dude killed his king for doing the exact same thing Cersei just did
oxymoron
yes obviously but the point is that everything that the Manderlys did in the books has been done by somebody else in the show
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Ehm, Cercei is not related to any king, so why exactly is she queen now? "Cercei of the House Lannister", the non-ruling dynasty 
Reward for burning every other noble in the city?
Aren't the people of KL supposed to hate her?
Anyway, the Tommen part was good. The rest were not good at all imo. Particularly the warp speed, and Arya.
And now my watch has ended
Reward for burning every other noble in the city?Aren't the people of KL supposed to hate her?
Anyway, the Tommen part was good. The rest were not good at all imo. Particularly the warp speed, and Arya.
And now my watch has ended
BirraImperial
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I guess Cersei is queen because she's the Queen Mother and there's pretty much no one left to challenge her claim. It's too early to tell how the people of King's Landing would take it, plus this isn't a freaking democracy, the people just obey.
I never understood the whole "teleporter" critique...There's no way to tell how long has time passed between one scene or the other. There's no way to tell if one particular scene happened after or before the previous one or next one we see...I guess book readers want thousands of hours of useless travel scenes...This is a TV show, they don't have the luxury of time or the budget to put every single thing from the books in the show or to have a character travel for an entire season to a certain destination...It just doesn't work that way...
Anyway, there was a lot of fan service on this last episode. I don't know if I'm reading too many spoilers or if the show just turned rather predictable, which isn't a bad thing necessarily...Great episode. My only complaint would be that we didn't get to see the White Walkers marching south the Wall, but I guess it would be on next season...
I never understood the whole "teleporter" critique...There's no way to tell how long has time passed between one scene or the other. There's no way to tell if one particular scene happened after or before the previous one or next one we see...I guess book readers want thousands of hours of useless travel scenes...This is a TV show, they don't have the luxury of time or the budget to put every single thing from the books in the show or to have a character travel for an entire season to a certain destination...It just doesn't work that way...
Anyway, there was a lot of fan service on this last episode. I don't know if I'm reading too many spoilers or if the show just turned rather predictable, which isn't a bad thing necessarily...Great episode. My only complaint would be that we didn't get to see the White Walkers marching south the Wall, but I guess it would be on next season...
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I thought the episode was absolutely incredible.
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Episode hit all the right notes for me. Music was outstanding. I've dozed off in past episodes, but the music had me paying attention right from the start this time round and it didn't let up.
I suppose the giant explosion is a bit of a reset. Majority of minor characters and threads are gone now. I'm glad it is so. I feel they're starting with a clean(er) plate going into the final seasons. When the show is focused as it was in this last episode its top notch.
The final scene with the fleet and dragons was tremendous, has me looking forward to the next season.
Right not just the white walkers but Westeros as a whole is ripe for the picking. The North is out. The Reach is out now that she's killed their nobles. Vales out. Can't imagine the Stormlands are behind her with Renly and Stannis having been against the Lannisters. Riverlands are a giant question mark.
What is she queen of at this point ? She needs more undead. Meliesandre to the rescue ?
I wouldn't be shocked if all three dragons died. But they do need to beef up the white walkers/Westeros sides for that to happen. As things stand now, seems a little unbalanced.
Flew right over my head...landed with a thud.
Fan service in the sense that they tied up a lot of loose ends. I don't feel they were tossing me bones vs clearing the table.
I suppose the giant explosion is a bit of a reset. Majority of minor characters and threads are gone now. I'm glad it is so. I feel they're starting with a clean(er) plate going into the final seasons. When the show is focused as it was in this last episode its top notch.
The final scene with the fleet and dragons was tremendous, has me looking forward to the next season.
Right not just the white walkers but Westeros as a whole is ripe for the picking. The North is out. The Reach is out now that she's killed their nobles. Vales out. Can't imagine the Stormlands are behind her with Renly and Stannis having been against the Lannisters. Riverlands are a giant question mark.
What is she queen of at this point ? She needs more undead. Meliesandre to the rescue ?
I wouldn't be shocked if all three dragons died. But they do need to beef up the white walkers/Westeros sides for that to happen. As things stand now, seems a little unbalanced.
Flew right over my head...landed with a thud.
Fan service in the sense that they tied up a lot of loose ends. I don't feel they were tossing me bones vs clearing the table.
sophie
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Zack
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Are you <snip>ing serious?Ehm, Cercei is not related to any king, so why exactly is she queen now? "Cercei of the House Lannister", the non-ruling dynasty
Aren't the people of KL supposed to hate her?
Anyway, the Tommen part was good. The rest were not good at all imo. Particularly the warp speed, and Arya.
And now my watch has ended
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An excellent season, definitely up there with 3 & 4. Not without a couple of flaws - the only two outright bad things were the resolution of Dorne in episode 1 (if they wanted to effectively remove that storyline, why didn't they kill off the sand snakes instead of the actually interesting characters?), and Arya's stupidity in episode 7, followed by the Terminator chase in episode 8. But episode 5, 9 & 10 were absolutely phenomenal, with all other episodes being very good too.
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Agree, excellent season, excellent episode.
The teleportation whining in this thread is silly. Arya teleporting? What about the lords of all the houses in the North teleporting to Winterfell? And Jaime teleporting to King's Landing? Varys teleporting from Dorne to Dany's ship? A lot of time passes between the events we see on screen, and there's no reason to believe that we see the events unfold in exact chronological order.
The teleportation whining in this thread is silly. Arya teleporting? What about the lords of all the houses in the North teleporting to Winterfell? And Jaime teleporting to King's Landing? Varys teleporting from Dorne to Dany's ship? A lot of time passes between the events we see on screen, and there's no reason to believe that we see the events unfold in exact chronological order.
Get rid of the smiley already Camikaze. Your old avatar was perfect.
So, it seems like the early season was dull because they had to stretch too much material into ten episodes... the Varys teleporting thing, imo, is because he was going to have a Dorne scene earlier in the season but the writers decided to save that for the final episode.
Two questions:
Anybody have any predictions for that Red God priestess storyline that went nowhere?
Was Gregor was just torturing the septa? At first I thought she was being raped. The "he is your god now" line seemed kind of suggestive.
So, it seems like the early season was dull because they had to stretch too much material into ten episodes... the Varys teleporting thing, imo, is because he was going to have a Dorne scene earlier in the season but the writers decided to save that for the final episode.
Two questions:
Anybody have any predictions for that Red God priestess storyline that went nowhere?
Was Gregor was just torturing the septa? At first I thought she was being raped. The "he is your god now" line seemed kind of suggestive.
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So, what are we going to call this ?
The Green Divorce ?
Exactly. The series is sometimes gilty of having characters travel at the speed of plot, but people are exaggerating. There could be days or weeks between scenes. We simplydon't know how much time passed between Varys' or Arya's appearances.
The Green Divorce ?
Exactly. The series is sometimes gilty of having characters travel at the speed of plot, but people are exaggerating. There could be days or weeks between scenes. We simplydon't know how much time passed between Varys' or Arya's appearances.
Akka
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Well, that first scene is for sure a way to tie a ton of loose end in one go.
But I'm very very very sad about Margeary
She was one of my favourite character, and I wanted so badly to see her turning the tables on the Septon.
Tommen's fate was pretty well done. Fitting, and at least a moment of dignity for the poor weak and manipulated boy.
Cersei crowned, Queen yeah... but honestly queen of what ? Does her authority actually go farther than the wall of King's Landing ? Most of the realm is in open rebellion (Dorne, the North, the Vale, the Iron Isles, most of the Riverlands in practice), her own powerbase is basically Lannister lands (which has been pretty battered by the War of the Five Kings), a chunk of the Riverlands (which is soon to collapse with the demise of Frey), and the only two regions which aren't rebelling right now (the Reach and the Stormland) have very doubtful loyalty and are liable to rebel very soon.
That's a very, very empty Queen title if I ever saw one.
But I'm very very very sad about Margeary
She was one of my favourite character, and I wanted so badly to see her turning the tables on the Septon.
Tommen's fate was pretty well done. Fitting, and at least a moment of dignity for the poor weak and manipulated boy.
Cersei crowned, Queen yeah... but honestly queen of what ? Does her authority actually go farther than the wall of King's Landing ? Most of the realm is in open rebellion (Dorne, the North, the Vale, the Iron Isles, most of the Riverlands in practice), her own powerbase is basically Lannister lands (which has been pretty battered by the War of the Five Kings), a chunk of the Riverlands (which is soon to collapse with the demise of Frey), and the only two regions which aren't rebelling right now (the Reach and the Stormland) have very doubtful loyalty and are liable to rebel very soon.
That's a very, very empty Queen title if I ever saw one.
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Well, that first scene is for sure a way to tie a ton of loose end in one go.
But I'm very very very sad about Margeary
She was one of my favourite character, and I wanted so badly to see her turning the tables on the Septon.
Tommen's fate was pretty well done. Fitting, and at least a moment of dignity for the poor weak and manipulated boy.
Cersei crowned, Queen yeah... but honestly queen of what ? Does her authority actually go farther than the wall of King's Landing ?
King's Landing and Casterly Rock, and maybe some Baratheon lands from her marriage to Robert after the line died with Shireen and Stannis.
But the Iron Throne is pretty irrelevant at this point.
That's why you don't ally with religious fanatics.
Thorgalaeg
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Nice episode, a bit slow maybe. BTW when did Arya turned from a little girl into a Terminator?
Arya is Zeus to Frey-Lycaon 
I did like the Tommen part. I am not seeing how Cercei pretty much seemed to brush over the fact that Tommen would be alive if she didn't mean to blow everyone to hell just so as to save her own skin. Makes zero sense. I expected her to kill herself, or at least leave the city. "Shame"
I think the Arya story is ludicrous, though.
I did like the Tommen part. I am not seeing how Cercei pretty much seemed to brush over the fact that Tommen would be alive if she didn't mean to blow everyone to hell just so as to save her own skin. Makes zero sense. I expected her to kill herself, or at least leave the city. "Shame"
I think the Arya story is ludicrous, though.
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Amazing. That episode justified the entire season. I thought this season was dreadfully slow, only really liked the door episode, but the last two were epic. Much better than season 5 overall. I was actually shocked by cersies plot and I didn't think thrones could shock me any more. Arya we knew would be coming at some point but I still did an audible eff yeahhhh! When it happened.
I was also sad Margery died I thought she was a great nemesis to cersie. But hey thrones is dramatic in that way just eliminating people.
L+R=J was nicely done even though everyone saw it coming. I still liked it was revealed.
I'm just left wondering who can really oppose danerys? With freys gone essentially will the lanisters hold the river lands alone? They don't have any allies left and it's going to be the entire north, dorne and the reach and danys army vs them. And tywin already hinted that they are broke earlier and they had to borrow a ton of money from high garden, or at least the crown did. So it seems like danys invasion is going to be anti climatic but my guess is she'll fight the night king instead for some better action.
So now what's little fingers place in all this? He basically started the entire mess by ochestrating John Aryns death and bringing the Starks into it. He seemed like the giant mastermind puppet master behind everything but not so much anymore.
Other questions like some one said what's up with the priestess in mereen? And I want to know what talked to varys when his parts burned.
And what about the iron bank? I kind of thought they would come for the lanisters at some point but maybe that ship has sailed.
Isn't there supposed to be some kind of horn that'll bring down the wall when blown? I thought mance found it which probably means the night King has it but there's been no mention. And I'm kind of wondering what theons uncle will do now. Maybe a big naval battle as they cross paths on the narrow sea?
I was also sad Margery died I thought she was a great nemesis to cersie. But hey thrones is dramatic in that way just eliminating people.
L+R=J was nicely done even though everyone saw it coming. I still liked it was revealed.
I'm just left wondering who can really oppose danerys? With freys gone essentially will the lanisters hold the river lands alone? They don't have any allies left and it's going to be the entire north, dorne and the reach and danys army vs them. And tywin already hinted that they are broke earlier and they had to borrow a ton of money from high garden, or at least the crown did. So it seems like danys invasion is going to be anti climatic but my guess is she'll fight the night king instead for some better action.
So now what's little fingers place in all this? He basically started the entire mess by ochestrating John Aryns death and bringing the Starks into it. He seemed like the giant mastermind puppet master behind everything but not so much anymore.
Other questions like some one said what's up with the priestess in mereen? And I want to know what talked to varys when his parts burned.
And what about the iron bank? I kind of thought they would come for the lanisters at some point but maybe that ship has sailed.
Isn't there supposed to be some kind of horn that'll bring down the wall when blown? I thought mance found it which probably means the night King has it but there's been no mention. And I'm kind of wondering what theons uncle will do now. Maybe a big naval battle as they cross paths on the narrow sea?
Thorgalaeg
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I am kind of wondering what the undead Mountain will do with that big nun. Will they have many little giant-nun-undead-warriors?
