region of your body built up go easy at first, as said you'll get much better growth if you have a longer recovery period at first, excersing tired muscles is not beneficial, muscle fibres need time to recover. Over do it and you'll end up doing more harm than good.

Diet varies for anyone in weight lifting but of course there are a million and one sites to advise you, but there are also a million and one food additives, and frankly many of them are bunk. High Protein, high carb. The rest is a matter of opinion frankly but whatever works for you. Don't eat before you excersise, it'll limit you, try and eat meals a deal of time before you start the excersise to give your stomach a chance to digest it properly. And maximise the use of your meals in the excercise. If you need a two day recovery period, you've probably over done it.
 
The post I have in thetrooper thread applies to this as well.

2/1 carb/protein ratio 30 minutes before. 3/1 right away after. About 200-300 and 300-400 calories total for each, respectively.

For the rest of the day, listen to your body. Eat when your hungry, and eat well.
 
Depending on your experience, it sounds like you're overdoing it. If you're looking to build muscle mass and strength, limit the number of workouts to 4-5 per week

and that 4-5 assumes you are exercising any individual body part no more than 3 times per week. many consider 3 times to be too many. while you can exercise every day of the week if the workout isn't very intense this will not put much bulk on your body. to bulk up or add a lot of strength you need short workouts with high intensity followed by adequate rest.
 
Depending on your experience, it sounds like you're overdoing it.

Absolutely! This cannot be stated too clearly. If you're not used to working out on a heavy schedule already, and especially if you're starting more or less from scratch, going heavy every day is a horribly bad idea. Unless you're some kind of X-Men mutant you will not progress much and are likely to cause yourself serious injury. For a beginner, two or three sessions per week is plenty.
 
Building muscle properly requires 48 hours rest (approximately) for each muscle worked to failure. If you don't do this, you will max out WAY below where you are hoping.

If you want to get big, working the same muscle every day doesn't work as well as working them 2-3 times per week, and can greatly increase the chance of injury. You better be careful and learn what you are getting into first. You need to learn some basics of how muscles are really built before you try to get big.

edit- OK, on the Orig. Topic... food:
- The amount of food you will need will go up.
- There are three basic types of calorie rich food: carbohydrates, fat, and protein. They are all necessary in the right quantities.
...Important point: Remember that none of these (carbs, fats and proteins) are bad, the quantity of each is what is important...
- Junk food isn't the best choice because junk foods are usually EXTREMELY unbalanced. You will find way too much salt (bad for electrolyte balance), carbs and fat, and very little actual protein. However, avoiding it completely isn't absolutely necessary. Just understand what you are eating. Read those labels before eating it.
-Finally, learn to cook. You will eventually know exactly what is in your food and understand what to eat.

Long story short. Eat enough protein to allow the muscle cells to rebuild. Balance out the diet so it is nutritious (good nutrition helps speed up the cellular rebuilding process after you fatigue your muscles every two to three days). The specific foods that people eat are less important than what is in the foods. Eat the right amount of carbohydrates, protein, fat, fiber and nutrients (nutrients: AKA vitamins and minerals) and you will do fine.
 
I'm starting a two months workout program. I've figured I'll be working one time per day heavily (daytime) and twice "lightly" (evening and morning). There comes a time when a man wants to be bigger than he is. I have no problem with finding time for working my muscles. The problem is that I dont know what and when to eat right to grow well and grow relatively fast. I dont want to take any steroids or chemicals. So my question to you is.... What foods do you consume and when during your workout period?

Don't eat sugar.
 
just dont eat too much fat.

make sure youre not working on a hungry stomach (but working hard right after a meal is not a good idea).

eat something that contains protein right after work out.

ps. see what rotters said, if youre gonna work everyday make sure to work diffrent muscle groups. also for light workout id recommend jogging or something, it wont make you bigger, but stronger and healthier.
 
I'm starting a two months workout program. I've figured I'll be working one time per day heavily (daytime) and twice "lightly" (evening and morning). There comes a time when a man wants to be bigger than he is. I have no problem with finding time for working my muscles. The problem is that I dont know what and when to eat right to grow well and grow relatively fast. I dont want to take any steroids or chemicals. So my question to you is.... What foods do you consume and when during your workout period?

2 servings of meat
2 servings of dairy
3-5 servings of vegetables
2-4 servings of fruit
6-10 servings of breads/cereals

Obviously you want to pick and choose. Eating Chicken or Turkey is better than Steak or Hamburger for dietary purposes. Fish is good, once in a while, but be careful about mercury levels. Broccoli is better than snow peas. Others like Spinach are VERY good, but I can't stand Spinach. If you can handle it, it will do amazing things for you. Apples and Oranges are better than Bananas -- you should only eat one Banana a day max. Whole wheat/grain cereals and wheat bread are better than "candy" cereals and bleached (white) or Italian breads. Skim milk (you'll get used to it) is FAR better than whole milk. You should at least drink 2%. I don't even know why they make whole milk anymore.

Some tips/advice/other.

>> Natural sugars, fats, etc. are by far better for you and easier for your body to process than processed/artificial counterparts. Beware of a lot of lunch meats which may be processed with chemicals and other artificials to preserve it. Ask for "dry" or "store-baked" meats, or "non-processed".

>> Vitamins and Minerals from good foods like vegetables and fruits absorb into the body much easier and work for you better than counterparts from pill supplements -- not to say that supplements do not work or should not be taken by those with genuine deficiencies.

>> In order to get the best out of an excersize routine, each day should include an excersize that elevates the heart-rate for at least one-half hour at a time, without breaks. Your body, when starting out, will burn the easily accessible fuels like sugars and other carbs. Once you have been at it for a while, your body will switch to burning fats. It may be a good idea, if you can work it out, to excersize before breakfast, in the morning, or before other meals, that way you don't have too vast a reserve of sugars to burn and switch more quickly to burning stored fats. If you are not overweight, then you need not worry about when you eat with regard to excersizing, as long as it is not right before. (BARF!)

>> When excersizing, particularly walking, jogging, or running, in order to maximize efficiency of the excersize, one MUST ensure that one is not excersizing too hard. Your heart rate should be elevated enough that you cannot sing, but that you can still talk. Once you exceed a point where your lungs can no longer supply oxygen to your body, you will run out of energy quickly and begin to burn sugars instead of oxygen in some parts of the body. The burning of sugars in place of oxygen produces acids which will destroy muscle for a variable period of time after the excersize. It is IMPERATIVE that you pace yourself, even if that means walking instead of running.

>> Keep an eye on weight loss. Weight loss that is too rapid is unhealthy. Depending on the person and the type of excersize being done, you should not lose more than 1.5 pounds per week. 3/4 per week was my average when I was really into it. You should be prepared, though, for periods of no changes or actual weight gains. If you had been previously sedentary (inactive) you may experience initial weight gains due to muscles being built up. You WILL also experience "plateaus" where you will stop losing weight for a few weeks at a time. That does not mean that you wasting your time. You have to work through it. Your body will experience metabolic changes that will cause you to eat more and you may not even realize it.

>> Your body is going to need an increasing amount of calories per day in order to keep up with the increase in activity. Be prepared for this and do not fear to eat greater portions of the healthy foods per day in order to compensate. If you don't, you'll get tired and feel drained. You don't want to feel like crap and if you do, you'll be more likely to quit. Remember though, eat more when you are still genuinely hungry, not on an impulse and not because the food tastes good.

>> IMPORTANT: Be prepared for changes in the consistency and timing of your bowel movements & other health. When a diet is suddenly changed, the body needs time to react. It is used to processing certain types of foods and needs a week or more to adjust. You may get the "runs" or "hard cases" and you should not worry, unless it continues for extended periods of months or more. If you are mildly lactose intolerant, an increase in dairy consumption may reveal such a condition whereas it may not have been previously evident. Symptoms may range from gas pains and excessive farting after dairy intake to severe stomach and gas pains, and other intestinal issues. 12% of White Americans are lactose intolerant. The number is similar, if somewhat higher in Europe. See the following chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

None of this should be permanent, but some changes are bound to occur.

>> WATER!!! It is terribly important for you to properly hydrate before excersizing/exertion. You will feel ten times better if properly hydrated. I drink a quart of water a few hours before I excersize. DO NOT drink too much water immediately beforehand. It will do you little good hydration-wise and will make you feel sick and cause cramps. Your body needs about 1 Quart (1 Litre) to 2 Gallons (just over 7 quarts) of water per day, depending on activity. If you are going to be highly active, you want to get more toward the high end of that scale. NOTHING will substitute for water, not soda, not teas, NOTHING. The only possible exception are some extremely low calorie (15 per eight ounce serving) fruit drinks, like Minute Maid Light Lemonade, which are almost entirely water anyway. You should, however, drink mostly plain water before, during, and immediately after excersizing.



That is about all that I can think of at this time. GOOD LUCK!
 
Try eating a bunch of cookies a few hours before working out. It's harder to work out. I should know, since I do exactly that frequently. I love sweets and I work out every other day.

Hence, why I said "Don't eat artificial sugars. Natural sugars in fruits, for example, are perfeclty fine."
 
Guys I just like to thank you for the contributions. I understood I was taking it a bit to seriously and slowed down. I already see good results. I did work out for about a year seriously 5 years ago. It will take a bit of time to re-learn all this stuff. Special thanks to John for a long and detailed responce!
 
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Alright, a little guest appearance from my hiatus.

I have a few questions wrt weight training - please note that I want to increase muscular strength and endurance in my upper body. I tend to skip weight training for my legs - conflict with my biking exercise.

1. Ultimate reps?
2. Ultimate tempo?
3. Complete exhaustion of the muscle?

I usually work the abs, pectorals (bench press), biceps (curl), triceps (extension) and deltoids (shoulder press). In that order.

I'm sorry if I have used the wrong terms here - after all I write as I think in Norwegian.

Thanks!

:)
 
I go jogging regularily and I don´t really make a special diet. Just look to get enough carbohydrates (noodles), some essential fats (olive oil or cheese) and enough vegetables/fruits. I eat proteins in forms of pork or beef or turkey appr. twice a week.

A good advice : Don´t drink coffee for at least 1 hour before you exercise, your stomach will thank you. And: Drink enough water during the day ( ca. 3/4 l in one hour before exercise, but nothing in the quarter hour directly before exercise)
 
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