Freedom of debate

[Samson]

I think it was Stellar Blade which was accused of having an unrealistic sexualized body "that could only be imagined by someone who has never seen a real woman" for the heroine, before the studio revealed that said unrealistic body was actually an exact replica of the real-life model from 3D capture.

From a quick google I am not convinced claims of hypersexulisation are unwarranted. There is more to sexulisation than vital statistics.

The question is where is the free speech issue here?

• One issue is if people should be able to criticize such hypersexulisation. Criminalizing this would be an imposition on free speech, right?
• Another issue is if the state should criminalize such games. This would be an imposition on free speech, right?
• Another issue is if third parties should be able to block the . The example that is particularly relevant now is the visa/steam/itch thing. In general I think criminalizing companies as well as indaviduals that do this would be an imposition on free speech. It is a bit different when the company is as structurally important as visa, but that is more a problem with the power we give visa than how they use it.

 

[Akka]

From a quick google I am not convinced claims of hypersexulisation are unwarranted.

Oh, certainly not.
I mean, I'm a Genshin Impact player, I'm pretty aware of the extreme fanservice we can see in games.
I just found the anecdote amusing.

The question is where is the free speech issue here?

None. The guy made his claim (as is his right), and was ridiculed for it (as is the right of the other party). Again, it's just a funny anecdote that what Amadeus said made me think about.

If there were an actual debate, it'd rather be about how social pressure influence creators, but that's less about free speech and more about artistic creativity related with commercial aspects - which is somewhat related, but still very distinct, from the free speech issue.

 

[Ordnael]

Off topic?

Well @GenMarshall wrote about the right "banging the “video games cause violence” drum" and I was instantly reminded of the left chastising game developers for making pixels feminine.
But from the backlash I understand the topic is not proper for the easily offended and pudics among us...so I will drop it!

 

[Angst]

If you don't follow gaming news blogs you might be inclined to say that.
Look at Japanese, Korean, Chinese designed games and compare their feminine designed with western and you'll get a better picture of what i mean with uglifying.
You don't even have to go past facial design.
Now go check for playable obese men pixels.

this is an impression one gets if one is in certain grifter mills online.

stellar blade is actually an interesting case irt this because the article that made the rounds as western devs being out of touch acknowledged the concerns being called out in the very next sentence (that didn't go through the grift cycle). the article's concern wasn't that she was pretty, it was that she was pointlessly so.

Well @GenMarshall wrote about the right "banging the “video games cause violence” drum" and I was instantly reminded of the left chastising game developers for making pixels feminine.
But from the backlash I understand the topic is not proper for the easily offended and pudics among us...so I will drop it!

the stereotype of the left doing this is vastly overblown. most feminists are sex positive

y'all need to fix your youtube algorithm

 

[Manfred Belheim]

If you don't follow gaming news blogs you might be inclined to say that.
Look at Japanese, Korean, Chinese designed games and compare their feminine designed with western and you'll get a better picture of what i mean with uglifying.

Well I don't know about "blogs", but I know what you're referring to. It's usually that they've scanned some actress/model's face and then the in-game version looks less attractive than the real woman. But typically there's nothing obviously wrong or different. They haven't added warts or layers of fat or anything, they're just usually pictured pulling a weird and unnatural expression or something. So I put that down to bad modellers/animators.

I don't think the Japanese game comparison is like for like as they usually go with some hyper-cartoony anime-style, whereas the Western games are usually going for something more realistic, which is why they're scanning faces in the first place.

 

[JollyRoger]

A Tennessee man who’d been jailed for posting a meme on a Facebook thread about the shooting of Charlie Kirk was freed Wednesday, after the 32nd District Attorney’s Office suddenly dropped all charges.

Larry Bushart, 61, had been jailed since Sept. 21 for the post, which quoted President Donald Trump telling supporters “we have to get over it” in response to a shooting at a high school in Perry, Iowa, in 2024.

“This seems relevant today,” Bushart wrote atop the meme. He then posted it to a Perry County, Tennessee, Facebook thread whose participants were organizing a vigil for Kirk, a right-wing influencer who was fatally shot at a college event in September.

Noting the similarity in names between Perry, Iowa, and Tennessee’s Perry County, members of the group reported Bushart to authorities for threatening the local high school.

Perry County Sheriff Nick Weems agreed with their assessment.

“This has everything to do with a guy coming onto a Perry County [Facebook] page posting this picture leading people in our community to believe that there was a hypothetical Perry County High School shooting that caused fear in our community — and we done something about it,” Weems told Nashville’s NewsChannel 5.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tennessee-drops-charges-against-man-164532352.html

Guess they didn't get over it

 

[danjuno]

Trump and co normalized political violence, not that their hypocrisy is surprising.