Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
If you have a point HK, you should make it rather than leaving people to guess.
Podolski has 95 appearances and 43 goals for the national team. I don't think you can say he's on the fringe. I guess he'll again be a starter at the Euro and by the end of it may have 100 appearences at age 27. Ballack only has 98.poldi didnt make it under the pressure that comes with playing at bayern munich, ran back home crying to mummy köln and subsequently had a few average seasons there.
marko marin looked a tad promising once and now the question is what the hell chelsea are getting an average player from an average german club for if not the bench.
both players are on the fringe of the national team.
both players are very clearly lower profile players of lower quality than the ones mentioned above, so what the hell is this tripe about?
That again? 20 % of the German population is made up of immigrants and their descendants.
Yes, but 80 % are considered ethnic Germans and that should be the only ones allowed to play for Germany or what is it what you want to say?Pangur Bán;11468637 said:100% of the German population is made up of immigrants and the descendents of immigrants.
So who did you have in mind when you made that reference to France?
P.S.: As for Scotland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_Feruz.
I still don't get what you mean by "going as far as Germany now". Would you mind to elaborate on it?Pangur Bán;11469090 said:You mentioned quite a few of the players already, but you are right that they didn't go as far as Germany now. The Faruz thing is not right either, but it's not happened yet, and I have a suspicion that if he turns out to be good enough (men from that region develop faster, so I'm sceptical as yet) there's a chance England could engineer some way to take him. I'd be happy for Scotland to thieve players from Ireland though, as they recently stole two players with no connection to Ireland except through an immigrant grandparent.
I still don't get what you mean by "going as far as Germany now". Would you mind to elaborate on it?
Simply stating that Germany "stole all these players from poor little countries and that's why they're good" is not an accurate thing to say.
Klose, Khedira, Boateng and Aogo all have one German parent. Even from a ethnic point of view, they are as much German as they are Polish/Tunisian/etc. Podolski's parents (like Klose's) came to Germany way before the Iron Curtain fell. Özil is third generation, meaning that his father already had grown up in Germany. Germany is their home - not Turkey, Tunisia, Ghana or any other place. That's why they should play for the German side. Besides, I wonder how well Khedira's Arab is?*None of these players, except Klose and Podolski, have a significant role in the team.
The non-ethnic germans Özil, Khedira, Boateng, Aogo were all born in Germany.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/25/england-euro-2012?INTCMP=SRCHLewandowski has history. Last year he had a go at several of his team-mates for not speaking Polish well enough. Referring to the players who grew up in Germany or France but have now decided to pledge their loyalty to Poland, he said they did not have to be fluent, but that they could at least try to speak the language.