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Fox-02 -- Praying to the RNG God

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by GreyFox, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    You aren't kidding, Paul.

    I'm up it this one, The Sun Never Sets, Trying to be Special, OCC/Diplo, and I just played my turns in ROTQM. That took all f--ing night to play, too.! :mad: .

    Anyway, I can play tomorrow, but I won't have an elegant/pretty report. I'm going mercenary, here.

    Paul, if you're bored waiting for me to wake up, go ahead and jump in front.
     
  2. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    i might see if i can pick this one up after dinner. you'll still be in bed, so i wont be stepping on anyone's toes. let's see who posts a got it first.
     
  3. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Well, I got it, Paul. I'll play in about an hour.
     
  4. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    yeah sorry i was stuck in an MP game. those things are pure time suckage... as is CIV generally I guess
     
  5. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Upload the save first, so I don't forget.
     
  6. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    First of all I look at our conquered lands and realize that I'm totally pissed that Vicky's culture completely encapsulates Hun and nearly does so with Madrid. To me, Nottingham (size 6), and Birmingham (size 1) shouldn't have enough culture to press us that hard.

    That's my biggest gripe about Civ4. Culture does not behave that way.

    So anyhow, I see that we've got infinite power and Vicky sucks eggs. So I demand Corporation for free. The ***** says no, but I really couldn't care less.

    Turn 1

    Democracy => Scientific Method.

    Barcelona ends revolution and begins a Theater. Dehli: Aqueduct => Budhist Monastery. Monasteries will be obsolete after Scientific Method, so I should check to see how many missionaries we can build. I switch Moscow to a Christian Monastery. St. Pete switched to a Hindu Monastery. I also switch Barcelona to a Jewish Monastery.

    Madrid can build the Islamic Monastery, but it'll take 10 turns. I don't think we'll ever be able to spread much Islam. Same deal with Confucianism. :shrug: Anyhow, I decide to switch research to Railroads (due in 7) to give time for our Monasteries.

    Rome celebrates "We love the PM day" and, coincidentally, its mine turns into a gold mine. Sweet!

    I also turn the culture slider up to 30% for a couple of turns. We've got some surplus gold and some nasty culture crunch.

    Next a couple of cossacks pillage some "yet to be claimed" former spanish tiles.

    Turn 2

    Bombay begins a courthouse (forgot what it finished). Rome still loves the PM and Wang Xizhi is born in London. Every body Wang Xizhi tonight!

    I'm doing some espionage into the ugly brit. We've got mid-level stackage in Coventry



    Nil defense in Warwick.



    Almost Nil in Canterbury.



    Less in Hastings



    Mini-stack in Nottingham



    Nil in Birmingham



    That leaves London and York in England Proper that I've not yet scouted. Oxford's also on that continent, but it's pretty much in "Doesn't Make a Difference Land".

    Strike that, Oxford's got a mace and a longbow.

     
  7. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Turn 3

    Novogrod: University => Hindu Missionary. Bangalore: Theater => Budhist Monastery. Madras: Librabry => Budhist Missionary. Dehli: Budhist Monastery => Budhist Missionary.

    Rene Descartes born in London. That's two GP in two turns in London. I'm horrible with remembering which buildings/techs give free GP. Anyone know?

    Have we spied Newcastle yet?



    A look at London, lightly defended.



    And finally, York



    Vicky's just begging for a spanking. I'll move our troops back to prime for the war I just know RNGod's going to throw our way! Yay Yipee Skippy!

    Turn 4

    Yaroslavl: Christian Temple=>Ironclad. Barcelona: Jewish Monastery=>Jewish Missionary. Rome: Barracks=>University. St. Pete: Hindu Monastery=>Grocier. Moscow: Christian Monastery=>Grocier.

    Turn 5

    Novgorod: Hindu Missionary=>Hindu Missionary. Delhi: Budhist Missionary=>Budhist Missionary.

    Our sixth university completes in Antium and I immediately switch Moscow to Oxford University. MM for production and it's due in 9.

    Hun comes out of revolution and I begin a theater. This is why we must kill Vicky.



    Say it with me: Kill Vicky.

    I sent a budhist missionary to Calcutta. He's in the city, but his movement is spent. That will be convert #1 for the next player.

    We've got 6 workers on the new continent with nothing to do. I sent them into Barcelona for their own protection. We'll be able to railroad up our empire in a few turns.

    I put a hindu missionary in a galleon near Moscow to infect the new world. That's when I noticed that we've got 2 GP snoozing in Moscow. We could start a golden age, or research some tech. Let's not leave them sitting there.
     
  8. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    I only played 5 for time constraints. Sorry, Fox. These were builder turns. I built no military (as we have enough for three holocausts). I did build several missionaries to sacrifice to RNGod. Yummy.

    We're primed to remove Vicky and Izzy both, and I suggest we do so soon.
     
  9. GreyFox

    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    No problem Rex, great turns, albeit only half, and great write-up!!! And thanks for the details for Vicky's miserable pitiful defense. I'm sure RNGod get the message. ;)

    All hail the RNGod! :worship:

    I am puzzled: so what if SciMeth obsoletes Monastry? I thought it only means that monastry can no longer give +25% reserach, but you should still be able to build missionaries, isn't that so?

    As for free GP: Economy give GM, Music gives GA, Physics give GS, and Fusion gives GE. That's abt it.

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    RNGod's Assignments Thus Far
    - Seek the RNG God: Started 4000BC, Completed 3240BC, 19 turns.
    - 3x1: Learn Wonder-Enabling Tech: Started 3240BC, Completed 2280BC, 24 turns.
    - 4x6: Learn New-Unit Tech: Started 2280BC, Completed 1800BC, 11 turns.
    - 1x5: Get Something for Free: Started 1800BC, Failed (Punishment: 2: Whip all cities).
    - 5x4: Capture City w New Resources: Started 600BC, Completed 25BC, 25 turns.
    - 2x3: Capture or Found 3 more Cities: Started 0AD (or is it 0BC?), Completed 580AD, 24 Turns.
    - 4x4: Capture 3 Cities from 3 Civs: Started 580AD, Failed (Punishment: 5: Declare war on most powerful Civ).
    - 6x1: Capture or Found 3 more Cities: Started 1100AD, Completed 1280AD, 19 turns.
    - 5x5: Capture City with World Wonder or Shrine: Started 1280AD, Completed 1370AD, 8 turns.
    - 4x1: Kill N*5=30 Enemies: Started 1370AD, Completed 1585AD, 30 turns.
    - 3x6: Add 10 XP to a Unit (named: Lucky-17): Started 1590AD, Completed 1740AD, 30 turns.
    - 4x6: Learn New-Unit Tech: Started 1740AD, Completed 1745AD, 1 turn.
    - 3x4: Spread any religion to 3 cities: Started 1745AD, Completed 1795AD, 10 turns.
    - 5x1: Get Something for Free: Started 1795AD, Completed 1824AD, 13 turns.
    - 4x3: Spread any religion to 3 cities: Started 1824AD, Yet to Complete, 3 more cities, 22 turns Remaining.

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    -- omni_paul == UP for Prayers
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    -- mucco == autoskip until computer is healthy again
     
  10. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Re: Monasteries, Fox. After SciMed, you can't build them anymore. (edit) I looked around and we had very few--if any--monasteries. Without Monasteries, you can't build missionaries unless you have the right civics/religion combo. We're not spiritual, so the constant anarchy would suck.

    We now have enough monasteries to prostyltize all religions except (I think) Daoism and Confucianism. That'll get our shrine incomes up.

    Edit 2: It's Islam and Confucianism we can't spread. Taoism is someone else's religion to spread before we capture the holy city.
     
  11. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    OK, now I'm up in a few :) Well 2. I'll play this today.
     
  12. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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  13. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    Got it, playing now.
     
  14. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    The Russian people were in a period of reflection and religious contemplation when Paul the Acquirer took the throne. Always obsessed with the unknowable and unpredictable nature of the universe, his people were fascinated by the effects of spreading religions to new cities, at random of course. Missionaries were being trained and recruited all over the empire, and it wouldn't be long until these people of short attention span looked for new ways to satisfy their love of the random.

    First things first. HOLY FLURKING SHMIDT, we're running -115 gpt @ 70% research!!! I may just slide that back to 50% for -8gpt. I understand why we're running the culture (to avoid the crunch in Old Spain), but let's not bankrupt ourselves!



    Sweet merciful crap do we have a lot of cossacks. Seems a shame not to be at war while these things are still modern.

    Oh by the way, Vicky has signed a protection pact with Izzy. That could make things interesting. Delicate situation if you ask me.



    Turn 290 (1840 AD) - Inherited Turn
    Novgorod finishes: Hindu Missionary
    Madras finishes: Buddhist Missionary
    Calcutta finishes: Granary
    Delhi finishes: Buddhist Missionary
    Barcelona's borders expand
    Barcelona finishes: Jewish Missionary
    Hun's borders expand

    A veritable truckload of missionaries finish IBT. I'm guessing Rex was building not only for the quest, but for some extra culture in Old Spain. Gotcha.

    Judaism has spread: Birmingham (English Empire)

    I didn't do that one so it doesn't count.

    Turn 291 (1842 AD)
    Novgorod begins: Theatre
    Madras begins: Theatre
    Calcutta begins: Theatre
    Delhi begins: University
    Barcelona begins: Theatre
    Judaism has spread: Madrid

    That was me. 1/3.



    Cossack promoted: Medic I
    Cossack promoted: Shock
    Cossack promoted: Combat I
    Cossack promoted: Pinch
    Cannon promoted: Combat I
    Buddhism has spread: Calcutta

    Me too. 2/3.



    Rostov finishes: Observatory
    Madras finishes: Theatre

    Turn 292 (1844 AD)
    Rostov begins: Theatre
    Madras begins: Cannon
    Golden Age begins



    I remember that Rex said I could start a GA with our 2 GP's in Moscow. Well this way it end to coincide with the end of my turnset. Yes, get that people, when I step down, our golden age ends. How appropriate (not).

    Tech learned: Railroad



    I been workin' on the railroad... sing it with me... all the random day.

    St. Petersburg finishes: Grocer
    Novgorod finishes: Theatre
    Rostov finishes: Theatre
    Bangalore grows: 12
    Bangalore finishes: Buddhist Monastery
    Madras grows: 12
    Antony van Leeuwenhoek (Great Scientist) born in Yaroslavl'
    Bombay grows: 12
    Barcelona finishes: Theatre
    Confucianism has spread: Chartres (French Empire)

    Love to take credit for that, but wasn't me. Or as Bart would say, I didn't do it. <hysterical laughter>

    Turn 293 (1846 AD)
    Research begun: Combustion
    St. Petersburg begins: Theatre
    Novgorod begins: The Statue of Liberty
    Rostov begins: Grocer
    Bangalore begins: University
    Barcelona begins: Courthouse
    Hinduism has spread: Norwich (English Empire)

    Hey Norwich... do you, ah, Hindu?



    HINDUUUUUUU-HU!

    Yippee!! RNGod appeased! Time for a brief ROLLING INTERLUDE!

    BRIEF ROLLING INTERLUDE:

    I consult the mystical naughty dice of Rex's wife's dirty friend (when will we see a photo, Rex?).

    Die 1: 6
    Die 2: 1

    6 * 1 = 6! (Not again!)

    Capture or found 3 more cities. Sigh. If I must. Let's walk the diplomatic tightrope and invade Spain.

    In fact, on closer inspection, Izzy only has 3 cities left. How convenient. Eliminate her, and Vicky's protection pact disappears. Sounds like a plan.



    Cossack promoted: Pinch
    Cossack promoted: Pinch
    Cossack promoted: Pinch
    Cossack promoted: Pinch
    Pikeman promoted: Combat I
    Cossack promoted: Combat II

    I also add Mr van Leeuwenhoek to Moscow as a superscientist.

    St. Petersburg finishes: Theatre
    Bombay finishes: Courthouse
    Madrid finishes: Library
     
  15. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    Turn 294 (1848 AD)

    Lookie what the barbies are gifting us:



    I wander a pike up to have a look see.

    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon
    Bombay begins: Barracks
    Madrid begins: Jewish Temple
    Hinduism has spread: Hun

    WAR TIME.





    Cossack defeats (12.96/18): English Longbowman
    Captured Leeds (Victoria)



    Oops. Sorry Vicky. Declared war on me huh? Pay the price, biatch. 1/3.

    Razed Leeds
    Leeds lost

    Here's an interesting side effect to the cancellation of open borders that came with Vicky's declaration.



    You guard that lake, boys. Guard it good.

    Yaroslavl' finishes: Ironclad
    Calcutta finishes: Theatre
    Bombay's borders expand
    Horse Archer defeats (3.84/6): English Longbowman
    Pikeman defeats (3.48/6): Barbarian Longbowman

    Barbs have longbows now. Might just upgrade some of our homeland security forces (we have mostly archers and warriors defending our cities!!).

    Turn 295 (1850 AD)
    Yaroslavl' begins: Frigate
    Calcutta begins: Cannon
    Madras finishes: Cannon

    Delhi finishes: University
    Antium finishes: Observatory
    Rome's borders expand
    Bombay finishes: Barracks

    Turn 296 (1852 AD)
    Madras begins: Cannon
    Delhi begins: Cannon
    Antium begins: Frigate
    Bombay begins: Cannon
    Cossack promoted: Combat I
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I
    Galleon defeats (4.00/4): Spanish Caravel

    The best reply to war Izzy seems to be able to muster is a stray caravel near Rome. How sad.

    St. Petersburg finishes: Cannon
    Hun finishes: Theatre

    Turn 297 (1854 AD)
    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon
    Hun begins: Library
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I

    I do a little Saville bombarding in preparation of taking the city. Vicky has mustered nothing to back up her declaration of war.

    Moscow finishes: Oxford University
    Rostov finishes: Grocer
    Calcutta grows: 9
    Delhi finishes: Cannon

    Turn 298 (1856 AD)
    Rostov begins: Globe Theatre
    Delhi begins: Cannon
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I
    Cossack defeats (15.30/18): English Longbowman
    Horse Archer defeats (3.66/6): English Catapult
    Hinduism has spread: Norwich (English Empire)
    Hinduism has spread: Norwich
    Captured Norwich (Victoria)

    Norwich falls. 2/3



    Cossack loses to: Spanish Pikeman (0.24/6) <--- 89% +
    Cossack defeats (12.24/18): Spanish Pikeman
    Cossack defeats (9.90/18): Spanish Longbowman
    Cossack defeats (9.90/18): Spanish Longbowman
    Cossack defeats (12.96/18): Spanish Longbowman
    Cossack defeats (12.60/18): Spanish Maceman
    Cossack defeats (8.64/18): Spanish Crossbowman
    Cossack defeats (16.02/18): Spanish Catapult
    Cossack defeats (18.00/18): Spanish Catapult
    Maceman defeats (7.28/8): Spanish Pikeman
    Judaism has spread: Seville (Spanish Empire)
    Confucianism has spread: Seville (Spanish Empire)
    Judaism has spread: Seville
    Confucianism has spread: Seville
    Captured Seville (Isabella)

    Seville falls. 3/3. Oops, that was quicker than I intended.



    RNGod Appeased. Time for another....

    BRIEF ROLLING INTERLUDE.

    Or should that be inter-nude considering the online aspect and the nature of these dice?

    Die 1: 4
    Die 2: 3

    4 * 3 = 12! Oh God why. Spread Religion again. Sigh, if I must. Actually screw it, the next player can do that, I'm continuing the war :).

    Tech learned: Combustion



    We can burn stuff.

    Moscow finishes: Grocer
    Rostov grows: 14
    Madras finishes: Cannon
    Yaroslavl' finishes: Frigate
    Antium finishes: Frigate

    Turn 299 (1858 AD)
    Research begun: Corporation
    Moscow begins: Colosseum
    Madras begins: Cannon
    Yaroslavl' begins: Frigate
    Antium begins: Frigate
    Cossack promoted: Medic I
    Cossack promoted: Shock
    Cossack promoted: Sentry
    Cossack promoted: Combat I
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I

    St. Petersburg finishes: Cannon
    Bombay finishes: Cannon
    Barcelona finishes: Courthouse
    Golden Age ends

    Turn 300 (1860 AD)
    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon
    Bombay begins: Cannon
    Barcelona begins: Barracks
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I

    Frigate defeats (5.92/8): Spanish Caravel
    Rifleman defeats (14.00/14): Barbarian Longbowman
    Captured Mauryan (Barbarian)
    Cannon promoted: Barrage I

    Took the barb city in our north.



    So I did a little stack healing and positioning. Vicky is yet to show her troops at all. War Weariness is a biatch because of Spain. We may wish to kill her quickly. Interestingly, Nappy can be persuaded to invade Vicky if we want to play the role of firestarter.



    Would improve our relationship with the Little Man and keep the Big Girl off our back while we finish Pouty Pants. I'll leave that open for discussion and the next player can do it or not.
     
  16. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    And the all important...
     
  17. GreyFox

    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    I say bring the shortie to war, easier to backstab him that way ... :evil: :satan:

    Paul, you could at least build some missionaries ... :)

    Actually, any lawyers around? I am wondering if "Spread any religion to 3 cities" should be interpreted as one single religion or can be different religions. :crazyeye:

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    RNGod's Assignments Thus Far
    - Seek the RNG God: Started 4000BC, Completed 3240BC, 19 turns.
    - 3x1: Learn Wonder-Enabling Tech: Started 3240BC, Completed 2280BC, 24 turns.
    - 4x6: Learn New-Unit Tech: Started 2280BC, Completed 1800BC, 11 turns.
    - 1x5: Get Something for Free: Started 1800BC, Failed (Punishment: 2: Whip all cities).
    - 5x4: Capture City w New Resources: Started 600BC, Completed 25BC, 25 turns.
    - 2x3: Capture or Found 3 more Cities: Started 0AD (or is it 0BC?), Completed 580AD, 24 Turns.
    - 4x4: Capture 3 Cities from 3 Civs: Started 580AD, Failed (Punishment: 5: Declare war on most powerful Civ).
    - 6x1: Capture or Found 3 more Cities: Started 1100AD, Completed 1280AD, 19 turns.
    - 5x5: Capture City with World Wonder or Shrine: Started 1280AD, Completed 1370AD, 8 turns.
    - 4x1: Kill N*5=30 Enemies: Started 1370AD, Completed 1585AD, 30 turns.
    - 3x6: Add 10 XP to a Unit (named: Lucky-17): Started 1590AD, Completed 1740AD, 30 turns.
    - 4x6: Learn New-Unit Tech: Started 1740AD, Completed 1745AD, 1 turn.
    - 3x4: Spread any religion to 3 cities: Started 1745AD, Completed 1795AD, 10 turns.
    - 5x1: Get Something for Free: Started 1795AD, Completed 1824AD, 13 turns.
    - 4x3: Spread any religion to 3 cities: Started 1824AD, Completed 1846AD, 11 turns.
    - 6x1: Capture or Found 3 more Cities: Started 1846AD, Completed 1856AD, 5 turns.
    - 4x3: Spread any religion to 3 cities: Started 1856AD, Yet to Complete, 3 more cities, 28 turns Remaining.

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  18. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    :lol: I didn't even think of that. Spread ANY religion to 3 cities. Could be interpreted either way I suppose... well the turn limit for that challenge isn't over, so the next player could choose to backtrack to that and call my subsequent 2 rolls void. Fox, care to provide an official ruling as variant master?
     
  19. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Regarding the ruling, Fox, I interpreted it as "infect any three cities with a religion they didn't previously have". It's your SG, though, your jurisdiction.

    In any event, if the rule says it must be one religion, I think that should be a "next time" (which is now) addendum and we should move on in Paul's current RNG inspired direction.

    My two shillings.
     
  20. GreyFox

    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    Nah, we will just proceed. Why take the fun away? :)

    @Rex: what the hell are you lurking in the here! Go finish up Fox-03! :lol:

    EDIT: Opps, spoke too soon :crazyeye: ... you have already finish fox-03 ... :p
     

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